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Well i can see that minkus really took over. but anyways Lets get back to that taichi neijia shit were all here for. Now between every movement of taichi(left,right up,down, in,out) there is a momment of wuji(stillness) where the yi collects and fa jin can be maximized. Now what every body calls kong jin and what these masters display on youtube isnt suppose to be used like that it has another purpose. There is no such thing as an attack its all a delusion you only attack when you see or sense an opening. So theres really only saa(single angled attack) and abd(attack by drawing) but there really is only abd because saa is based on lack of awareness which is based off of abd whether its intentional or not. Standing meditation builds your awareness of the energy fields around you. When 2 internal practitioners meet to fight. They base their decision whether to attack or not by seeing weakness' openings in their awareness thru their energy fields. Your not projecting at your attacker and actually expecting it to hurt him thats whats yuan qi is for. Yuan qi when tapped into will get your grand circulation going and others as well. Not only will it start to circulate but it will be receiving the correct signal of pure original life energy then the real alchemy begins. To put it bluntly if you tap into the original source that manifested you in the first place then all the energy circulations that was need to make you and still sustains you will start flowing again and then the real spiritual evolution begins. Now in lesser alchemy you try to remove enough blockages to get your mco and grand circulation going. Then after that is accomplished you try to restore your yuan chi. Its much smarter just to restore your yuan qi in the first place. Now your yuan qi is in your ldt when tap into that original signal of what your suppose to be it reaffirms your destiny and your will for the ldt is the center of your will. Spiritual path of taichi goes straight for the yuan qi. Taichi helps with this but just breathing chi down to the lower dantian and conserving your jing doesnt create a cauldron moving meditation does.

My point exactly. Minkus to me thru his actions does not have clear rational thinking i said that jing alchemy was low minkus then says that i learned from a jing master?!?!?!!?!?! I would like to continue posting about the topic but people who like minkus whu uses ttb as his own personal toliet to air out his issues prevents that from happening. So minkus if you dont mind pick up where i left off and tell them all about your personal understanding of yuan qi as internal power and how to attain it and how that compares to regular internal power.

This is not even middle school level debate. You show me thru my posts where i prompted someone to buy something to give credence to your claims. This is called basing an argument on the facts. The only thing I have done was post my opinion and experiences of taoist theory and taoist related topics. Oh btw master Waysun Liao's average dvd cost only $50 and Waysun Liao is not affiliated with Gary Clyman so get your facts straight.

Minkus will derail a whole thread for his own personal interest and satisfaction.

yes very. I dont even feel like posting anymore info because i dont want minkus to benefit from it at all. It just makes me sick to my stomach.

Im not going to post anymore about it. My intention was just to educate others on what I know to share some info. I wasnt selling anything or trying to get people to buy something. This is what happens when you let someone like minkus just attack and accuse someone of something for no reason. This thread is about real taichi. All minkus posted was an embed videos of other masters. which is very entertaining but it really doesnt help anyone else out. If minkus wasnt going to share his personal understanding of taichi neijia(which im sure is extensive) then maybe he shouldnt accuse and attack someone who is? Why didnt minkus post anything he else? because he knows nothing else.

minkus didnt understand my original post where i said that jing and jing alone cant restore yuan qi. jing and yuan qi are 2 very very different things. Minkus has no idea what restoring yuan qi is like or what it really means and instead of just asking he makes very ignorant assumptions. jing alchemy is lesser alchemy( i think everyone else but minkus understood this) it does not fuse the xing and ming. Jing feeds from the body Yuan qi feeds the body So thus the internal power from yuan qi is much much stronger. Minkus dont ever again try to say i dont know what im talking about!

No gary isnt he teaches the martial path. Minkus has no fucking idea what he is talking about. at all.

Ok...Wow fuck you in short. i wasnt posting for my own benefit i was prompted to post and this is the main reason why i deleted most of my posts. This is a trolling action and I can asure you that you have no idea what your talking about. Ive actually been out of town this past weekend (my sister had a baby). but thanks to contributing to the thread on taichi or taoist alchemy i understand so much more now from your post.

Taichi leads to being a master of force whether it be physics or internal alchemy. I remember when i was 17 Sifu came up to me and asked me to jump up without going down first to just jump up from where I was at(Try it). The secret to this is by relaxing to deepen the space between relaxation to full muscle contraction. When done correctly this can create enough force to send you air bourne. Sifu could just jump in the air from his natural standing position with no telegraphed movement beforehand.(it was very hard fighting someone who could do this) Now once you were able to jump up with out going down first or telegraphing it you then learned how to land softly. Then you learned how to use the force you got from the ground when you landed to launch your self back in the air very quickly. This taught me about wasted motion. Now once you could do this you learned how to use this princible to do a springy step to advance on your sparring partner with lighting speed with no telegraphed movement. This same theroy was used for fasting hittting and kicking. This was the light body technique and it can be used to move faster, jump higher, and hit harder. Now with chi you would just relax and circulate your internal power faster and faster while relaxing deeper and deeper until the mooment of contraction and then you would direct your internal power in the way you wanted to move. But the internal was just a push it was not the technique itself it was a booster. This was part of the offensive taichi I learned from Sifu. Now the spirtual path of taichi was just more than the grand circulation. Which is needed to guide the internal power thru your body. The internal power from the spiritual path of taichi is more powerful than the internal power from the martial path. When you tap into the orginal life energy and restore the yuan chi that power just by the virtue of connecting to it enahnces you. Jing on the other hand is created by your body and your body's physical status affects your internal power. Jing and Yuan chi both cultivate vitality into internal power but jing will never be as powerful as the source power. Jing is internal power that comes from the bones. Yuan chi is internal power that comes from the dantian. Connecting to this will beam a signal to all organs, nerves, cells, and so on and will charge you up. You cant ever be sick or out of balance once you connect and restore that. from that point on when you do taichi you actually connect to this and it charges you up. The elixer field that is created when you do taichi feeds this power which is intelligent. Your tapping into the inner intelligence of the body and enhancing that power. Thus neikung. Jing is an attempt to recover that yuan chi but it will never be as powerful as it for the body is used to create jing. Yuan chi creates snd enhances the body. All the circulations like the mco is just the intrinsic energy pathways that was used in your mothers womb to create your body. Like first your spine was made then your arms, then your head just like in the path of your mco. This is also why your mco flows when you have chi in your ldt. The path of the tao is the path to the origin. When you restore and tap into your yuan chi all these circulations will happen naturally. Now that you understand. Can you see why just running your mco and having jing is lesser when compared to the spiritual alchemy of taichi?

