Informer

I know you think I have some agenda and are suspiscious of me for reasons of your own, talk to thuscomeone for a bit, he seems to have a firm grasp.

Ah, so you claim ownerships still, are you sure that it is your realization or your fruits?

What a coincidence, we posted at the same time and my response answered you.

I think we are at this point still Seth.

The dangling apple. So you are entering non-dual states? How is that even possible when you don't exist?

Sure, point it out bud, I'll be happy to explain. (Or try too) I don't feel discarded. Yes it is nice to have people to admire, but putting some above others is not what is heartmind. Neither is unrealistically wanting things unattainable.

It felt like the feeling was comming from the ground traveling upwards?

Nah, I don't get pissed. I was just trying to show you.

Like an Egyptian Pharoh that tells you what god you will worship. See how the masses fall in line, even if just last week it was someone else.

I see. More often than not people do take the path of least resistance even if it is wrong, it doesn't feel wrong because everyone else is going that way as well. Very insightful. I think it is the great ones that stand up against the tide, regardless of how they will be judged, they fallow thier heart, therefore develope an immunity to what others say/think about them. Like beyond the judgmental aspects that society would like you to think matters.

Sounds like you know more than me in this regards, please do tell.! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_materialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_theater

I felt a lump in my throat too Serene, from saying those things to you. I tried to look from your perspective to see how what I wrote would effect you. Now look from other perspective of the people who greatly contribute to these forums, pouring out thier hearts and soul's, only to be discarded by you, in favor of Seth and GiH. As well as the unrealistic multiplications of those to single people. It is sort of ungrateful from that angle. I know you was only showing your appreciation, although a very limited sort of appreciation. Anyways, don't worry about it. I am sorry that you felt angry/sad. Can you see how it could have been misinterpreted as putting people on a pedastal, above others atleast?

Same with you sir. I have learned quite a bit from you and from everyone here.

Well there are multiple ways to look at what she said, therefore it is up to her to make it clear, the lump was the natural instinct that says to fight or flight.

Ah I see you chose to fight. It is only natural to choose fight or flight. Although there are alternatives to that.

Does that make you feel a lump in your throat?

Yeah, you don't get it do you? You will one day By you I didn't mean you in particular but everyone. It is how it is Serene, why not accept the differences, and find the appreciation in even the objectivity that has brought us all together to these forums. Without that, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It sounded like much wanting in your post. The objective nature of science isn't subjective, regardless of how many seth's or gih's there are, and that is really unrealistic. Example: Maybe if Santa Clause was real he would be able to save all the children from the drought in Africa! Get it? The whole point of your thread is heart mind, which i am simply pointing out how erronous your statement / thoughts are in relation to that. Doesn't matter if you like it or not.

I can't tell if this is meant to insult other's, to praise those two, (stroking ego's) or a combination? It doesn't really matter, I appreciate you all the same, but not for the exact same reasons!

You could look at it that way. I look at the beauty of the man's realization and the hurdles he must have overcome to have that realization.

I didn't find the realization that I am not that reflection that I had once thought of as myself shocking. I thought it was really funny.

Interesting. There does seem to be a constant in the fact that niether reflect light to be perceivable by the eyes. Eye's which stem materialism, and objectivity, are not seeing it. Through the allocation of the other of the senses it becomes perceivable. Thunder exists to a deaf man as wind does to a blind man. By being felt.

Like the Cartesian Theatre?