Procurator

what did your saliva look or felt like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ROOSjmF1Uk&NR=1

witches always want a man to lose his manhood, hence the kind advice above.

oh please Ian call me Pro, dont stand on ceremony. After all i am a pro. Now answers: am I a bad person? But of course. Am I disdainful and hurtful? Towards certain things and people - sure. Am i in pain or angry? No, not at all. Empty my cup? Here is what a patriarch of my Chen lineage used to say: let's spar - if you win I will ask to be your student; if I win - I will pay your hospital bills. Show me tangible results or at least refer to an authority - i will empty my cup. the irony is that i get this grief from a person who first knocks people uncounscious and then cuts them open with sharp implements. Oh the anger, oh the horror! sure i am ignorant. Please provide a reference a quote or tell me which chapter and verse of which edition you are referring to. No i am not. Doing 3 things - 1. study the experience of the others 2. earning karmic benefits by giving advice or by discouraging folks from hurting themselves 3. chatting for the heck of it i am a chatty person if the subject interests me. oh please, of course I have never tried it. How many times did you try drinking gasoline before reaching a conclusion that it might be not that good for you?

on the second or third day of dry-fasting correctly I invariably experience two symptoms: 1. elimination of thirst .2 even a small sip of water causes physical revulsion, sharp pain in the kidneys and nausea. several times in my life i have walked away from a 6 figure salary. Admittedly it is easier for me than for the others since my destiny is money-prone - i can always earn enough for basics without much effort.

whatever buddy, jejune banality works for me too.

Thanks man, will try my damnedest, but here is the deal... You belong to this world. I belong to the other world. What is good and benign in your world is bad in mine. Whole grain bread and water that quenches the thirst are poisons to me, career and wealth is just dust under my feet. Similarly what in my world is a constructive criticizm, good natured fun, friendly advice etc. comes across in your world as negativity, wet blanket, discouragment and such like. Nothing personal we are just from different worlds ok? Dont be sad, and I promise to cheer up too. I will even stop by the book club and leave a comment or two. Lets us all just get along, shall we.

no Sir, it is not for me. No. You smply dont know what are you talking about.

the panels of xperts have not tried most of other exercises in futility either. come on, lets not be negative. could you please define the success of this method? Steve you accused me of misqouting. please kindly notice the word TRUE in my post above. Thank you. and yes. If this is "quigong" learned from some one whose last name is Cohen, the Mass is much better, the singing is quite beautiful, no?

tradition brings positive results, a simple exercise brings negative results. positive - GOOD, negative-BAD.

Very correct. This technique is a good example of ppl not belonging to any true tradition to make up little exercises for themselves. The do it by a simple trick of equaiting the little shreds of true tradition that they see from outside to what they know from ordinary life. Like , oh this people meditate? So they must be thinking. Thinking about what? Must be about a question. What question? Must be "who am i". Ridiculous of course, but.... Other example of equaiting traditional with trivial proferred on this board: bagua = high-school wrestling alchemy = turning yourself into a good person external alchemy=western medicine eating a lemon= immortal foetus and so forth and so on

Anatomy of the Pineal Gland The pineal gland is a small organ shaped like a pine cone (hence its name). It is located on the midline, attached to the posterior end of the roof of the third ventricle in the brain. The pineal varies in size among species; in humans it is roughly 1 cm in length, whereas in dogs it is only about 1 mm long. http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pat...ndo/pineal.html dog's third eye eh?

hmmm i donno know..i am just an old itenerant monk but if we all are up to a little homework, why not? http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=16920 http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/taoism/ and then a little multiple choice test http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~kaplan/eas201/201-09ta.pdf

No. Not the aim. Medicine is concerned with the survival of physical body. Alchemy does not care less about the physical body. Ingestion of an alchemy pill leads to creation of something that may sometime look like a physical body but in fact is its direct opposite. Consider that in chinese alchemy some methods had their aim not to prolong life but to bring on the death of the phisical body - total opposite of western medicine. Western synogists explained such deaths by the stupidity of the alchemists who allegedly did not understand that mercury and lead are poisonous. In reality of course its the scholars like Livia Kohn who dont have a clue.

i share that interest. One point of view that there was none - i.e. the internal and the external were always equally valid and coexsistant. I have been told by a reputable source that there are practitioners of external alchemy in China even now. except there is none beyond both dealing with pills. very direct but it is a very complex issue.

sure you are very welcome to ask any questions. True cultivation means - to follow methods preserved in genuine texts and to achieve tangible results ("powers" as put in the differnt thread).

not that i have requested any clarification but since you asked -no, the statement above makes no sense and it is just as well. however that "The qi used used in the image of the article you've linked to is 气 with a 火 radical inside" is correct, it is also stated in the linked article. like doing jumping jacks or visiting bingo parlors often.yeah whatever.

ahhh hot dogs breathtaking where such nonsense is coming from? no seriously where from?

ah the president was killed by a weirdo then the weirdo was killed by another weirdo and then that other weirdo conveniently dies. happens all the time, no conspiracies here folks.

(shrug) http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu6...r=&ei=UTF-8

that is a tough one. There are not many books that are both easy to read and serious. you guys could read this website for general reference and discuss individual articles one by one. http://www.eng.taoism.org.hk/general-daois...m/pg1-2-1-1.asp This one is informative and lively written (i am not sure 'sup with the crazy price on amazon now) http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Master-Chuang...6376&sr=8-1 this one is considerably more boring but the presentation is simple http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Body-Kristofe...6649&sr=1-1

no, i read academic works not pop history. Wong is a valid practitioner but her attempts at historicity are flawed and often naive. For academic critique of her version of history see this: http://venus.unive.it/dsao/pregadio/articles/notes/wong.html but far it be from me interrupt your learened discussion, mine was just a tangential comment in passim

given that not many people have a clue (or hard data) about "the Daoism of the classical period" and the "Shamanism before that" this statement is not quite meaningful. what is that difference, again? what is the classical period? Also you guys seem to be pretty sure that shamanism was "before". amusing.