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Certainly there is truth to what you are saying, I won't argue that or say you are wrong. However, when it comes to ancient Christianity, there is a little more to it than that. Indeed women were drawn to Christianity in it's early days. Remember, that the world in general, society as a whole, was very sexist towards women 2000 years ago. We know many early Christian texts were cut or banned from the modern Bible. Some texts were omitted because they encouraged celebacy too heavily, more so than the books that were chosen for the modern bible. Celebacy was deemed bad because in order to ensure the noble class continued to procreate the Roman government imposed strict laws that women must marry noble men who want them and must bear children. Teachings which inspired women to become celibate too strongly, and empowered women to be bound to God rather than a slave to a noble Roman man, were banned. Some texts, while they never said one must be celibate, encouraged it along with, and as an enhancement, to feminism and the empowerment of women. This would not be tolerated by those in power within the church and government. So some biblical scholars and historians believe that women came to Christianity at the time, because compared to their other options, it very much empowered them. Either that, or the women realized that compared to God the men of their time were simply AFCs and God was the ultimate AMOG.

Underwater cities off Cuba part of lost Atlantis Skepticism and Science are defeated Videos with images of the underwater cities discovered off Cuba, consisting of Pyramids, Cubic structures, Domes, Metallic structures, and Roads, 2000 feet under the sea- Part 2- The World's Mysterious Places- Edgar Cayce on Atlantis Mysterious Places: Atlantis (Morgana's Observatory) Article about Plato's description The Cycle of Time "Brushing Off the Enshrouding Dust": The Ancient Atlantic Continent http://www.pureinsight.org/node/5437 The Ancient Hebrew Kabbalistic and Magic Alphabets Kabbalah Tarot and Hebrew Alphabet are both 22 parts + the name of god YHVH. Greek and even English could be more distantly related, english alphabet is 26 parts. Tarot is where heiryoglyphs come from Tarot - Crystalinks 40,000 year old footprints in mexico cause evolutionists to scramble to make desperate and irrational exuses. Mexican Footprints lol! "evolutionists unhappy with results!" Notice how they claim, "it must be either a whole magnitude wrong and they must be way older, or they're not footprints at all then probably, or this or that excuse, but it can't be what the dating methods indicated!" Lol @ scrambling to make excuses and reinterpret things http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0..._footprints.asp There are over 100 submarine plateaus and ridges scattered throughout the oceans, dotted with islands, and many may be submerged continental fragments that have not been completely ‘oceanized’, as suggested by ‘anomalously’ thick crust and finds of ‘impossibly’ ancient continental rocks. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/eastern_island/easter04.htm More potential lost continents- Ice Age civilizations destroyed, as well as massive extinctions of animal species, such as the Wooly Mamoth, Wooly Rhino, and Sabretooth Tiger- Earth changes, we know the exact dates The Official Graham Hancock Website: Underworld NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Sea Level Rise, After the Ice Melted and Today Geotimes - June 2002 - Glacial Mystery ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET KEY TO SUDDEN SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE PAST http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/...0203288330.html The reality is that sea levels rose quite rapidly. Ice age map, but they forgot Atlantis, anyways we see most of the world was Frozen, and Africa was covered in lakes and water prior to 10,500 BC. In any case most the the habitable lands centered at the equator prior t0 10,500BC are now under water- Not the best place to be running around throwing spears at animals- Glaciers before 10.500 BC Glaciers after 10,500 BC they melted and the earth's tilt axis shifted The "Bullard" fit should be called the "Bullshit" fit Sunken continents vs. continental drift Map There is simply no fit. They don't even fit together and its a big lie! We also see that this area was once the edge of a continent now lost in the Atlantic Ocean. Obviously a continent existed between north and south america in the Atlantic Ocean, Plate tectonics is nonsense What kind of catacalysm hit the globe so hard that we forgot about a whole continent full of pyramids, civilized and indeginous cultures?

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The History channel has been "infiltrated?" Sounds like you have some conspiracies of your own.

Ancient technology http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3747926086715809142# If you carefully read the descriptions we have about the lost Ark of the Covenenant, it becomes evident that it is a giant electric capacitor. The capacitor from the Great Pyramid. This is where the reputation came from, many people who got too close got zapped by a "lightning bolt from God". Think about it, why would the Pharoah be so insistent on catching Moses and the slaves leaving Egypt? Because when they were freed they went on a sort of "freedom rampage" and took many things, one of which was the Ark. In modern times the Ark has been traced to a location in Ethiopia. It is considered a religious treasure and modern scientists have not been allowed to see it- Graham Hancock - Raider of the Lost Ark | Free Travel Videos - Watch Travel Videos Online | Veoh Did the ancients have electricity?

