MERCELESS ONE

interesting! i can see this on multiple levels. to me its whatever works! legit/illegit dosent matter! ive seen fighters get destroyed using either.

are you just quoting philosophy or do you really know what you are talking about? because i understand what you said perfectly. the sad thing is if you really know what you are talking about why do you make such quotes as the one before? obviously you learned that from somones philosophy! you should use your talents to help and not be arpart of the problem!

not everyone will under stand this one, but i love it!

its interesting that you say that! the teachings are hidden in the philosophy! the philosophies are designed to hide information from the unworthy! my brethren and i have learned much and developed many techniques from the philosophies and created a powerful system of our own! you may need to just open your mind instead of being so skeptical.. ill throw you a bone, if you have heard of any of these things, elixer field, vital vapor, steam from fire and water, all reate to mixing yin and yang energy. after mixing yin and yang a field is emitted by the dantien and these are some of the names used to describe it. these books arent worthless its just your understanding is! you may ask how do i know that...read between the lines. and DONT THROW OFF OTHER PPLS ABILITY TO LEARN BECAUSE you don UNDERSTAND SOMETHING be a man and simply say that you dont understand. ppl like you do the most disservice to these practices!

wow.....i dont drink koolaid. and i already knew it was staged to push gun control laws. as it was happening i told some of my co-workers that was why it happened and about 10min later they start talking about gun control laws. and what was really messed up is the anchor had a smirk on his face like he knew what was going on. its why all of these similar situations happened.

and your speaking because.... one may not speak because one does not know, one may speak because one does not know, and some speak because they wanna know. and some get in the way of knowing because they refuse to understand, i see what i see and thats all that i see!

yes! to all of your questions! what happens is we are taught how the world is and that closes our minds to how the world actually is. my experience with this is with my neice and her telepathy. my twin and i use it every now and then, and noticed that she could pick up on our frequency. so we would relay messages and such. and it suprised the hell out of me how good she was at it. my bro and i were not that good at telepathy despite being twins. so we used her to strengthen our own ability by " mind speaking " but it all went away. she went to spend the summer with my aunt out in our home town. whatever she learned there closed up that portion of her brain. when she came back she was different more fearfull if you will. like how religious ppl are thinking that somthing is going to get them if they dont pray or worship or somthing. and yes im am parralleling this with religion because of the mental defects it causes in the mind most " believers " will never learn what we are truly capible of as humans. but yes we are all naturally psychic, and our channels are fully open, in most cases. you will have those who are born with lower than normal energy and those ppl need more attention to get their energy up. part of the taoist, yogic, and many other philosophies are designed to get you back to that state of being. the state of being we live in closes off our energy channels, also our diet and so much more. but changing this will alter you back to the natural state we are born in.

true science!

ive studied information and ways of being from all over the world. the wealth of knowledge, and experience you will gain is priceless. so my answer is yes. why not? ive heard ppl here tell people not to practice multiple systems. im against that. practice and learn as much as you can. doing so, you will see a picture bigger than what you may have ever known.

and to answer the question, i do! the thing is, you have to accept it. and if you truly desire to master this it has to become your life. and the only way to reach mastery is to incorporate these ways into every part of your life. you cant just play with it and half ass it. you have to become it. that even means changing who your around, your friends and such. it helps the vibration of your energy to surround yourself with others that vibrate the same energy. in truth there is much that you would have to do that most arent up for. but the short answer is just live-it, and be aware of tonal and nagual...

finally somones talking about the nagual way of being. the books by carlos casteneda started my awareness training that until reading this thread didnt realize how much they changed my way of thinking. after the first time i awoke within a dream i was hooked. and to this day i still use the techniques from those books.

its sad but i know that hes is. awarness of onself and the world around as ive found in 95% of ppl ive come in contact with not including this site dont care about expanding awareness! ppl are content with being comfortable with what they believe, and hope for! and that you used hope you already had a preconcieved notion that ppl do want to better them selves. i know this to not to be so.

lmao, thats so true! ive run into that alot on here. ppls believs and how they mean more than truth. and may be the reason ppl havent reached the heights of meditation and energy that most wish to!

if it wasnt for the lies and deception of the church i would probably have a bible too!

the taichi master -jet li-

this is so true! i have personal experience with two elderly men. my grandfather and his younger brother. last i went home i saw my grand dads brother, my grand dad is 10 yrs older than his brother. so i contrasted my granddad with his brother at the same age. and there was a big difference. my granddads brother at the time was 72. he moved like he was 32. and i when my grand dad was 72 he moved like he was 72. so i asked my granduncle what is the difference in you and my granddad, you move better and think better what do you do thats so different. and what he said was the simplest wisdom EVER! he said i eat healthy and keep my mind sharp, i exercise, and keep all things in moderation. on diet he said: i eat manily fish, i dont reallylike red meat but eat it every once in a while, i eat all my veggies and stay hydrated. i started laughing, all the things we now learn to do in our era this man has been doing for the last 72 yrs. now i understood how he had a wife that was in her mid 30's lol! and from the stories i heard of him he never dated women over 40. wow! and if it wasnt for the white hair he would look like he's in his late 40's early 50's maybe younger. if a simple man from his era in a small country town can do this we city folk with our fancy education should have no problem! lmao!

