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interesting! How have you used this in your life.. what happened? Would you mind sharing?

Hi flowinghands. teach us something for free about thunder magic.

Yes.. the thing is with magic, is that it can get a bit like a legal document, with the amount of provisos one has to build in.. there are always unforseeable possibilities that magic will find.. like the guy whose house burned down in order to give him the money he needed.. even saying 'if it be for the good of all' doesnt exclude massive inconvenenience which, like a good taoist story, may look disastrous in the short term even if it pans out for the ultimate good.

I havent watched this video, I started then I got distracted and stopped. There is no interest so far in this, from the rest of the board... there is resistance to mormons ... is this because of the Osmonds and Mormons going door to door too evangelically and squeaky cleanily.. or is it because of the many wife thing, all of them with long hair , no make up, and drab clothes.. and, I hear, often chosen from books when they are 12 years old.. what is good about mormonism?

that's interesting. Maybe it is nutritional deficiency that makes us crave things that dont do us any good.

I love when you come into threads, taoiseasy. Thankyou. You dont sound at all prude, whatsoever, you sound like truth.

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That was a very interesting podcast/talk. The ectopic pregnancy being the result of confliciting messages was illuminating.

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Bubbles! Get on the naughty step at once! No milk,no biscuits!

Thats a good question. I have never known anyone who was unable to attract someone, no. Not ever... I have known people very out of shape who have found partners, people very thin and neurotic who have found partners, people who are to me, deeply tedious who have found partners. To be honest, my viewpoint is that people want to be together. Not to say that people dont have dry spells where the pool looks devoid of possibilities. Currently I know one of a woman who is having a long dry spell. She ticks the boxes, on the outside, she's slim, presentable, attractive. but in her head she has a strong script of what her next partner must be like.. and she hasnt found him yet.. I see her script as limiting her a good deal, and blocking her ability to meet anyone of an unexpected nature. If she doesnt ease up on her list of wants, I think she may stay solo. A member of family suffered quite a lot of facial paralysis and brain damage at an early age, it affected her looks radically, her mood and personality, we were all pretty concerned at how life would pan out for her. She fell in love and got married and had children. I dont mean to minimise the pain of being single, and how painful it must be to feel unable to find a partner. I'm sorry if I appear to be doing that. I am sorry if I appear glib or priveleged about relationships, that must be kind of irritating..

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well, in taoism of course we have organ spirits and shen. the hun and the po. what a dynamic duo.

I like Mystery. I was really sorry when he cracked up so badly when his real love relationship went wrong. I guess he has recovered now.. I havent looked at what he has been doing since neil strauss wrote his first book. I guess I took from that , that it can throw you in precociously if you follow advice on beginning stages, guidance which can only peter out as a relationship evolves and you simply are out of your depth emotionally.. not truly equipped to deal with what is going on. Of course, maybe none of us are ever truly equipped to deal with what is going on.. Its like someone telling you how to start ski -ing and then leaving you on the slopes.. but yeh I dont mean to be black and white about it, like 'dont take advice'.. just really playing up the need for salt. And good old spontaneity and authenticity.

You are so right. I am immensely grateful for that. What I wonder is wether people manifest in their own practice exactly what they believe.. so that the beliefs limit the practice.

Lets all drop the oppressions and seperatist stuff as much as possible, we'll all feel so much lighter, at least, I know I will. We're all in this together, to imagine otherwise is adding to the divisiveness we are being sold by the media onslaught. If men are becoming insecure, the same medicine is needed for them as for women... have an inner locus of evaluation and cultivate unconditional positive regard for yourself and others. Quoting Carl Rogers, here.

lots of theories!

How do you know it doesnt look like anything?

I would so agree with this, and I would only add the obvious fact that this article forgets to mention : men give bad dating advice too. Taking any advice without a grain of salt is naieve consumerism. Nobody can accurately advise you how to be, when you are alone with someone that you like, in the conversation you are having with them, at that time, in the context of your relationship. If they try to, it is all heavily in need of Salt. Unless you want to be a forumulaic consumerist.