templetao

To give a small sample of what im talking ill list some of what i know about jing. Jing can be manifested as sparks, waves, magnetic, heat, and light. and there are sub categories in that as well. Like healing jing destructive jing and so on. It took me a long time to learn all this. If your going to study jing or fa jing then you should be well versed in jing theory. If what i said above is new to you then you still have a lot to learn about jing.

The man in the video has jing but not lin kong jing there are levels of attainment with jing. Just because you have jing doesnt mean you can do distance power. An practitioners who believe that still have alot to learn about jing. But jing is a big big subject which can take decades to understand.

Just to drive the point home in the magus of java there is a taichi master who cracks a rock in 2 from a distance. That is distance power lin kong jing.

Let me make this point clear. Out of the 108 jing expressions some of them are considered master level. Lin Kong Jing is one of them. To have Lin Kong Jing means that your waves of internal power have been refined and developed enough that they can now leave your body. It is hard enough to get to the point to where you feel your own inner power growing in your body even harder to get an opponent to feel it much harder to do it at a distance. So if anyone says they have lin kong jing then tell them they should be on the cover of taichi magazine. Because that means that if your doing push hands with someone like that then they are able to project their jing past you. meaning that they can most likly fa jing you thru the wall and into the next room while doing pushing hands. the people who can do that are very very few. Not many taichi masters trained in the right way reach that level of attainment. it takes hard work. To have lin kong jing means that your at the top of the ima world if you have the real attainment of lin kong jing and not what most people think it is.

Yes very different. Ling Kong Jing is a very specific thing. Doing healing with something like reiki or some type of burning palm from a distance is not lin kong jing. Its a different type of energy completely. Distance power means that you can now transmitted your waves of inner power over a distance. It doesnt just mean distance chi transmission. What you see people doing on youtube is something else it is not the distance power of lin kong jing. Lin Kong Jing is the ability to transmit your inner power at a distance. if anyone was to ever film real lin kong jing it would look like this the person receiving the distance strike would fall down like they were getting punched in the face. This is what makes it distance power. That is a very very hard attainment to get. Like at least 10yrs of hard work with the correct training. Even the most highly developed ima masters can only project their jing a little over 10inches.

As i read this thread and im realizing that very few understand the 108 jing expressions of taichi and what they are really like. So ill explain a little bit. When you do your taichi and meditative exercises and in time you will start to generate waves of internal power. These waves will always transmute and change in time as long as you keep practicing. So ill go into one expression listening jing. So what is this really like? This is where your waves of internal power give you an understanding of the state of your opponent's energy and status by responding in different harmonics and wave formations. This is a power that will develop in time. Meaning that your waves of inner power will have to continue to grow and transmute over time. So this is one level of attainment. Your waves will grow over time. So learning taichi will teach you how to master and develop this power over time. To those who know what im talking about - your left right vibration is just one out of many jing expressions. To get your internal power developed enough to where you can express all of the 108 jing expressions is a high development. Even distance power is a high development Lin Kong Jing is a hard attainment to get your internal power has to be very refined and mature. No one has this who is under 10 yrs of development. For remember the jing expressions come as your internal power develops. Taichi is the vessel you use to master your internal power and to become a master of it. Very very few really understand what a taichi body means and how valuable it is.

To further highlight my points in this thread. Given what i said earlier that neikung is inner skill then the ablility to transmit energy from one person to another for healing so that it builds skill in time is neikung as well. So when you hear or read about a neikung system know that it wil leave you with some inner skill either for healing or martial purposes. To spell out my point even further. Any qigong that you lean that is valid in time will lead to internal power but it most likely wont lead to internal skill there is most likely another type of training for that.

Ill break down what i meant in my earlier post on this thread. Kung Fu roughly means the skill attained thru hard work and time. Nei Kung means the inner skill that is developed over time. You can have inner power with qigong now developing this power as to build skill in it is neikung. So the methods of taichi bagua and xingyi their energy sets are mostly considered neikung because they teach you how to use your inner power to thus build up skill with it.

Qigong means chi work. So this encompasses the whole thing. Nei Kung means inner work which can be referred to as inner skill for this inner skill is a power in and of itself. to build and amplify the original power of the LDT(storing chi in the real dantian) is what chi work is about. To train this power and to make it into a fist or palm is an inner skill aka neikung. So this is why neikung is mostly attributed to internal styles. Their is hardly a neikung set that is not attached to a fist or fighting style i mean. To build the electrical energy in the body and to learn how to use it is neichiaquan. Energy sets from powerful to mild outside of the fighting arts are referred to as qigong simply because they do not train your inner power. I can take it deeper. There are many many types of jing even burning palm is a type of jing expression emitting light is a type of jing expression. and this is not including the 108 jing powers from classical internal martial arts. Here is the easiest way to tell the difference between a neikung master and a chikung master. A chikung master can be very very powerful but has very little internal skill. A neikung master can be very very powerful but the neikung master has inner skill and can express his inner power in various ways. When it comes down to the energy training its all about what inner skill does your art leave you with? So lets take a bit deeper the energy you work with and the vibration you develop varies. The vibration you cultivate can be very destructive in nature or healing. You can say the vibration is the manifestation of the energy you are cultivating and this accounts for various skills like burning palm and so on.

