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But surely there is some common "Basic Protection" Mantra or something He can say ? Not everything requires Initiation & Fu. What about simply making an offering,Incense,fruit,food,prayer and asking the spirit to vacate. Very rarely do things get out of hand if performed this way & the spirit usually will do as told. If you think the spirit is powerful and will cause trouble, then call ucchusma or green tara mantra 108x first and threaten the spirit. Nothing will dare challenge you when reciting these spell and will run away. These prayer were given by the,Buddah, Dieties and Devas to help all mankind under any conditions. Please share some Mantra.

There is a chinese Website where You can Download Shen Zhigangs Books for free in RAR/PDF Format. The website also have alot of discussion about wang lipings seminars & what is being taught to the students. If somebody here is willing to translate page by page i will post the links. One guy promised to translate & share here, But when i passed on the links he disappeared. Any Takers ? Regards,

Never Argue With A Fool Because Those Watching May Not Tell The Difference. Case Closed.

I lived all over asia for more then 17 Years & believe me friend,I know. What people claim to have & what they can really do however is a totally different story. Yours is no different. Sounds like you were tricked by some of these teachers & fooled into believing that you now know. "Believe Those Who Seek The Truth But Doubt Those Who Find It." I think that sums it up pretty well.

This Myth has been around for Years. Not many people have Yin Eyes,But thousands proclaim too have this Skill. I have heard stories of people being able to see purple lights coming out of there ass,seeing energy,mist, ghost. Mostly its all lies & fantasy driven delusions combined with a good dose of wishful thinking. Seeing ghost & aura is a high level skill that nobody here has even come close to achieving and probably never will. The same old story always arises..............can you handle it,you will see ghost forever & not be able to close your eye blah blah blah. What a joke to even speak on such matters

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Dynamic tension combined with breathe retention is the real key here (know your limits). Follow this simple analogy & you will gain superhuman strength and open most major channels. In a nutshell this is the essence of level 2a,2b mopai.

So what are the 8 Mantras ?

Mjjbecker,Where do You get that Information From ? Jim Along with Another Chinese/Indonesian student (Who obviously I cannot Name Here) are indeed John Changs Higest Ranking Students. Maybe You ought to do a little more research next time before posting Such Comments. No Offence.

Genmaicha, i never claimed to be an authority on anything,just telling things how they are. And yes the truth often hurts. As for the american guy,you should know who im talking about. I wont be commenting on this matter any further. Regards,

Im amazaed at the fact that people are still wanting to find out about John Chang. Its been stated thousands of times that the School is Closed For Westerners. Whats worse some American have decided to pass out Half Pie "Incomplete" Instruction & Comedic Videos, Yet doesnt even know what level He's at to Begin with ! But people are Foolish & Have the Audacity To continue Showing Up at Shifus Private Home Begging for Instruction, Somehow Thinking They will be the ones who will be Accepted. You watch too much Television.Its not a Personal choice But an Order. If anybody is thinking of Going There better save Your Money & Much Disappointment by following the Advice that has been Posted Continuously for almost 5 years Now. Many have left with Tears in Their eye but They should have listened in the First Place. Move on & stop Riding a Dead Horse. Leave this Man & His Family in Peace for Gods Sakes. As for the American.........Your lucky You are still Alive & Even Crazier To think You will get away with Your Actions Unpunished. Regards,

Good Job Edward, Anything to stop this criminal David Verdesi & the blind mice that choose to follow him so quickly. However i guess its some people Karma to have him as their Master/Teacher.Everybody gets the Teacher they deserve i feel. Fools rush in is another way to put it. Good Luck everybody & Hope your journey for the truth will end soon. Regards,

Ha Ha Ha, How could Sean ever show his face in Public again. Rofl

I appreciate the Coments, Regards,

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Well this was only posted because its stated this man was one of Davids Main Teachers & was also posted on Davids forum & website as being such. Right ? Source: http://ariom.ru/forum/t14360.html Several of davids students even paid this teacher large amounts of cash when they visited thailand recently. Right Sean . Care to elaborate some more on this trip ? However i have been told by a personal student that Master Luo is now undergoing rehabilitation for his chronic abuse of Alcohol & Gambling addiciton. Apart from that, Why on earth would such a high level master be dealing with Steroids & have to attend a course in such a commercial college in the first place. Doesnt make any sense. Regards,

Some Immortal Ha ! Got his training at the china research cancer clinic ha ha ha. Oops btw,Who said anything about it being bad ???

Hi, You cannot study any other system with Mo-Pai becasue it will mess up your chi. Sean you should know this yourself being an Ex student of Kostas. Anybody who says otherwise is crazy. As for John chang going to china for davids grading,seems pretty far fetched to me and will have a definate answer in a few days. Regards,

Its real.

Dunbar, Fist of all let Me make clear that I have no intention in studying with David,His Over Priced Masters,Or his Under-Achieving students,All of whom i might like to add can do nothing. Secondly,After reading your posts its very clear you think Yourself as some kind of Authority on matters regarding David & the Mopai,When in reality you are a nobody. If its such old news ( i posted it around 18 months ago when nobody, youself included even had a clue who Qiu Fuyi was !) then you should have posted it yourself. But dont sit back & try to criticize people for handing out information which some are charging Thousands for. I know this information is appreciated by many ,So if you dont like it just skip this thread. End of discussion & Good luck in your Seach fo the Truth. Regards.

Dunbar, You forgot to mention Davids other teacher Qiu Fu Yi(Who was proven a Fraud & admitted to trickery on national Television). The contact information posted Here was correct and Verified by many Private Messages, E-mails,Etc. Regards,

Andreas's only intention of introducing David was to "Cleverly" Lead Students away from his own Teacher. Who in Reality was rather Fed Up with Foreign Strangers appearing at His Front Door. Looks like it Worked & Proved Davids students are not as Bright as Some people are lead to believe. As for David & the Wang Liping Book,This means nothing. Kosta too wrote a book & we all know what happen to Him. Was eventually kicked out of the Pai & Later ended up with Cancer and is currently under going Extreme Sessions of Chemo-Therapy. Shifu Wang has more then enough students who are far more Authorized to write a book on His Behalf then a 12 month Rookie student cashing in on commercialization. Regards,

Truly this has gotten beyond ridiculous. The best one ever told was the so called "Liberation Of The Rabbits Karma" Not satisfied with Blasting these poor Animals with his own (Or The Bulls) Chi, The Immortal Shifu Jiang later Skinned The rabbits & they were promptly served up as "Chop Suey" For all Students to Feast Upon like Savages. "The purpose being................. That of Spiritual Enlightenment & The Cleansing of Negative Karma created by these "Evil Rabbits" in previous Lifetimes." Loooool ,Maybe Sean & David should try Their Hand at Writing Science Fiction Novels instead.

Why should it take loads of theory & weeks to explain something that could really be told in 5 minutes. All this theory,Pen & paper correspondence is absolute nonsense & just another way to draw the entire thing out. Regards,