Swastika is of special significance on 2 continents So we see that in both the spiritual traditions of the Native American Hopi people and the spiritual traditions in India, China and Tibet, the Swastika is funadamental. This is a strong indication that both these people's spiritual traditions are somehow connected and related to each other. Yet how could that be if they are on opposite sides of the world and according to scientific theories on how civlization progressed they shouldn't be related to each other? Even the language of the Tibetan people has relations to the language of the Hopi people. And then, I believe even the Dalai Lama himself, the foremost expert on Tibetan spiritual traditions, has admitted the Tibetan People and Hopi people are closely connected and their traditions are related somehow. The most reasonable determination is that the Hopi and Tibetan traditions share a common ancestor tradition that existed in a lost pre-historic culture, and when it was destroyed, that tradition came to influence the Hopi in America, and came to influence the Asians in Asia. The Hopi Prophecy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srYoI3LOzCY Hopi Petroglyphs Hopi Prophecy http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2000/11/21/6096 .html Hopi Prophecies - Prophecy Rock - Crystalinks Here's a really interesting article about the Grand Canyon finds- The Grand Canyon Finds Some articles about practitioners who knew the Hopi prophecies now practice in Falun Dafa. Further Insight into the Relationship between The Prophecies of the Hopi Indians and Our Falun Dafa | Pureinsight A Visit to the Hopi Nation | Pureinsight The Falun YouTube - Falun dafa Exercise : An Introduction The Falun Emblem Falun Dafa - The Falun Emblem Some more about the Swastika in general Hindu Culture - Omkar and Swastika Falun Dafa Clearwisdom.net Falun Dafa Clearwisdom.net http://modernconstellations.com/allerleiumasvast.html Buddha- In 12,000 years it is expected languages will evolve away from each other and change. However, in language certain words are quite fundamental to ancient people and change less. 2 very important words are "sun" and "moon". "Dawa" is moon in Tibet, sun in Hopi. Sun and Moon and very fundamental words to ancient people. Tibeten Word for Moon, "Dawa" Dawa (Tibet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hopi word for Sun "Taawa" Hopi Words

If I get a chance I may look into that more.... There may be technology today that can connect 2 crystals, or vibrations, to each other wirelessly. Perhaps something exists today that is at least something like Atlantean technology would have been like. A small effect from crystals, with uses today, is the piezio-electric phenomena. Changing electricity to vibration, or vibration to electricity. Like, how a watch tells time for instance with the help of a quartz crystal.

That's true... There is nothing necessarily or inherently wrong with modifying something for the masses, as long as you don't claim that it's the original real thing just like the monks in Tibet do it. It's the same with anything, there's Tai Chi, and then there's TAI CHI. There's fa jing, and then there's FA JING.

Not only did the Pyramids use the power of the Sun for energy, but most likely also the power of the earth's bio-field. The method of receiving wireless power from the Pyramids, would involve another receiving crystal with a similar vibrarional frequency, tuned to the Pyramids.

Here is some info I found that is supposed to be about Tummo, although the method is not shown- Here is a video demonstrating a Tibetan Yoga method, I want to get this method, though I doubt I am going to find it advertised in my local newspaper.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APttKuYgwUA

No doubt there are just as many, and probably more, frauds in Asia. It is likely in some Asian countries they never have to deal with things like "testing" and "proof". Herbers Benson, who has been studying this for several decades, had to go to Tibet to find it. He could find no westerners who could actually do it. From what I have read, Tibetan Buddhists and Indian Sihkks were the main groups he found some genuine Yogis in with abilities he could scientifically confirm. He found no westerners with the same abilities. I have heard of Wim Hof. It is no surprise that he has become well known and famous, and holds many world records, if he can do what he says he can do and really do what he demonstrates. I am unclear on exactly what his training is and where he got it. Wiki doesn't say much- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof Of course Westerners are capable of doing anything Asians can do. What makes me "allergic" though, is when so many people, just any old person, claim(s) to do "Tummo". It seems everyone does Tummo these days, and I find that hard to believe. Well, maybe someone somewhere got the real Buddhist lineage and brought it back to the west. And maybe some people have tried to develop their own "tummo" or copy it, or have a basic understanding of it. But do you really have Tummo? I doubt it. They would be famous like Wim Hof.

