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right, yes, mantis, it is. And with others, too, that I have come across. I just wondered about here, on taobums. Because I have been taught that it is good for the male to balance his energy with the female in this way, and that it helps with other goals.

I remember Spock in Star Trek often was forced to say what a phenomenon was not, because he didnt know what it actually was. Then Kirk would go and make friends with the p henomenon and talk to it, and all would be revealed. Lots of us feel a mutual transmission on this board. Some of us are tuned into the same or a similar frequency, energetically.

What about exchanging energy with someone of the opposite gender, and practising the Big Draw energetically, without physical sex. Where does that fit in? As far as I am aware, it's a good thing, right? Allowed?

I dont drive either. I'm thinking about the France thing, too.

Freeform, yes. I havent read your link yet, but Iwill, cos I like all that stuff. So thankyou for it. I just want to give you my first response before it dissipates, which is actually about the stance we take in relation to our ego. Yes,we can say that intrinsically our egoic stance is in its very nature 'god like' to us, since it dictates to us so much of the time. Or all of the time, perhaps. AND, there is a difference here between the male psyche and the female, in that a women is conditioned to give her power away. It is conditioned as 'feminine' to have a weak egoic stance and to defer to the Patriarch as the One True God. The phrase 'one true god' is of itself a logos oriented phrase, a yang phrase. And so it might be that in what way we play with the intrinsic metaprograms, cannot be an across the board prescription. Ironically it is as children that we have the MOST god like view of ourselves. Primary narcissism, before a solid concept of others exists, we dont actually assume 'one-ness' with the other. We assume they are objects for us to do with as we wish, or else we cry. and screeam. and go red in the face! But yes I take your point utterly about cultivating fluidity, and (to speak dualistically) avoiding rigidity. I agree with satyaghara that playfulness is a terrific way to stay fluid. The best.

Treating every person as the one, true god. Well. I know that there are times when my energy is in all the nice places, that I see the perfection in everyone. But not one person as one true god. just everyone as perfect. a tiny wee point, a semantical one, I dont care for the emphatic nature of 'the one, true god'. too exclusive. and whilst it is a useful exercise to do as you suggest, freeform, it also - ironically - objectifies the Other as something to further your spiritual discipline with, something to look at through a different lense than your unconscious usual one. No escape.

What effect does it have on us, that the vast majority of people we meet and know have zero interest or understanding of what is so central to us. They may like knowing someone who is 'into weird stuff', thay may appreciate your ambience and your wisdom in general. But not really want to walk alongside you or go where you go. I am speaking of myself here, and wondering what effect it has on me. I dont know if it compounds a tendency already present in me, to be isolated and apart. And at the same time to feel a kinship, with the people who share what I share, but who arent, in the main, physically close to me. One has to be able to tolerate the position of being the one somewhat outside the norm. Partly I wonder if one of the benefits of this way , is that it suits people who are more comfortable outside of the norm. Yep, I also tried to share a lot and Spread the News, also tried to feed mice. Didnt find any hungry ones. They nibbled and moved on.

what about if people have been asleep for years? or awake for years? how should they answer the number question? measuring hours of alertness? or the plod of the calendar.

paypal is a wonderful thing. I guess most people here have it, too. Luckily we're your friends so you'll tell us for free how we can make money by doing nothing. right?

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I just want to post a heads up to those of you intrigued by various types of enlightenment, ( that's all of us, right? ) - there's a great online book by Daniel Ingram in Ian's thread of that name, which really does give a great lowdown on the various Enlightenments, in some detail. It's the clearest thing I've read on the topic. I'm not going to link it here, because I'm hoping the discussion - if there is to be any - will kick off in Ian's thread, so it is all in one place. I hope some of you will read it and comment. I'm reading it currently, myself. It's easy to read too. Have fun!

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I'm reading this book online, it's very fascinating in delineating in detail, different enlightenment experiences. Ian, I am also reading the Magus of Strovolus thanks to you. You have a knack of finding good books, methinks. thankyou. I'm bumping this up to encourage readership of your link and hopefully talk about it and our experiences a little. I'll post again when I have read more.

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One of the things I found helpful that Mantak Chia articulated in a seminar I went that was led by him was about the 'sick chi' that we release, releasing, dispersing, becoming cleansed and going back to the earth to do something useful. I think and feel that it is worthwhile to hold the intent that your sick chi be recycled positively, and become cleansed as it leaves and disperses. Not just to spew it out. It is also ok to send it into walls and floors, ( wipe your hands against walls, allow the chi to exit via your palms, likewise with your feet on the floor) with the intention it will transform and ultimately become clean again. It is our responsibility to do this, as it is our responsibility to not drop litter or sneeze on food! I suggest you take control over venting your stale chi, and structure venting/ dispersal time into your day, so as to get into a disciplined relationship with the process. It sounds as though at the moment you are watching the process rather than directing it. have you tried a more interventional appraoch?

Did you see that documentary about CC? I saw it on the BBC. you might find it interesting. Here it is on youtube. Tales from the Jungle

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Yoda, did you check out the password protected video, and if so.................... what did you make of it? (so to speak.)