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Now what i said should seem obvious but it is like i said. If you were not looking for the source and moving towards it then it wont reach out to you. Others are more concerned about power or yang chi. Due to either control power or being deluded into thinking that attaining the source is beyond their means. So i guess John Chang was right - we all approach life in a way that reveals who we really are. But know this in the end virtue will find you. It will either purge you by the fire of your desire to burn away the impurties so you hit rock bottom and to make the light of virtue obvious and brighter or for others the choice to go to it will manifest out of the blue like lightning. -Understand

A Yuan chi method just restores the original virtue it may or may not reconnect you to the source so if you find a master in this be sure to question the method and find out. The light body technique that makes your body lighter. Is only due to the fact that your body is being rewired to fuel itself from the ldt its just a more pronounced full body power. Now during this training you will get the power of jing dont be confused or concerned by this for these are only blips on the radar along the path.

To move away from virtue is to move closer to darkness but this will cause the light of virtue to shine more brightly as a torch to guide you and to remind you of the path.

Know this as you brighten as you ascend all the lines connected to you brighten. Know that karma is only the effect of the presence of virtue in the universe. Virtue ascends and attracts those moving towards it will cause those who are moving away from it to repel themselves - it will cause them to move further away from it. =karma - This keeps the pure - pure, only until the those moving away from it decides to return. But Virtue being the force that balanced yin and yang will bring those moving away from it back to itself. We are the yin and yang working it self back to the source. Virtue will reach out to us if we only move closer to it.- Understand.

i urge you dont chase yang chi and mistake the stream for the source.

Now which chikung masters makes it to this level? little very very few due mainly to misinformation. To find a method like this find a wuji method of chikung that deals with bringing energy from the source out. Then train in the one that offers the most/deepest training. A wuji method trains you to be able to handle the energy from the source.

Only the awaken shen can awaken the original power. Ill bring up this point. When the gate is fully opened then you will stay in a permanent state of balance. So when you awaken your original virtue. At first it wont radiate all the time. You will focuse on your dantian and it will charge you up and send a powerful buzz thru out your whole body. In time this will get easier. So you will strengthen this power feeding it. to explain this i have to explain what dantan is. Dan means fusion of sun and moon -aka original virtue Tien means field The ideogram for this looks like a candle. The flame is dan and the tien is the wax. Meaning the field feeds or fuels the flame. So when the dan is awakened it is fed by the tien or chi field that comes from continuing to practice. Now this is done so your Virtue can handle the difference of power the source. When you connect your Yuan chi to the source it is so powerful that you will be barley able to hold on to it. This is the next big thing. So im talking about opening the inner gate keeping it open for as long as you can as pure current from the source.

if your noticing a connection between purity and power then your on to something. fire element represents individual will. You left virtue hot as fire. We return as light which stands for awakened spirit or purified fire. Thunder and lightning on earth happens do to an imbalance of heaven and earth chi. The thunder lighting is the third force coming to balance them. When this happens = thunder and lightning- So it represents awakening you to your original nature/self.

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Now im just a simple tea sipping tao bum. But! If Romney Ryan is the beginnings of the Red Ribbon Army. Then where is Goku?!? Is it Master Lin? and Should Romney Ryan be concerned!?!?!

Its just so much BS. Here is what i mean if the guy who wrote the Magus of java cant ascend to higher levels in the Mo Pai what makes you think that you or anyone else can? If May Yung Chen knew about John teaching westerners then whats makes people think that he wouldnt find out about this as well? A little common sense goes along way. What Hern Heng is doing is Misleading people and himself. Its the blind leading the blind. They would all be better served practicing a system that they can complete. Instead of exploiting Mo Pai to the fullest. All this does is to reassure the decision not to teach westerners was right. Just my 2 cents

Your Welcome Im glad you like ill make a more in depth Air manual. Im also going to redo all of the element manuals. They will include much more info.

My Question is under who's permission do they teach and sell mo pai products? If John Chang doesnt charge his students what right do they? The name Mo Pai is the property of inner traditions im shocked they havent put an end to it.

Look im just going to bow out. if you want to try to convince people that they shouldnt have a teacher then thats your prerogative. Im just saying there are different traditions of element training i have came across a few that was different than mine. This isnt bs i have their phone numbers and email address' of practitioners from other element lineages that span back from thousands of years. Thru my research of talking and meeting some of these different practitioners I learned different things. In one tradition i learned that they consider fire to be the magnetic element not water. What i did find is that they all had moving forms and could healings and so on. We even discussed what was in popular books. And the consensus i got that what was in just about all of them was really not the real stuff. Infact they had alot of taoists come to their retreats or just come for lessons because they heard that they can get a higher attainment or open their mco more quickly. The other funny thing i found is that initiation was something that was required for all of them. Some had alchemy training that was directly connected to their element training while others had the element training but you had to do other spiritual training they had. When i referenced air in the past post air represents balance of the forces. For yin and yang chi to come into is via air for them to stay balanced in you is via air. The elements existed in spirit before they did in physical form. I dont know when meditation became a bad thing but whatever. Ill tell you this out of pity because i pity you. When you bring the fire chi in to your body bring down to your ldt condense it and spin at the ldt and hold your breath while doing it. And thats not even the full or complete way to do it.... To be honest i just feel sorry for you man. there are chinese schools of this japanese schools and so on but you know what i found in the chinese and japanese schools is they mixed it with some other types of chi kung. some where actually pretty cool. Like when you get proficient in air training you can actually talk to people from great distances. Most all alchmey uses different elements at some stages. So if you practice at some point you will visions and esp thats a water trait or generate heat thats a fire trait levitate thats an air trait. So this will happen as the chi moves thru the chakras it was thru the air element directly that these elements came into your body balanced and moved up. But in some schools they still work with the elements directly it isnt such a modified approach. They spend time with each element directly. So understand that generating heat having visions levitating and so on wasnt even what they considered tru spiritual work they all had something more something higher. Understanding the elements will help you to understand alchemy period. For alchecmy is the combination and use of the elements.

so you tell lies too than post my edited posts that had cuss words in it.

