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Sounds a bit like "Love for sale".

For anyone interested. A discourse on similarities between I Ching and Sefir Yetzerah. http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/nume...rah-Chinese.htm Footpad Sorry folks; Its http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/nume...rah-Chinese.htm Footpad

Be honest about what and who I am. Be open minded to new ideas or to interpretation of old ideas. Be willing to do whatever is necessary to live the tao. Footpad

Hi; I have been studying various forms of metaphysical stuff for 16 years. I came across your forum and decided to look further into it. I look forward to sharing messages with you folks and, hopefully, learning something in the process. Thanks Footpad

It bears a strong resemblance to the "creation diagram" found in the sefer yetzerah (Book of Creation). Footpad

Hey lerner; I found this on the net sometime back and, while I don't understand all of it, it appears to date back to the supposed begining of interest in the tao. I like it as a simple statement of enlightenment. It is listed as "Untitled document" on the web. "When your discernment (Ming) penetrates the four quarters Are you capable of not knowing anything? Lao Zi, Chapter Twenty CLZ" "Gazing at the muddy water's surface, I was deceived and missed the deeper clarity. Zhuang Zi, Chapter Twenty" "Taoist enlightenment is a "return to the original light (ming)" (LZ52) "This light is subtle (xuan)": "without an analytic understanding of how one is proceeding, one is yet able to engage the people and things of the world with an intimacy that is accurate and effective. Embracing all things, good and bad, "is called following the light (ming)". (LZ27)" "The Taoist seeks not a salvation of the soul from a mundane realm, but a redemption of her perception, a recall of the miraculous quality of world, a reawakening to the astonishment of simply being here." Regards Footpad

Hello Fatherpaul; I don't pretend to know if there is room in the tao for conflict or not but I'm pretty sure there is plenty of room for conflict in humans, especially the one called me. Footpad

Hi sean; I found this on the internet "Reflections of a taoist" Meditation, key to other dimensions?: Could Meditation hold the key to other dimensions? Some scientist think so, it seems physics and mathematics can only allow us a glimpse of possibilities of other existing dimensions but impossible to reach them with today's technologies. According to DR Michio Kaku, a professor of nuclear physics, in his years of study of superstring theory and quantum physics, came to the conclusion that if we are to have any hopes in finding ways to enter portals into other dimensions, we would have to seek out knowledge from those in the East, such as Taoist, Buddhist and Yogis! It seems that instead of using metallic machines, we might be able to accomplish this one day using the "mind" via meditation. So meditation shows promise in this area. Check out the book, Hyperspace by Michio Kaku. Birth of the Universe: I sometimes ponder with delight and interest of the similarities between Taoism and Physics, for example: notice the similarities between the big bang theory and the Taoist view of from non-existence comes existence. Also the similarities between the big bang and Lao Tzu saying Tao give's birth to One, One gives birth to Two, Two gives birth to Three, and Three gives birth to the Ten Thousand Things. Tao being Voidness. One being Fullness. Two being Yin Yang. Three being man/earth/heavens (the five elements). Ten Thousand Things being all that exist. (total existence) Now my theory is as follows: Tao being 10 Dimentional Hyperspace (potential) gives birth to One, One being Big Bang gives birth to Two, Two being Positive and Negative "Opposites" gives birth to Three, Three being (Energy) "Gravity" gives birth to Ten Thousand Things, Ten Thousand Things being The Total Universe and/or Universes. I don't know how this fits into your topic but I saw it and was facinated by it. Footpad

Gurdjieff (All and Everything), Buddhism, Native American Shamanism, Kabalah and Taoism. At this point in time I am focusing on Taoism hence my visit to this forum. Footpad

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What Thaddeus said! Welcome KoldNet. I'm new here also. Footpad

Hi Krissy; Welcome to the forum. I'm new too. You might try reading the 5 classics for possible answers to your question. I personally don't have any religious affiliations but I suspect that being open minded and willing to explore new ideas is a key ingredient to living the Tao. You seem to have a fair amount of both of these characteristics. I look forward to learning from you and hope that I am able to make some sort of contribution to your purpose. Footpad

Hi fellow seeker named Rin. I too am new to this forum and I hope to learn something here. Welcome to the forum. Footpad