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but of course:)) now a question: what is the logic here, from "strawdogs" to "bellows" and to finish with "observing the centre"? and most importanly all of it "non-humane"?

hey i did not know that, much oblige.

the deeper much deeper level of meaning here is that the dogs ARE kings AND the ancestors as totem animals. every sacrifice is an act of renewal, it keeps the Heaven and Earth eternal. so "regard" or "see" is not quite right here.

its 'cause u r ignoring the second half of the phrase, which is a contrast to the first one. the meaning of the entire phrase is that something empty creates something material unlimitedly. in other words you r missing on 3-4 deeper levels of meaning. as to water - yes it is there. the characters signifies empty as in a deep chasm filled with nothing but water.

what did they symbolise?

道Dao 沖is empty 而but 用making 之by it 有of matter is 不盈inexhaustible

in the post right above yours i am making a point about the header of the chapter 3. itch to moderate can be so distractive, cant it?

this paper proves that there is no difference between daoists and legalists. http://etds.lib.ncku.edu.tw/etdservice/download_file?etdun=U0026-2804201014162400&fileName=ncku-99-k1894102-1.pdf 'pacify" 安 was always a military term, translating 安民 as peaceful people is ungrammatical and naife. Subdue is absolutely correct, cant agree w/u more. You have asked whether LZ was a prophet, i said he is a god. A god as in personification of powerful ideas that rule national psyche. That is why Qin Shi Huang-Di or Mao were Daoists. As to his deification he was always a god. The story of his being a humble librarian is what is known as euhemerisation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerus

"The Chinese premodern state was built upon sacrifice," said Plutschow, "and no theory of Chinese statehood could ever be proposed without reference to sacrifice and sacrificial ideology."

whos stopping u?

Ancient Mass Sacrifice, Riches Discovered in China Tomb Kevin Holden Platt in Beijing, China for National Geographic News January 29, 2008 A 2,500-year-old tomb containing nearly four dozen victims of human sacrifice has been excavated in eastern China, yielding a treasure trove of precious artifacts and new insights into ritual customs during the era of Confucius, archaeologists say. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961583/posts

all your base are belong to us.

Tut, tut, my reader, dont worry yr pretty little head about supreme beings, there is none, your big translator is looking out for u, sleep tight, dream about silver bearded kindly taoists and unicorns and how they dance and prance all together on pretty chinese meadows...all is well...all is well...

yes, good collection of original texts, definetely recommended, but if you dont have it yet pick his book on sexual gonfu, its priceless.

this is a good example of intellectual fraud that this "translators" engage in on every step of the way Refrain from artificially exalting capable persons, so that the people shall not strive for fame and credit; 不尚賢，使民不爭 he made up "artificially", and "for fame and credit;" in one line of 7 original words he made up 3 words that are not in the original, 45%. and it all goes downhill from there. the "translators" just make up stuff as they go along.

central to taoism is the idea of rejuvenation so someone who looks much younger than his age is a master oh, it is very simple u just need to follow these 3 easy steps 1. unbundle yrself from "we" 2. explain to yrself what is it YOU r looking for as yr end goal concretly 3. go thru all available teachers and discard obvious frauds, you know, the thunder lamas and web-cam classes 4. then match the rest with yr goal from 2

why dont you just look at his photos? the person who sells teachings on eternal youth looks like a normally aged 50-60 yo chinese male, he is not gray yet but that is a genetic chinese treat. if he cant make himslef look even a bit younger than his biological age what is it people pay him for? this tells you all you need to know both about him and them

i am sure, and it si supported by the entire text of the chapter. i can handle the truth. the new agee fantasists cant.

apparently knowledge of wenyan or the history is not criteria here yes. Stig i have been studying wenyan for 10 years now, trust me, i have checked my characters.

this chapter is about a ruthless frighteningly effective totalitarian state. wei-wu- wei does not mean any of the sunshine and lollypops made up ideas about taoism. It means to cut any action at the root, eliminate the very seed of a possible action against the ruler. you probably heard about the "cultural revolution" 50 years ago and wondered at the irrationality of it. well, now you know why it was done and why china is ruling the world now.

true:)). but my point is that the phrase is wrongfully translated "wei wu wei" does not mean "to act without acting" , so all the nonsensical explanations of that phrase that people derive from this wrong translations are fantasies. 3. Keeping people from rebellion 不尚賢，if the wise are not honored 使民不爭；- then people will not mutiny 不貴難得之貨，if luxuries are not made available 使民不為盜；- then people will not act (WEI) as insurgents 不見可欲，if not shown any desirables 使心不亂。-then the hearts will not rebel 是以聖人之治，That is why when the Superhuman governs them, 虛其心，實其腹，he makes their hearts empty - but stomachs full; 弱其志，強其骨。he makes their will weak - but bodies strong. 常使民無知無欲。If it is so constantly - then people will have no (WU) ideas, no (WU) desires 使夫知者不敢為也。then the men with ideas will not dare to act (WEI) also 為無為，則無不治。 If THEIR action (WEI) is made in- (WU) -active (WEI) then there will be no one(WU) disobedient.

the rest of the chapters also talk about governance- you just dont see it in faulty translations that you r using.