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I do think it is an interesting feature but I think they scrapped profile 'friends' for 'following' someone. I wish they had kept 'friends' in the profile as that was useful for anyone to see. It amazes me how much they took out that was working. But all in all, some interesting new features

I reproduced this with a few members and there is a definite pattern but some exceptions showed up. But I have enough to talk with Sean and we may likely end up submitting a support ticket.

It is turned back on... and not to second question. TO ignore threads is a cheap add-on that I've requested a few times.. will keep at it

took a quick look on an android phone but could not find it. We can turn it on in back end if you want. If someone finds it for mobile devices, please post.

And as staff, I'm pretty sure my last edit includes Admin, Concierge, Tech. Which is to say all other groups, including Stewards can be ignored.

Actually, I did not decide that. Everyone posting off topic and a few who said they would stop but didn't all but sealed the fate of this thread... Jeff then opened a new thread. I only directed folks to the new one with a joke about Mutt and Jeff, given Jeff is his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_and_Jeff

Consider this thread as Mutt; The new thread as Jeff: My description of levels/layers of Stuff...

I'm off to have a ultra sound of my stomach My daughter only wants to know if it is a boy or a girl... I told her with all my energy practices, it could be an alien Enjoy your day

Sure.. and friends are not always neutral... I have a friend who is almost never neutral... he is an avid Trump supporter

I go back to what I tell my step-daughter: What exactly is the problem... I'm not seeing it ? (I'm not asking you to repeat it yet again, just it causes me to repeat my perspectve). As someone on the outside, you see a problem with a practice you don't do nor understand. That is fine. I'll let you take up the problem solving as you see best fit to help you. But it doesn't seem to fit well by jumping into every one of JEff's threads (or if anyone constantly jumps into anyone's thread.. .and yes, we get reports on this when it happens to others). It sounds like an issue between you and Jeff but that is my outside perspective. Good Luck with resolving it.

That was kind of an inside comment to a time when two sets of folks were trying to confront Jeff and then a liaison who began to work between the two, passing information , to do what appeared a more coordinated movement of posting... In the past now.

sure... carry on... just more data points.... hopefully they 'spread' a bit more

Bindi and I have talked for years and have been very open about talking issues with each other. If she took some offense to something I said, I apologize. I wasn't posting so much as an admin but a friend. I understand folks just see labels on the forum and hope they can know more gets established between members. I see Bindi year after year issues persisting with this issue that I hope she can work through to let go or channel back to her practice. She joined LU and has been finding ammunition for her cause, including looking at member's list between the two boards. It seems unhealthy to me. As a friend, I hope she would find a way to move past this issue instead of raising it every chance she gets. I've told her privately many things but felt it would be good to post.

Understanding metaphorical use over literalism to help show a point. But if you go back to most every Jeff thread... (not always in GD) , you will find a pattern of some loosely fitting slogans and chants... It is easier to see when not a part of it. There is natural caution on the board.. it is called, "member's posting". And then there is something that appears to come closer to putting a toe in censorship. You're one of the strongest advocates that 'every voice should be heard'... It cuts both ways. SO I agree, caution over censorship. Thanks.

@Jeff: Likely better to reboot a new topic on "Levels of Consciousness" as this has become a cut/paste of past counter comments. I could split stuff off but as many said the OP was not very clear, I think a new one seems best. If folks knew stories of the early stage when Sean and members were throwing energy and magic at each other... you can likely hear Sean laughing right now at the idea of censoring energy healing offers when requests are made. Sean is aware of the past skepticism of groups and/or practices and has never felt the need to step in to comment. So far, his silence speaks. Not sure why folks don't see the pattern in that yet. For the sake of Apech, I've asked Sean once again if he wants him to comment on this repeated skepticism and whether nobody should help newbies asking for help. The email was longer than just that. It's not paranoia of group mentality. It's a data issue. Data speaks patterns. ATIFA shows up , rally after rally, same people with same slogan and same chants... Those are observable facts that might suggest a pattern via data analysis. I tend to view events as data and that includes how people show up at predictable threads. It is observable. Facts over feelings seems a safer route.