yup! the powers that wish to control all aspects of humanity will do whatever it takes to push their plans along...

yes they are related. the energies of these two chakra share a space thats why its called the triple burner system. once energized they will move energy back and forth to one another. and yes they both have their uses. the solarplexus is used in controling the energy field after yin yang kung,ie changing frequencies and such. and the heart chakra, when used correctly can create a torsion field in the body helping sustain energy and clear out blockages in that area.

this is an interesting thread! i personally dont think anything is wrong with eating meat morally or spiritually. and after talking to the gods- yes all of them they said why would they create somthing that we could eat and say its bad for you. cows cant eat meat and its bad for them. -but humans can- "read between the lines" and it doesent make you all sick. but it should be a choice ot the indevidual. so i did my own experimtntation. i would only stop eating meat at different points for healing and energy. and when i eat meat i prefer wild game and meat from small farms like the one i grew up on. i think the problem is that ppl stoped respecting life and created factories that demorilize animals. beef from the grocery store tastes different from my grandparents beef. they treat it better plain and simple! the cows there eat a healthy diet of wheat and rye grass and the occasional corn to snack on left over from the summers harvest. the same with the pigs and chickens. if respect of life can come back then i think things would be different. there is a ritual done that we do at the end of a hunt where we pray and give thanks to the animal that gave its life so that we can survive. i dont like hunters that just kill for sport or "trophy hunters" it sickens me to se such disrespect of nature. also in some places ppl cant be vegan or vegeterian the climat just wont allow for it. they need the extra calories and carbohydrates form the meat they eat and the little grain they can store. but where i live i can buy 25-45 dollars worth of veggies and fruit and that lasts for 2 weeks. so there is some economics involved here. and there are foods you can add to your diet to supplement for meat intake one being the micro alge spirulina and clorella. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirulina_(dietary_supplement) using spirulina i lost my craving for meat. during this time i was working out, lifting weights alot and gained alot of muscle and was working out with 315 on the bench press and hadent eatin meat in months. so after doing some research on these alge i was amazed. from my experimentation with diet ive found its what ever works for you. and your diet should be based on how you choose to live your life. if you dont care about being healthy eat what ever u want. if you want to be consious be that. also there are ways around eating meat if thats waht your looking for. me i eat mainly vegeterian but i do love the tast of a good steak, deer rabbit, and other tasty farm animals. so my goal is balance for me and my lifestyle. but i think we should care for our food as much care about it.

verry interesting! but from my own experience, i have experienced all you mentioned but not in that order. and i think it has to do with ppls development and state of mind and being, also with their knowledge. as the unibrow guy mentioned there are some techniques required to pass from one state to other. and as creation mentioned, I am convinced that the process of spiritual development proceeds on several different axes at once. this is because of individual development and knowledge attained/recieved/available.

ahhhhh now your speaking my language! more meditations means more parts of the human being awakened, means greator understanding! i want some for breakfast lunch and dinner and even that fourth meal. you know the late one after dinner but before breakfast!! lol!

lol!

i would like to say i like this thread! there is some real meeting of the "minds" if you will. also i would like to add that all this information when created long ago was done so for the facilitation of immortality! these concepts are put in a manner that still works today, by getting ppl to think, and understand things outside their normal reality. tis the only way one can understand the workings of life and the universe and how that relatest to the human being. some of the teachings are different( as i stated in another post) because some of the individuals who created these teaching were at different cultivation levels. the understandings of a master of yang/solar/light energy willl be different of a yin/lunar/earth energy master. and for those who were able to to unite the two are ablet to reach even deeper levels of understanding. and all that you all have been mentioning and discussing here are some of the gateways to this! i would like to point out somthing about the void state. the void sate is the best state to fill the dantien, and the void state is similar to the womb. imortal fetus has started when the dantien starts to fill. but these realizations come when reaching high levels of cultivation, and the answers reveal them selves. compassion and void- in the void state one can feel the most compassion for all life its like feeling tangible love somthing you can truly feel, and will always remember. there is so much more to be learned and experienced and im excited to know that so many others are seeking and following this path!

the immortal fetus is the dantien

i practice 2hrs a day. during the day i do standing and moving meditation, and in the evening i do sitting meditation.