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Taichi's spiritual path has spiritual alchemy. The internal power that comes from that is more powerful than the internal power you get from the martial path of taichi. Like you can have internal power but no high level spiritual attainment. having your mco open and having internal power is for martial taichi because your internal power needs to be circulated thru your body. That alone has no real spiritual alchemy. Bringing your chi down to your dantian, spinning it, and condensing it can be acheived in a few months. Thats beginner shit. but creating a tian to feed and ignite the dan to attain the real yuan qi is a bit higher but what do you do when you attain that? Well thats even higher.

For me i bust a nut once every 3 months and 9 days. I found this works best because whenever you bust a nut it basically takes nine days to get back to where you were before you busted the nut. I still have sex in the meantime but i do taoist sex methods to retain my ejaculation. Ever since I started this method my practice has sky rocketed.

Im very glad you asked that! Yes there is a concessions stand in the lobby.

Real taichi? Well the way this thread is going id have to say this is mainly focused on fighting and fa jing. In that respect if your using taichi as it is taught to main public and going out and trying to fight with it then your going to be in for a big surprise. My first taichi teacher actually use to do under ground fighting in his youth. He learned taichi via his grand father at the age of 4. He taught me that taichi is a complete system. To be a real taichi master is to master the fast, the slow, the hard, the soft, the in, the out and so on. To master yin and yang movements and everything in between. To learn the flow and application of force. All movement is taichi, taichi just teaches you the best way to move. In taichi you learn how to fight from the center without moving, then moving left to right, in a straight line, in a circle and theres even drunken taichi. Taichi also has hard forms as well. Taichiquan is a complete system if you decide to give your life to a particular system. My former sifu would kick my but using taichi and im not just talking about push hands im talking about fighting. The internal styles are also known as the subtle styles as well. Even when facing off with an internal practitioner from across the room. Their movement is so sublte that it is hard to judge their distance or anticipate their attacks. This was another lesson i learned. Contact reflex is yang non contact reflex is yin real taichi teaches you how to do both. Now in real taichi there are 2 paths the martial path and the spiritual path. On the martial path you learn things like internal power, fa jing, and so on. On the spiritual path you learn the internal alchemy and work on restoring your connection with the tao. The spiritual path is much more powerful than the martial path because it holds a higher internal attainment.

To everyone's surprise Vmarco returned to the forum to address his nay sayers. Please stay tuned to another forumsode of As The Tao Turns!!

hmmm I dont know about that. If Vmarco is a troller then he replied with the most detailed posts than any troller ive ever seen. If he is an author than this explains his detailed replies (he likes to write). and If he was going to plug his book and do forum promotion its always better to establish a connection with the forum members first. Although i dont think he was going to plug his books for the simple facts that his posting style doesnt suggest that. my final thought on vmarco is that he may be new to forum posting.

On this thread its almost like "Lets talk in circles until i have a greater appreciation of what i already understand." I mean theres talk going on but but none that is perspective changing. Vmarco, In a few sentences what is undivided light and put it in clear enough terms that can be understood by everyone. Also your general post is big. be like the master lao tzu few words but powerful meaning there is an art to posting.

So truth is a living growing thing. So why does truth change or evolve over time?

No incorrect everything changes. What is true today may not be true tomorrow due to change. Change reveals the unchangeable truth.

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I must say I like the way you responded. I have a new respect for you. Yes there are bad Christians out there i agree on that but i dont hold it against the religion itself. Ill tell you this that real evil exist and i hope you never see it or experience it. Until you experience it then you will truly understand just as i did. I wish you the best.

Did you really just post a link to zeitgiest i mean really r u f'ing with me. Well hey its good you get your spiritual facts from youtube. Im just going to say this because i think you need to hear it just because you practice a meditative art does not mean you have to be against god or Christians. Personally i thank the lord that Christians took control of this country. Oh btw the founding fathers were all masons and not christians im sure theres a zeitgist movie about that as well. I am a hardcore taoist and I practice very hard for hours everyday and i firmly believe in god. There is no ascension, alchemy or whatever if it doesnt bring you closer to the supreme ultimate.- Just think about it it makes sense. Also you seem very anti christian may i ask why? me personally I admire all spiritual paths that try to reconnect man with god.