Lol, my brother has some Chinese friends who he went to school with. They all say Qi Gong is fake, superstition, and quackery. They say there are no monasteries or hermits in the mountians in China, that is all fantasy. Qi Gong is just what westerners imagine Chinese people do, but actually Chinese people know it's all made up and it's the westerners who want it to be real. Chinese people would like to see Qi Gong and superstition disappear. Or so I'm told.

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One of the scientists who has conducted the most research on Tummo, is Dr. Herbert Benson. He says that he has never met a westerner who claimed to be able to do Tummo, who wasn't a fraud. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/04.18/09-tummo.html

If a particular source is not to someone's liking, or to my own liking for that matter, what I must do is find as much independent corroboration as possible.

It has no bearing on my theory either way. However, it does have bearing on your theory. You see, you are trying to view the Hopi tradition through the "lenses" of what scientific theories you believe. You got very stuck on the 70,000 year old date, and insisted the Hopi tradition was referring to this date. It is not. This is called shoe-horning or force-fitting. Trying to force the Hopi tradition to fit with how you think history was in the past. So now you "adjust" the date, but you are still force fitting a date! It's just a new date instead of the old one. So are you going to really adjust your date to 125,000 years ago?

I picked the lines which were the foundation of your theory. I felt no need to respond beyond that, because the rest was just elaboration of your elaborate African Shaman theory. You don't have any proof of an oral tradition connecting African Shamans, to Indo Europeans, to Native Americans, therefore, it is an unecessary and superfluous explanation. If you ask any archaeologist or historian, they will tell you there are many problems with oral tradition and it is indeed notoriously unreliable if you take it too literally. Your opinion of what is reasonable or outlandish, is simply just your own opinion. It has little to do with what follows consistent logic. The Gap is too large. You went from Indo-European language, which does not pre-date 12,000 years ago, all the way to connecting it to Shamans 70,000 years ago. Trying to make oral traditions, or any kind of spiritual tradition, fit into scientific theories, or taking them as literal history, is not going to lead to any correct conclusions. If you insist that spiritual traditions fit with whatever is the popular scientific theory, you will miss the point. It is not simple at all, you have to be very creative and believe oral traditions lasted over 50,000 years, and still would exist in a recognizable form that you could draw tangible parallels and connections to each other. That's reaching. It doesn't go back far enough to have much bearing on, or disprove, either of our theories. My theory goes back far enough that it can explain the Indo European connections. However, when you connect Indo Europeans to African Shamans, that is grasping too far and drawing too many unwarranted conclusions. Asia can include India. I specified what I meant in the OP. Indo Europeans could have possibly got it from a pre-historic cultutre( Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu, etc.) which existed for a long time before 12,000 years ago, but going back 70,000 years is unwarranted. I have not said every single image of the Swastika had to have a common source, though I am sure many do. Depends on the context, and other factors. There is no need because you can only go as far back as you can trace. The jump from 12,000 years to connecting it to 70,000 leaves too much of a gap with nothing to connect it. You seem very sure you know everything that was going on and everything that is "possible" 12,000 years ago, so long ago. The Hopi position? I think you are confusing your own position for theirs. The Hopi tradition says nothing about Humans coming from Africa! Only you have interpeted it that way, through IMO, huge leaps of faith and gaps in logic. The only one re-interpeting anything here is you. You are free to continue to challenge my theories with even more outlandish theories of your own.

More- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12300228

From the History Channel Program, Ancient Aliens. This episode focuses on Underwater Worlds, and Underwater Monuments- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1k1uw--gY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbu_ZHKuaCY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSkUbKAKCGA

Quite often your comments indicate that once you started watching you indeed did watch until the end, like this thread for example- http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/19425-space-bound/page__p__273887__fromsearch__1entry273887

Thanks for the advice.

Attempting to put a date of 50,000 BC or even further back to all of this is just not following Occam's Razor. There is also a huge Gap between this theorized "African orgin" of the Swastika, the supposed Indo-Eurpopean culture, and the existence of the Native American traditions in North America. The "African Shamanic" explanation is far too elaborate and has too many gaps. There is still no need to go beyond 12,000 years ago to explain the curious facts examined here.

You've watched so many videos that I have posted. You even watched Rap videos I posted and you claim you don't like Rap.

I did give an explanation of what is on the video. Plus, sometimes you just have to click to really find out. You can do whatever you want.