I call bs people have derailed my threads over and over again. Ive sent reports to the mods and the people never get banned or punished. Its just favortism and doing whatever the hell you want. The whole point of moderating topics is to protect the quality of your content for the user experience to thus enhance hits. Moderating your content is a vital part of owning a website. Also it is important for many many other reasons and no quality webmaster can ignore this. If this is ignored then the quality of the content goes down and the amount of quality visitors and contributors goes down and liability and risk goes up. Quality of the content(threads) comes first. If this was a video site then you would want quality streaming videos if this was a music site then you would want quality sounding mp3s but this is a forum so you should want quality threads and posts that keeps the members coming back.

Instead of just saying im wrong do the research and prove it. stop being lazy....

I dont care....

That is ok. take my advice or not. But i sense that your closing your heart to the possibilities open your heart MPG and let the valid teaching come to you. I wish you the best.

Let me decode what im saying. Your not John Chang meaning that your not some chinese kid living in asia. It was natrual for him to find a master because it happened naturally for him. You are a bit different you can not be a poor young man and come across the training he did for that to happen for you would be unnatural. The blockage you are experiencing of finding valid teaching is as deep as you ignoring the other aspects of your life like a career girlfriend and so on. You find these then the valid training will become manifest. Then the spiritual choice of leaving your life behind or staying in it will appear. On some level you know this and this could be why your questioning your chosen path.

Well when you have a job making $200,00 a year, a Ferrari, Barbie looking Girlfriend things will look better. Because the you will have the money to find a powerful taoist master in china and over 90 hours of vacation time to use to go see him. Then you will be a professional and a disciple student of a powerful taoist master while making $200,000 a year- Life can be that good MPG.

As a professional you will have the money to travel. being a professional isnt like being a worker. You can be a lawyer in china and because your a professional you work the hours you want vacation when you want and have the respect of just about everyone. being a professional is the way to go. It will open alot of doors to you.

MPG, i think what you going thru is a good thing. Having a career will give you the time money and respect to pursue your goals for a lifetime. The worse thing of all is looking back realizing all the stuff you missed out on your life.

Ok so whats the point here? Is it- Im a grown man in 2013 and i need a career? Well welcome to the party pal. Maintain that your social life, love life, and be a serious cultivator and you will be a success at living your life the way you want while still having a life worth living. The forum idea you had was a good idea and could have worked. Building a taoist website that makes some revenue isnt a bad idea.

My point being thus. martial that came from shaolin was influenced by vajramukti. If your practicing martial arts without internal power training your practicing martial arts from a much earlier age. Even though today martial arts is popular alot of valid teaching is still slow on coming out.

This is my understanding Buddha taught the shaolin monks one complete nata and 2 pratimas of the Bodhisattva Vajramukti, namely the nata of Buddhist Lion Play School and 2 of its pratimas(shorter sequences). The nata was called Astadasavijaya which means 18 subduings. This practice was absorbed by the chinese and was called the Shiba Luohan Shou or the 18 hand movements of the immortals (Arahants). The chinese term xing served as a translation of both nata and pratima. The Shiba Luohan Shou was the most important buddhist nata/xing introduced into china. Which became knows as the Shaolin Szu school of martial arts or Quan Fa. Which translated into the 18 Buddha boxing methods. The 2 shorter pratimas or forms taught in this were the Asthimajja Parisuddi- which is a buddhist movement and respiratory yoga for tissue regeneration, catharsis, and karmic recognition. In chinese this became known as the Xisuijing. The second pratima was the Snavasjala Nidana Vijnpti which in chinese is called the Yijinjing which is a type of isometric exercises and meditations which builds vitlatiy and can change the health from poor to good. So basically meaning that the xisuijing and the yijinjing were 2 small energy practices of the larger vajramukti which was termed Quanfa in chinese and this spread during the tang dynasty(600-900A.D.) This gave birth to the 18 Luohan monk forms. In time the word xing began to mean mind body spirit relationship. Xing got shorted to the word sanchan meaning triple battle. This in time was changed to santi and the santi position was the position for cultivating xing. The santi position is a mudra from vajrmukti and this whole body position was known as Trilokavijayakayaashana meaning the postion of one who subdues the 3 realms. This position takes the shape of a vajra. This was the evolution of vajramuti to shaolin into xingyiquan. marshel Yue Fei did not create xingyiquan he was the first to bring it to the forefront the practice was secret until this time.

Its all about building a foundation. Do 90 days of retention and train daily. Then from the put on lose your essence as little as possible. Maybe once a month or once every 2 months. But this also depends on what type of alchemy you are doing as well my above statement was just a general guideline that i use.

It just hit me today. I was thinking that this is a community of people that constantly search test and verify meditations. And even after a person has found the path that they can walk down they will still buy other meds simply to build up their arsenal.

Exactly.

yes this has been my experience as well as also removing the bad energy signals helps to increase the signal from the ldt as well. It is purifying the mind, the spirit, and the energy so one can once again listen to the ldt.

Just thinking about current events here it is almost like a taoist soap opera around here. I check in everyday to keep up with the latest episodes(forumsodes) So maybe this thread can be kept up as a ttb narrative of current events of other threads here by the members.