TaoIsTruth

Thank you very much, what you share is truly pearls of wisdom...

I'm interested about your telekinesis experience... Do you mind sharing ? I'm not trying to be an investigator or something like that... honestly, I'm just curious, it's my only motivation

Wow what an experience

, You said that you saw spirits, I assume you have your third eyes opened. If I am right, how do you open them ? Did you do it yourself through cultivation or receive help from an energy master ? Are they opened permanently ? , Do you have a personal experience of astral projection ? If you don't mind will you share ?

, Thanks for your insights, really appreciate Does Yin spirit that is projected behave like in astral projection, in which the person is able to control or is it something that happen autonomous ?

, what do you think about the golden light being that gave Master John Chang a hard time ? Is someone who has developed his yang spirit able to transform himself into a light sphere according to your knowledge of taoist alchemy ? Or perhaps it's another neikung technology...

@tongkosong, thank you for your kind reply... If you don't mind, I have this question of mine that purely flows out from my own curiosity... If the being of light was a real event, what about the message delivered by the so called "mysterious" person and a mysterious challenger that offered Master Chang's senior student to come and study with him ? Did both events really take place ? How did the mysterious challenger offer Chang's senior student ? did he appear in a dream, used a written message, or came in physical person ? I'm really sorry, I hope I'm not going too far...

Hi @thunderindo & @tongkosong. IMHO, you have tried to clarify the matter and explained things with your best effort in a well respected way. Would you clarify the two rumors that have been around. The first has been around since 2006. Did this event really ever take place according to your knowledge of Master John Chang ? If this is true, did this "being of golden light sphere" live somwhere in the same town of Indonesia too ? The second is the statement from Kosta's book : Did this statement really come from Master John Chang himself, or just a madeup by Kosta ? I truly appreciate and acknowledge that it's your right to answer or not to answer. However I think it's good if we could just verify several rumors that has been around by receiving the clarifications from reliable sources like both of you

The real event of police trying to catch a person who used "ilmu kebal". According to the tv news presenter, the police has shot around 107 bullets (perhaps rubber bullets) and still unable to catch the guy. But there are events when the guy avoided the attack, they were when the attackers throw stones or woods at him. The police eventually catch him when they found out that he wore a magical ring. A sniper then shot the guy's finger and finish the drama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm8IrXF4P9Q

Btw according to my limited knowledge of native Indonesian schools... The real power lies behind the spiritual practices rather than from the qi/prana cultivation. Indonesian spiritual practices that involve spirits are real and can be dangerous. They can perform features like what advanced qi practitioners do, like telekinetics etc. And can be accomplished in an extremely very short period of time when compared to qi cultivation, because they involve spirits. The characteristics are : - Performing initiation rituals. like bathing with flowered water, fasting, etc - Giving offerings to spirits. - Using empowered items, like rings, charms, etc that are linked to the power of spirits. - The power from the same source can be implemented to several people or items, but it can also crash when it is implemented into "too many users". - Faith is emphasized ( you must believe for these things to really reveal their power, in qi cultivating practices you don't have to believe you just need to be neutral and open mind). But there are also limitations like : - Your opponents must be in certain states of mind (full of hatred /anger). - The aura of the surroundings. - The belief system of opponents and people around. - There are also types of power that can only operate in certain geographic areas only. - You can't overuse it, ( I think qi is also like this, just the way to replenish it is different) However this is my own personal opinion. You should validate yourself. But for qi cultivation to generate power I think the fact is it's a long and hard journey and the methods are very specific (It's almost impossible to figure out by yourself in our limited lifespans, as it is built from generation to generation and using the previous generation knowledge as the foundation, just like our current science and technology). But I'll just stick to it, because in my opinion dealing with spirits you don't really know can be dangerous

Thank you for your explanation, appreciate it

@puretruth01, thank you for your kind answers. I have another questions if you don't mind. 1. Do you mean wuji meditation like standing still and focusing mind at ldt ? 2. What is the sign that the battery is there ? According to my experience, focusing mind at ldt with a sincere attitude (this is very important,imho) while loosening other parts of the body (but still focus at ldt), will generate a feeling of moving (doing repetitive exercises), radiating intentions like calmness, peaceful, and love from the ldt (mostly I read love radiates from mdt not from ldt, but I think I can feel it from ldt but the taste is a bit different). Random thoughts started to disappear but somehow to maintain this state for a long time without disconnections in the middle requires true dedication imho. I think I'm not able to do it for a long period of time without some disconnections in the middle. 3. Is my experience a sign that I have made that connection of ldt with heart-mind ?

