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Ha! And in so doing the paralysed thought processes and rigid perspective d i s s o l v e.

How is circle jerk avoided?

Mark Griffin, Michael Lomax, Ken Cohen.

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ha, Owledge. I'm sure my mind is easily fooled. Interested indeed to know : how are you sure yours isnt?! (The spiral is an experience, btw.)

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ah! So we need to do LESS.

Yes, I have had different types of teachers, those who accumulate and store, and those who dont, and say you dont need to do so. Ime the 'accumulate and store' types are considerably more yang and considerably more troubled by ego distortions and samasaric oconsiderations.. holding a huge amount of energy in a 'storing' way is a phenomenal amount for the system to carry and results in excess yang effects. I'm not clear in which energetic way the Bodhisvatta would "take on'... it sounds as though it is not in an 'accumulate and store' kind of way, but more of a 'passing through' kind of way..

me too. I like hearing Jetsun.

My hair is straight I want it to be curly I'm going to get it permed I just had my hair permed now I have curly hair I didnt need to get that perm cos my hair is curly, I can see it is.

That circle.. is actually a spiral.

No, I dont get catastrophe dreams at all. I had some precognitve dreams many years ago just before there were riots where I lived, that were of that nature. It was interesting at the time to see the emotional and physical environment around me manifest what I had dreamed, even to the extent that as I was walking down the street past all the boarded up shop windows that had been looted, there was a never before nor since seen flash flood.. a torrential downpour at great speed which the london drains couldnt deal with and suddenly the streets were filled with rivers of water that was flooding the shops that remained open, so that they too were forced to close. It was a dreamlike reality that I had already dreamed. But since then, no.

My suggestion is that members read VMarco's posts as if they are containing something helpful. I would love to see some responses that are making the effort to see what is constructive in VMarco's stance. There is no need to take what is said personally. It is an opportunity to learn something, as everything is. We arent perfect here, are we? We all know there are 'circle jerks' and reactivity and we all have limited understanding. We know this. We can wonder what grain of truth VMarco's posts might be showing us. It might be more helpful to look for the grain of truth than to repudiate.

Karma does not equate to qi precisely. Ancestral qi is not the same as bodily qi. Shen issues arent equal to the kind of qi a practictioner would be working with. I have felt my karma being looked at and I have felt my qi being looked at. It is very different. It's a dimensional difference. Like the difference between a film and a photograph, or a waterlilly and a sequoia! It's a good question, Jetsun. BTW I know of several people who have taken on serious illnesses of others unintentionally by using advanced energy techniques with people that they did not realise were ill. And then they were unable to remove the disease that they had ingested, and had to go seek help.I dont believe Tonglen type practises are the same kind of energy transfer. Different.

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OK, thanks, VMarco.

Hello Marblehead. thanks for responding. I'm unsure about this issue of the internet and our reality, and the separating out of the two. Because spending time on the internet is a significant part of our everyday reality, and a way of conversing about things that matter to us, which we may not be be able to do with those that are physically present in our corporeal reality. I think the division of reality into compartments might be an illlusion of convenience that conspires against integrity.

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So if I look for compassion in the posts in this thread, will I see compassion in action? If we looked at each individual post, would we see a different facet of compassion in each statement? Is compassion operative in any sense as a receptive perception,as well as a projective intent or effect of inner light?

Afaik when you have liposuction, if you eat too much ice cream etc again afterwards, the stuff you had sucked out will return. Same with this kind of healing.