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O.k. guys. I got something for you to try. In my process of trial & error I am exploring several ways to become a REAL master of the subject. I have found concentrating on other body parts (especially focussing inside the brain) to be a great practice to send the "energy" (the nerve impulses to the prostate) somewhere else or at last not let them reach their place that quickly... it helps to delay ejaculation immensely... I not yet know which parts are best to concentrate on and maybe it's a lot different for everybody. I have found that splitting attention helps best in my case. With that I mean: I have my attention focussed on several parts of body & brain, not just concentrated on one point. Today I mainly concentrated on Kidney 1 on the feet & the orgasmic energy started to move away from the genitals building up in the legs & feet. Would you please try this & report? Anybody had success with using the other 5 elements sounds? Harry

If you don't mind, Matt, I have no problem disussing this open: The first time I heard about that practice was possbily through Dr. Stephen T. Chang's book on sexuality... then Mantak or the other way round. I have read a lot after that and the problem is: I believe most people writing about that stuff do not really KNOW what they are talking about. Some say to apply the three fingers (pressing against the "million dollar point") in order to let the urge vanish and thereby let you last longer... Others say to apply that "lock" short before getting over the edge, so that the semen is not lost due to the contraction of the prostate but kept locked inside... In my case pressing that point according to the first view does not help. Actually it is quite stimulating and leads to a quickening of reaching the contractile phase... that's basically all Harry

Are you serious?

Yoda, actually Warrior Wellness is on its way to me & I currently try a Dragonherbs product with a green tea extract... will see how it goes... Harry

Hey Ron. Can you explain further the above 2 points. How does one "physically de-cum-chest da huevos" and actually "squeezes out da fluids"... What exactly do you mean by "hitting the wall". What to look out for? Harry

I am not yet that far to trust my gut, Matt. Actually it takes quite a loooooooong time to get back on track. An aneros device applied helps to shorten the time to next erection though, but one can not always count on such a device (and it is rather awkward to apply the three finger with that device involved)... actually I don'T stop the pressure, as that would lead to "spilling the milk over"... actually this raises a question. For whom the 3 Finger method makes the urge ti ejaculate vanish? I personally feel that the pressure applied to that point raises the urge for the prostate to start contraction... thankx Matt for responding Harry

I wonder why it is so much spoken aboutsending the orgasm/seminial vibration etc. up the spine. Has anybody ever tried to master ejaculatory control by getting it up the front channel?

Ron dear, you should be open for more possibilities...

As some of you might have noted I have not updated my "supplement" trial blog. The reason mainly that I seem to respond to most of nothing. But I now have a combination of stuff that does its job, so I am quite happy. Here I want to share with you my trial & error experiences to mastering ejaculatory control. I feel the first step to getting there is to have something to help you last longer. Logical idea, isn't it? Thing is. Most men ejaculate in between 7-13 minutes of entering the women... about 30 to 40% are said to have difficulties with premature ejaculation. So THIS IS QUITE A PROBLEM. What to do then? Well. Sure enough. WORK ON YOUR OWN first! THIS IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT. Start stroking until you get close and then stop. Start again & stop before that special point. This way you will "program" your ejaculatory reflex new. The Aneros device helps you to relax the area down there, which might be sooooooo tense. And relaxation really is important. NOTE though: this device can make you go over the edge quicker, because it applies pressure to the prostate when it is pumping up AND.... there you go... so. Practice awareness. For some the Aneros is great because it seems to be able to exert that much pressure in the right angle to shut the ejaculatory duct off, which allows them to have dry orgasms without ejaculating. In my case that does not work. None of the currently available products fit me that way. I sent the Aneros team my ideas already and even got a reply that those will be forwarded. Hehe. Maybe there will one be one carrying my name... well. Back to the serious part. I do not know how YOU experience it usually. But if I am really aware and listen to my body I can feel the area of my prostate inside being stimulated and "getting excited"... it is like two nerves entering the prostate each coming from one side. I feel this long before the contractile phase starts and before this starts the prostate suddenly swells big (which can nicely be felt with the Aneros device inside! Really GREAT training device)... Now. Dr. Lin advises against training the PC muscle, but instead training the muscle between the anus and the coccycx. The interesting bit is that by training that muscle and applying ones focus there the "excitement" energy felt at the prostate coming from those nerves entering there gets redirected to that muscle, giving you the pleasure feeling there. Now. I am not yet that far that this leads to a non-ejaculatory orgasm, nut I meanwhile have contractile phases mainly happening in that muscle (not the prostate) leading to pleasure there. This seems to be a great starting point for mastering it. Further I sure utilize the key sound, which not yet had brought the results I hoped for. AND: I concentrate on the Corpus Amygdala in my brain, in order for the energy to know where to go. (www.neilslade.com HIGHLY recommended)... I also have part of my focus on the occiput at the base of the skull so that the energy "knows" to get up the spine... by this kind of training I have worked myself from just 1 minute up to one hour of continuous stimulation (with variation)... have not yet applied it in "real life". Have to get to a better starting point to do that... so far from me. Harry sunshine