80% of world population would be close to 6 billion. 80% of 15 people is 12. The first number would alarm me but not the second. I'm a number counter when it is necessary for my job but I'll evaluate the soundness of numbers when confronted with it. For years now, we keep hearing about the 'newbies' but no one has ever really shown their problem. Sorry, I tend to view issues as , "what is the problem" and let them come forward and share their problem. I've never seen it yet. Everything in life has some who like something and some who don't like something... This is life. I can't say I know of any potentially negative aspects of leaving any practice behind... it would seem in most cases, the practice stops and anything associated with it stops. Often we tell folks to 'stop that practice'... Your rhetorical question is based on something without any experience with another practice, so I fail to see why that question would even arise. Just sounds like a lot of guessing. I think you are connecting dots that are not there... I could go on but there is something you feel a pain about that doesn't really exist. You don't invite newbies to do Light Practices... I've never heard of that except from you. One may try to help someone but only first see if you can help them resolve some issue. Regardless of a practice, that is what folks do. Your anst over Light Practices bears a pain that you can't yet let go of. I just don't know if every thread that Jeff starts is fair to hear these complaints over and over about newbies when nobody has actually shown them to exist in the way you portray it. It is not fair to the threads nor the member on some level... JMO. now, the topic could of been stated more clearly and maybe in a PPD and maybe it could of unfolded differently to share the idea of 'levels of consciousness'. I think it is an interesting topic that was really a 'shout out' but got lost in the anti-movement.

That sounds rather conspiratorially ominous... you'r spending your time counting how many people use either or both websites and this affects you in what way? I'm not really getting the usefulness in it. Folk should practice and pursue what they want. What does it matter what websites they go to for it? (Rhetorical)....

Is that a glass of wine emoticon You truly know me And how do you include those.. handy cut/paste ?

same here... 3 years ago... no mention of LU by Jeff despite our frequent talks. Things seem rather consistent then. And Folks who first find LU are quickly told about TDB... as an option for more online discussions. Seems LU seeks to be more a feeder system to TDB than the other way around

I found sig edit in android as: 1. Menu 3 bars 2. Account 3. Account Settings 4. Settings Area (down arrow to the right) 5. Signature

Wouldn't it be easier to find out if the person in question would be willing to talk in chat or something and explain things? Jeff has worked with him for many years, and myself a few years. Anyone who can 'see' him during that period can attest to his state/level. But maybe coming from him it would be less conjecture ?

mostly curious as to the worldwide spread. It would be easy to say Asian due to population (60%) but curious if that was not the case...

that's right... you're in investments... not a bean counter

roughly by continent ? OR at least most affected continent ?

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenzi The Wenzi (Chinese: 文子; pinyin: Wénzǐ; Wade–Giles: Wen-tzu; literally: "[book of] Master Wen"), or Tongxuan zhenjing (Chinese: 通玄真經; pinyin: Tōngxuán zhēnjīng; Wade–Giles: T'ung-hsuan chen-ching; literally: "Authentic Scripture of Pervading Mystery"), is a controversial Daoist classic allegedly written by a disciple of Laozi. Although generations of Chinese scholars have dismissed the Wenzi as a plagiarism or forgery, in 1973 archeologists excavating a 55 BCE tomb discovered a Wenzi copied on bamboo strips. In 742 CE, Emperor Xuanzong of Tang canonized the Wenzi as a Daoist scripture (along with the Daode jing, Zhuangzi, and Liezi) honorifically called the Tongxuan zhenjing 通玄真經 "Authentic Scripture of Pervading Mystery". The emperor posthumously styled Wenzi as the Tongxuan Zhenren 通玄真人 "Authentic Person of Pervading Mystery". Although the Wenzi has traditionally been considered a Daoist text illustrating Laozi's thinking, it contains elements from Confucianism, Mohism, Legalism, andSchool of Names. The Wenzi represents the "Huang-Lao" philosophy named after the legendary Huangdi 黃帝 "The Yellow Emperor" and Laozi 老子 "Master Lao" (see Peerenboom 1995). The textual format records Laozi answering Wenzi's questions about Daode jing concepts like Wu wei. Besides citing passages from Daoist classics like Zhuangziand Huainanzi, the Wenzi also cites others like the Yijing, Mengzi, Lüshi Chunqiu, and Xiao Jing. Chinaknowledge: http://www.chinaknowledge.de/Literature/Daoists/wenzi.html Contents 1 道原 Daoyuan The origin of the Way 2 精誠 Jingcheng The sincerity of the essence 3 九守 Jiushou The nine observances 4 符言 Fuxin Words from registers 5 道德 Daode The virtue of the Way 6 上德 Shangde The virtue of the ruler 7 微明 Weiming The illumation of the minuscule 8 自然 Ziran Nature 9 下德 Xiade The virtue of the people 10 上仁 Shangren The kindheartedness of the ruler 11 上義 Shangyi The righteousness of the ruler 12 上禮 Shangli The propriety of the ruler Works by Thomas Cleary: Translation by Thomas Cleary Translation by Thomas Cleary Works by Paul van Els: Persuasion through Definition: Argumentative Features of the Ancient Wenzi The Philosophy of the proto-Wenzi The Wenzi: creation and manipulation of a Chinese philosophical text Wenzi Source Text: Chinese Text Project - Does not have all the chapters above. Wenzi Chapters - This has all the chapters above and is the source for Taoist Text translation.