Trip

Keith, Well yes, Chia's practices work for me. But so do Michael's, and B.K. Frantzis's, and the ones described in Warriors of Stillness. I'm not trying to hawk or defend Chia in particular. But the more vehement attacks seem mostly to reflect the attacker's biases, needs, issues, disappointments, etc. Why not find our way and respect the ground we walked over? If we take a wrong turn, blame the navigator and not the star we followed. Trip

Harry, Out of curiosity, why did you stop your Healing Tao practices? IMO a great deal of the criticism directed at Chia around here is a little shrill. Keith (Trunk) and I have jousted a little over this. I have total respect for Michael Winn, but don't see how he can blame the death of that single practitioner in Tibet on dangerous practices taught by Chia, yet believe "the 150,000 who died in Asia had a date with destiny." I hope I stay cool with Plato when I say he was rumour-mongering in raincoat and shades about "the fact [that Chia] stole his "cosmic healing" book from another author." We've all got our axes. Close as the tongue is to the upper lip in an expression of mad delight, I am faithful to you. Until one fine day... Personally, I believe a Chia in the hand is worth more than a Bodri in the bush. But that could change. Chia travels to Germany regularly; if you want to find out about the Healing Tao today, why don't you attend a retreat and simply see how you like the practices? That's all that matters. Trip

Hi Cat, Your question keeps getting sandwiched between my exchanges with Keith, so I feel compelled to answer. I don't have Plato's love of dressing up in raincoats and dark glasses, so I ordered my Aneros via the Internet and it still hasn't come. I'd say Mathew Qi's earlier recommendation is about as good and trustworthy as it gets, but there's also a forum on the Aneros site where you can ask more questions. What kind of reaction are you looking for? There may be a fleeting, odd look in the fella's eyes when he unwraps your gift, but I doubt he'll throw it on the floor and stomp on it. Hope this helps, Trip

Hi Keith, I'm really not your adversary, although I appreciate that you feel that way. We've had productive conversations in the past and I'm sure we will again. Take good care, Trip

Hi Keith, Here's how you started your first post: "I think it would be clear to anyone who's watched Plato's posts for a while, that..." This is nothing but a backward way of saying, 'tsk, tsk, it hasn't been clear to someone that...' And who else would you be referring to but me? Or was it only coincidence that a post extolling Plato's R&D virtues, addressed "To whom it may concern" and authored by you, ended up in the thread? Come on! Why not just address me directly? And get your facts right before making any high-handed "it would be clears." I'm sorry for playing with you. Yes, I was being a little mean. But only a little. And you deserved it. But sorry. Trip

Cool! I can have multiple orgasms too, and they do make you clear. It's not about the money, it's just about being upfront. And I do appreciate you were just that. Put your GD affiliate's link on the board and I'll pop the damn thing up my butt and the 4.90 in your pocket.

Okay Plato, I get it that you aren't going to tell us which products or people or sites you have a financial interest in, and that each time you're asked you'll counter with some irrelevant put-down. If I seem like an unsatisfied wife, it's only because I seem to be getting fucked , but in your case can't really tell. 8) Trip

Hi Keith, I wonder if you could tell me what it says in parenthesis under my first post to Plato? Thanks, Trip

Plato, Like I wrote Max, until his post I was ignorant that separate financial links even existed. But since the link you gave Tumoessence looked exactly like what Max called a link with a "financial connection to the product," I assumed you had given Tumoessence a link with a financial connection to the product. My mistake: I was looking at the page the link went to, not its underlying code. But which link you gave is still a side issue. You've got to, I believe, disclose your financial interest when hawking a product or person or site. You call this a caveat; I'd call it a courtesy, or even a virtue. And since I have absolutely no mental blocks about money and am not remotely small, let's continue. I vaguely remember your once writing that you went to Columbia School of Journalism. So what about what's happening to Armstrong Williams: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/national...html?oref=login http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/p...olitics/2982711 Now I don't have much use for Williams, and I mean nothing personal by dragging you, Plato, through this analogy (got that Keith?). But Williams has had to admit that he blurred his role as an independent commentator (that would be you, Plato, as our R&D maven) and a paid promoter (that would be any profit you might make by hawking a person or product or site, and I'm not saying that's happened). I think Williams was absolutely stand-up when he refused to hide behind the "caveat" that he's not a "journalist" but a "commentator." And it doesn't matter one damn whether or not he actually believes in what he's being paid to promote. Of course he believes. He wouldn't be remotely credible if he didn't. People feel abused when stuff like this happens. The issue isn't making money, it's whether you disclose you're (also) doing it. Or so me thinks.

To finish answering your question, Max: I think that if you're hawking a person or site, and you have a financial interest in that person or site, you gotta say so, whichever link you give. But in Tumoessence's case he specifially gave the "financial" link.

Well I didn't know you could specify a special "financial connection" link. So that means on 6 January Plato gave the "financial connection" link in response to Tumoessence's question about Glenn Morris and Unna Tantra.

But Plato, isn't it important to tell people you have a financial connection to a product when you recommend it? I mean, being an affiliate means you get 10%, right? http://www.malegspot.com/affoverview.php Trip (Who has productively followed many of your recommendations in the past. Although it's kind of funny, the last time I actually posted to you was about five years ago, when I was admiring your suggestion to use a small vibrator stuck up the butt to massage your prostate.)