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Xabir, no matter how clear you percieve the passages to be, it still is in reference to self and ego. It says Nothing about: you don't exist, I don't exist, or they don't exist . . etc.

I have also heard the earth is yin, although I haven't had any evidence or experience to verify that claim. What would make earth yin and another planet yang? What is the difference? Is it at all possible that both aspects are present to make earth a possibility even? What is earth without sky, what is a sky without earth? These are honest questions, not an argument.

Interesting outlook. What makes you think the energy you are transmitted is any different from the energy I cultivate? How is the age relevant at all? How would one honestly determine the age of the energy? Evidently you have felt something profoundly different that you don't think you can do on your own, but do you know for a fact you can't?

They are not saying anything about you don't exist. I'll save you the trouble and let you know you won't find it anywhere, because it doesn't exist. "The self is a mere imputation based on the power of the ego-clinging"

So wheres the proof? Sounds like they are talking about the self and ego, not about I don't exist. "If the first were true, there would exist some other substance."

Prove it, where does anyone of your favorite teachers say they don't exist? By this I don't mean something that could be interpreted either way, I mean firmly states as an absolute fact that they do not exist, that I do not exist and that you do not exist.

Ah, but you are not, you have claimed that you don't exist.

Test what I have said, get your favorite quote about self that you thinks exclaims your view and replace self with ego and then see if it still coincides.

Hey Xabir, Everything you read about self from now on, replace the word self with ego, and see what you can make of it or if the conclusions are different.

No it doesn't, you are reading shit into it. It is such an easy question a kindergartener could answer it. It is not a freaking trick question.

For me, if I bring awareness to front I feel things like love , fire and water, but If I am channeling celestial chi (with awareness at third eye or upper Dan Tien) it comes down my spine most prominently, but I feel it everywhere. It can be guided to other channels and locations outside of the channels, like to my hands or where-ever. The same with fire and love. If I just let the celestial chi flow it goes out my feet.

Now for the big question, do you exist? I don't give a shit about self, I am not asking about self, I am asking do you exist.

Here is an example. The orb of the sun or moon or any planet would not exist without the gravity that is holding it's pieces together. There is no way for it to form. Without the pieces to be held together there is no orb because well . . . there is nothing to be held together.

Doesn't the rock generally come before the flower though? (All puns intended)

The orb itself may be yang, but the gravity it creates is yin, imo.

I personally don't see energy as yin or yang. They seem more relative to the elements from this perspective. How I do see yin and yang is this. Yin is a sucking force and void of everything, controlled by the right hemisphere of the brain or your left hand, and yang is a pushing force that is everything excluding the void, controlled by the left hemisphere of your brain or right hand. If you ever peer into the void and don't fall in you will know yin.

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No one needs an energy transmission. They can find it no doubt. It isn't so complicated as people make it.

This one was by the former admin . . http://www.ruthlesstruth.com/arena/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1081 I've been putting this off for a while. I'm not sure why. I have formed friendships with some of the members here, namely Kakistos and Kevin. I don't want to lose my friendship with them-and I hope this doesn't end it. But I've put this off long enough. I've been quite inactive on this board. My last topic was created in early April, and before that I had been inactive for some time, with a handful of posts in February and March. I've logged on from time to time to look around, check for any Mod messages of things that need taken care of. But here is how things are: I've not been following the mindset of the majority of RT for a long time. I don't feel the urgency to spread this like gospel. To be very honest, I find the philosophy lacking-incomplete. It's impotent without being paired with more--namely, for me, the power has been in seeing the unity between us all: the lack of separation. But it is hard to describe this insight--it is more intuitive, sensed. The philosophy-no self-can actually be quite damaging. It's snake oil to market it as it is. I know there's this whole emphasis on "harpoon" and approaches and whatnot. It's bullshit. People don't want to be told that you have a magical spiritual panacea--or rather, if you do tell them such a thing, then you had better have a goddamned panacea. Seeing that there is no self does not end human suffering any more than looking into a mirror cleans a dirty person's face. It allows for things to be seen, and to be seen more clearly. I am glad for this understanding, but I don't cling to it any longer as so many here do. I don't feel compelled to "save the world" with it. When this whole "tournament" thing started, I voiced my concerns then. So did others. But I did join in. But I was less than honest. What most, if not all, members were doing was going forth with what you saw as some weighty gift: the end to human suffering. My approach quickly changed. First it was Bentinho. I looked around and saw some bullshit, but I found many gems as well. I collected those little gems for my own use. I realized that RT was unearthing some wonderful resources, and after RT had finished with pillaging, I hung around. I wanted to learn what I could for my own further spiritual search. Instead of seeing my own insight as some gift, I realized that others had much more to offer me than I did to them. So I stopped thinking I knew so much and opened myself up to other possibilities. I learned a lot from Bentinho. I am sorry that no one else seemed to. I found other people and sites who offered up spiritual insight after spiritual insight. Scott Kiloby is amazing. But you despise Kiloby, don't you? Bentinho, too. And why? Because you believe you have reached the penacle of spiritual enlightenment-and these two men had the nerve to call RT a cult! Well, I am sorry to admit it, but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. It is lacking control of members' finances--that would have been the final nail in the coffin. But a lot of it seems to fit the bill. The egomaniac leaders, the berating of anyone whose viewpoint differs, the emphasis on this-the spreading of this message-being the meaning of life. I found SpiritualTeachers to be enlightening. Some of the members are just posing and wanting to be gratified for their spiritual prowess. But there are some who really have something, and it flows from them like honey mead. It is intoxicating and wonderful. I was glad for the exposure. I still check in from time to time. In the beginning, I was exploring my world the only way I knew how: by burning everything down. Destruction. But then I saw what I was doing-and regretted it. It is not that I have been too busy that I have been inactive on this forum; it is that I have not agreed with much any longer. I began to follow RT as a collector will walk the beach after a storm. Picking up beautiful things, meeting wonderful people. The places you would find would be a veritable goldmine of mind-provoking ideas but also-and I was not expecting this-truly wonderful people. I know, I know: I'm full of shit; I'm a big cunt; a bleating coward; a traitor to humanity; etc. These words didn't affect me when I first joined, and now that I am stronger, I can assure you they won't affect me now. I should have said this publicly a long time ago. Namaste, and I do love you guys. Even though I believe many are misguided and lost.

Here is another milder example. http://www.ruthlesstruth.com/arena/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1297

Try to bearth some into your belly, I bet you can do it longer. 100 seconds if I do focused breathing first. I am thinking there are probably many more benefits that we don't notice.