Listen Disabled i got the meds so yeah....... my practice trumps your bs. Your so full headed. it is your ignorant approach that made the thread go south. I even edited my own posts so they would be not so harsh to call you on your bs. Now you could have just moved on from their but in true douche bag fashion you didnt. You come on here and act like an authority on all things. You know about my practice and all other things related to the elements and if anyone anyone posts anything that is slightly different than you instead of just learning it. You shoot it down. So im going to make this very simple for the mentally impaired. I have the meds i can do element healing i can make element fus and so on. What i practice is inner power and alchemy thru element training. We have martial applications and so on. You teach i mean quote from a book of how to use the elements for spell casting which is so below a perfected or enloighten being. I have a brain im not going to post how to cast spells to the public. Your not knowledgeable on these things you didnt learn it from anybody you just read a book and acting like a pro and shunning someone who did learn from a master. Kind of a douche way to be. but hey thats Disabled Not Broken! Oh and dont think we dont know that your posting just to get hits to your blog...what didnt think i caught that awww too bad.

Go play magic kids! Ill go meditate funny that i have to say that on a tao forum.....

Dude why are you trying to start something? My school is part chinese and Tibetan. This isnt magic. We practice the mco we have iron body seated meds standing meds and moving meds... This is the path of element power... Maybe one day you will grow and learn to share with other people and discuss like a mature adult. I can tell your not a serious practitioner because to be honest if i came across another practitioner and they had some badass fire form that was different than mine id want to learn it because this is what i do..I wouldnt argue with them. But hey man go play with your magic ill stick to my breath retention standing meds moving med and seated meds Kid there is more than one tradition of element training you'll learn that in time.

Thats a loaded question. Its liking asking 3 things so lets start from the beginning. How do you know if your even accumulating them right? is it reverse or normal breathing? sitting or standing? what do i do with my hands? I also notice in bardons book one of the levels of expertise is manifesting it out from nowhere and using it. How do you manifest it? do i just imagine that its working?.... These are some serious questions that need answering before you could even continue in your practice if you were serious. I know in my training that if you are collecting fire that it is a standing posture, that has breath retention, a mantra, and a certain way to breath while your doing reverse breathing and a chi circulation so its all of this while collecting and condensing the fire element. and thats just 1/3 of the basic training in the fire element let alone some of the other stuff. charging your elemental chi is a seated med that has to be done for about an hour a day and then there is of course the moving med for fire. To be honest to understand the elements from the ground up we have to start from the beginning. Lets knock this hurdle out of the way first of all there is really only one element and that is air(follow me on this ok). Yang chi is only a gas a solar gas- yin chi is the magnetic field of that gas. Magnetic pulls and brings things together condenses. This yin pulled and brought all of the elements in but since it had yang it. it could not be collasped all the way. this became the earth element. Earth enhances and grounds all of the other elements. Earth is yin or the way of yin for earth keeps all of the elements together. Earth has to do with manifesting(out of the earth). Air has both properties of fire and water in it. Air balances yin and yang it is the force between heaven and earth. Air is the alchemically most important for there is no thunder no sound without air.... Air balances yin and yang. All there is is air. it is air that sustains life it is air that is responsible for communication not just between us but between yin and yang. Im not just talking about as you know im talking about the energetic and spiritual exp<b></b>ression commonly known as air. Air is the element of balance and of sound(vibration). You have to understand how thing went from working with the elements to alchemy as we know it today. All of the elements have spiritual qualites that will develop spiritual abilities. All there is is air thats why all of the elements is in air. Air is the 3rd force that spread to the outer and the inner to balance yin and yang chi. Air is the balance of yin and yang chi. The ancients were correct chi can be referred to as air but this had double meaning. 1. All chi is air 2. in cultivation all you should have is a higher level of cultivated air chi(higher level of balanced yin and yang chi). So the training changed. To focus more on air training for with proper air training you get it all. What i found is that what most practices forgot is that you can work with the elements directly and increase your water chi fire chi earth chi and so on to a significant amount. This has to deal with so much much more than whats just in a bardon book this relates to all of us this is all of our heirtage. fire deals with independance (self) air the way(balance of yin and yang) water leads the way(yin) earth is center it focus' you.(focus of the elements) light the awakened fire the realized self So center your self enhance yin and yang connect to your inner fire in a yin way acheive balance and gain illumination. For this way is thru air. Understand All life in nature is a struggle for air. Nature is a lesson of the balance All of the elements has a spiritual presence.

Im done yeah and i can see my posts were a little heavy. Ill edit them so it does ruin the thread.

I was only replying to the thread that implied my position from another thread. Up to that point i had no interest in this subject for it is nothing that i practice. It was post #11 on this thread that prompted me to respond.

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Please continue your lesson on this i think you have the rest of us rivoted.

Theres nothing wrong with having a teacher.

i have nothing against honest scholarly debate. However when you have someone just posting arcane things and stringing them together who lashes out when ever questioned is just sad. Im sorry when you start talking about king arthur and bending on a taoist forum then post no links to sources dont mention any good masters or give a good med then your open to criticism.