Thanks for your reply, glad to hear he's still doing the research... But what do you think personally about this kind of research ? will scientific community eventually admit the existence of qi ?

Hi @puretruth01, sorry to interrupt you in the middle of your conversation. I'm interested in your explanations. I have some questions in mind if you don't mind to answer. 1. The battery means Ldt ? 2. How do you create it ? 3. How to increase the signal of dantien ? 4. You mention about increasing the tian ? is it the tian of dantian that means field ? 5. What is the difference of increasing the tian with increasing the signal of the dan ? 6. When the mind fuses with ldt, does it feel like our awareness is put at the ldt, so that we move, feel, and radiate intentions from the ldt ? Sorry for the many questions

, I've read Yan Xin's books about researches of qigong in China. I'm amazed by the research results. But I have a disturbing question in mind, If those were real, why we don't hear any further research about qigong lately performed by chinese researchers ? I'm trying to be open minded anyway... Do you have any latest updates about master Yan Xin activities ? I've once read a skeptic's blog saying that perhaps the government found out his fraudulent claims so that he was no longer allowed to operate his training widely. It's a speculative opinion however, but quite interesting But from my own experience, this thing is real, even though i'm not able to cut through inside a banana or generating electric power:) but the heat, the switching of state of mind they are very obvious.

Hi Therion, May I know these people that have passed the 4th level are training in what lineage ? What system do they use, Taoist, Budhist, Indian, etc ?

Thank you MjjBecker and Kostas...

Yeah, that helps a bit Btw, When was the picture of Kostas and JC in Greece taken ?

Really looking forward to read Kosta's answer...

Yes.. Taoist Energy Practice Rocks...

I do reverse breathing exercise. Most of the time when doing this practice I can feel the heat sensation inside the stomach and around dantien area. But there are times when the heat isn't inside but the heat which I believe to be the Yang Qi goes out around my body and I can even feel it on my hands. I can even switch it on / off. When the stomach expands I can sense it on my both hands, when the stomach contracts the qi stops. I don't want this to happen, because my goal is to charge the dantien, I don't want the qi to disperse into air. Can someone please guide me on condensing the qi, so that it doesn't go out to the air... The posture of my exercise is shown below, except I sit in full lotus position with left leg on the inside. Thanks...

Friend, Informer, and Rainbow Vein, thanks for your advice. Btw I don't have a teacher to tell my progress. I'm learning most of them from many sources like taoist breathing, meditations and my own explorations. My only alert system that I set is I won't force things to work. I need to be patient, letting go, and try again Btw Friend, you suggest me to learn to sink qi. Does the Zhan Zhuang exercise serve this purpose? I found the link on youtube : What surprises me is when I watched this movie I realized that I actually discovered such exercise on my own. There were times after breathing exercise the front of my body generated heat,from chest to stomach. It feels like ball of heat, so I stand intuitively in Zhan Zhuang position, and it feels good, calm, and I can sense the heat clearer. These things happened recently. So if this is good to sink qi, I plan to do it regularly. My question is must I do the Zhan Zhuang after or before breathing exercise?

I have more questions than answers.. All I know from experience, By looking at the Dantien at the start phase of breathing exercise, help me focus and activate the qi. Btw, there are days when I lose the feeling of qi, on that day all I do is testing several times, If I have no qi feeling at all, I'll skip the practice to the next day. Usually when I test several times at different times in a day, I usually successfully sense the qi again, that's when I resume the breathing exercise. I don't know why the qi sometimes disappear I just learn to let go...

When I exhale, I feel warm sensation goes down to the lower stomach. There are two ways the sensation goes down: 1. Front lower stomach. This happens when I inhale and concentrate on the front body (below solar plexus), it feels like pulling up some muscles around lower belly. 2. Inside stomach. This happens when I inhale and concentrate inside the body, It feels like I pull up muscles inside the lower belly around the spine. Perhaps I don't explain it very clear, because I don't have good knowledge in body anatomy. And what I do is partly intuitive. When I put my right palm facing on the lower abdomen, I can feel the energy (softly) pushing my hand during exhale and pulling it during inhale, the power gets bigger when I concentrate. Btw How do I know that the dantien is already full and ready to be condensed ?

Thank you for your full of insight answer... I'm checking the link you gave me... Please move the thread to the most appropriate place Btw just let me know where the thread is moved so that I'll be able to go there... Btw how important is movement in meditation ? I know there are 4 factors that play great roles in qi manipulation : Mind Breath Eyes Movement But what role does movement play in qi manipulation ? Does it help in directing qi ? Must I direct qi manually or just let it flows ? Because All I do right now is still breathing exercise and still meditation.