Definitely sending mine!

Well. Matt. Thing is. Wherever I apply the 3 fingers (even when done properly)... erection starts to vanish and it is a tough job to bring it back up. I know to remember that somewhere written that this is not meant to happen... but applying 3 fingers to stop "bursting" still has the same end result (a flattened penis)... if you have any clue HOW to change that effect I would be WAY happy thankx in advance Harry

Thankx hagar... I will see when I get to practicing it, but it is definitely worth a try... just have to see how to make more time available during the day... thankx for the link too!!! Harry

Thankx very much, hagar, for going into the details. While I do not really believe in the "theory" that one NEEDS somebody else to ignite ones fire I realize it to be a pretty good starting point. What I am especially interested in: the Shen you speak about. Is it your shen or some outside shen? I ask because you say: "Then alot of heat will pass out of the eyes, and after a while the shen will return to the body." So. Does it mean your first project your shen out by concentraing on the point in the air and it will be sucked in back on its own... or is it an outside shen entering your body? Is this exercise meant to work the first time you do it? Does your master have a webpage? Thankx very much Harry

Hagar, so. what excatly do you do then. Just have focus on the Dan Tien & Ming Men at the same time? Do you visualize them being connecting? Do you breath in/out through the points? What is the point to bring menstruation back? who is your master? thankx Harry

Thankx to all that pointed me towards standing meditation... while what I have done before might well contribute to the effects now ongoing I never ever before felt the effects of Qi Gong that pronounced and immediate as I do with the Zhan Zhuang standing meditation. THANKX GUYS & GIRLS Harry sunshine

You knew that I ask: WHY?

Sometimes not...

See. The Japanese with their Miridian oriented style acupuncture might speak about Ecess in the spleen meridian meaning that there is a surplus of energy which misses somewhere else... In TCM there might be Spleen Heat or something, but that would call for heat signs (sure can say that Heat equals Excess, but again we need the heat signs like hot hands/feets, red lips etc...) the white tongue stands for phlegm accumulation. If yours misses that it might still me very "fluid-like" (meaning: much fluid on the tongue) which might hint towards dampness...

Matt, please share: how does one manage the 3 finger method without loosing erection?

Japanese or TCM acupuncturist?

O.k. This is not REAL Earth excess. It is actually Earth weakness leading to dampness in the body which itself might lead to stagnation & in the end fire... get some earth STRENGTHENING herbs and eat better (if you can)... avoid fried stuff & similar. Proper nourishment is the key!!! And Mich Winn would say: Do OCEAN BREATHING!

Yoda man. Share with us RJ's step by step instructions that you follow... just in case you haven't already somewhere else...

While we are on the subject... You please try the following (especially those who are familiar with the keysound practice): Please get excited and then do the Lung 5 element sound... and let me know if the "urge" vanishes... the beauty of the Lung ssssss sound is that one can extend it pretty long... let me know how it works Harry

How does excess Earth show up for you? Wood is the liver. So strengthen the liver to control the earth. If you have an acupuncturist close, that person could also send some of the excess energy to the Earth's child Metal, in case it is empty... hmmmmmmm... very likely you know all that but wanted me to be more specific, right? Ah. Do the 5 element sound for the Earth... that might help... Harry

Anybody of you familiar with the different hand positions, their meaning, what they do etc.? there is the lay one hand in the other and out both thumbs together put thumb of one hand on PE-5 and makr a fist with the other hand around the thumn put two hands open on the legs so. what do they do, what do they mean... what are they good for? curious as always Harry