ChiDragon

Well, you ought to know. The old Tao Te Ching was not written in contemporary Chinese, you know!

No, not us with a limited mentality about these kind of highly written literature. I'll leave that up to the Chinese college professors who are familiar with 文言文.

There is a big difference in the description about the breathing method between Meditation and Dazuo. Meditation says breathe softly and natural while Dazuo says to regulate the breathing. It seems that Meditation did not take breathing too serious as the Taoists did in Dazuo. Regulating the breathing is the key to any practice of Wugong(武功). Wugong is a general term which includes every practice there is to enhance the ability of the body to perform some extraordinary tasks, e.g., from Kung Fu to Neigong practices. An intense Chi Kung practitioner will know what regulating the breathing is all about. Anyone can be snowed easily by someone telling you that Chi Kung is all about "energy works". People love to hear the word "energy", therefore, they will be paying someone to say the word for them to hear. Sometimes, I even have someone in the forum tells me Chi Kung has nothing to do with breathing. Well, of course, excuse me. It has nothing to do with just normal breathing but it has alot to do with regulating the breathing.

Why are you given me this link....???

I hope Lao Zi will be telling me the same thing as he tells you. I go see him in the near future too.

No, all meditations are focused. Ding meditation(禪定) is a method which is dedicated by a Buddhist to sit tight in an isolation place with no external disturbance. He sits completely still and locks himself in an non-moving state. It is not something that an ordinary person can be applied in daily life.

Only those who practice Chi Kung, all the healing will take place in a natural way.

Yes, it's the process of yin-yang.

Just to save time, let me just point out how Dazuo is different from other meditation styles. It has been known that Dazuo(打坐) is universal and standard in the Chinese Taoist practice. It is also my standard to go by in my practice. In addition, it is the style that I am using to compare with so-called meditation styles for effectiveness. IMO Dazuo has a much more clearer description than other styles. Its definition has been narrowed down to more explicit which very straight forward and easy to follow. It is the most effective way to invigorate and vitalize a human body. IMO anyway! The description for Dazuo is down pad in my heart. Dazuo is a form of internal practice, in three folds, regulates the breathing, enhance the body and inspire the mind. I had bee doing this to save me from kundalini. Indeed, regulates the breathing is integral part of me. My body and mind have been changed quite drastically since I have become enlightened with the understanding about Dazuo. From the constant practice, I can breathe easier, think clearer and my physical strength has increased immensely. No longer have prolong fatigue from strenuous yard work. I can pull a big weed with its roots right out of the ground without breaking it. I can cut up a cooked chicken with bones and all in 5 minutes. Each cut is only one blow if I do it right the first time. There is one thing one should know about "regulating the breathing". It doesn't mean breathe soft and natural. It is because it was only normal breathing and no regulation was taken place. Regulating the breathing is much more aggressive; it is breathing like a baby with the abdomen. As far as I know, Zazen is equivalent to Dazuo. Zazen is a Hindu Buddhist term which was borrowed by the Chinese as a translation for Dazuo. PS...... I shouldn't be shy about mentioning the come back of the libido.

Ki-Aikido..... Okay! You are not giving me the story straight. Ki-Aikido is the Japanese style Chi Kung which is called 氣-合氣道. It is different from the western style Meditation. Anyway, Ki-Aikido do perform Dazuo in their breathing practice.

First of all, I don't expect everything to be perfect at the beginning. It takes time for the body to adjust for a certain position which the body was not accustomed to. Of cause the comfortable position(CP) was not the ideal one, it is because the CP is not your own CP for you to be comfortable with. Throughout the early years of one's life, one had been picking up some bad habits of gestures and trained the muscle to be out of shape. Besides, the method of "meditation" is very unclear what exactly it was trying to accomplish with the kind of instructions given. From the readable literature, it says is better for the mind. However, the instructions in meditation and Zazen about breathing has not been emphasized enough as in Dazuo. I will point them out in the next post. Secondly, if one wasn't taught to breathe properly while sitting in a kind of lotus position, the body will become fatigue and sleepy regardless how perfect the sitting posture was.

That was what I am trying to say earlier; and you took the words right out of my mouth.

May I ask, did your meditation teacher mention any kind of breathing at all....???

I was trying to follow your logic from pinyin of a character to the letters of an English word which has no direct relationship. I am trying to figure out how did you arrive to that conclusion.

Do you think any English word that has TE is relevant to character Te(德).

I wouldn't click the "Like" button for the above post so soon, if I were you, without finding the flaws in it. The reason I clicked was because it helps me to use as a good example for my next post. Before I give my secret away, I would like to hear the thoughts from some of the Taoist cultivators here. This will reveal your 道行(level of Taoist cultivation).

That is a very good advice. Everyone should take precaution with one's own discretion.

It is a learning curve that we all have to go through. Initially it was hard, but don't put yourself in a stagnant state. Eventually, you will learn and improve by the failure encounters and successful experiences. It is only a matter of common sense and an open mind.

Okay! That is where they practice Zazen. The question, here, is what is Zazen rather where does one practice it. I do take semantics very serious for the refinement of understanding. Thank you!

May I ask? Is this too hard to follow? Does anyone has to pay a high price instructor to tell what is there already available? Btw There is still something missing here but it can be found elsewhere to put the pieces together. Is this effective? One will know the result from intuition and experience after a diligent practice in a certain time frame.

Which comes first between Chi Kung(氣功) and Neigong(內功)......???

No Buddhist want to response to this....???

Ding meditation is 禪定(Zen Ding), a Buddhist term same as Da Zuo(打坐).

Perhaps martial arts is not a good English term to sum up everything to include kung fu, Chi Kung, Negong, Weigong and Da Zuo. I just don't have a general term for it. In Chinese, I think 武功(Wugong) can be summed up with everything. Anyway, it is very difficult to communicate with the terms from one language to another without any misunderstanding. I think we both had some arguments back and forth, sometime ago, about finding and learning from a good teacher. With all respect, your points are well taken, I think this is a good time to end our endless arguments here as well. Thanks. Best regards.

I will agree that a teacher can only shows something to a certain extent, but the positive changes will be coming from my own diligent practice. I think why that you are insisting to go to a teacher. However, if a person has no martial art ground at all, one can go to any teach to get a good start. After a while, one will realize is the teach any good or not. Fortunately, I hope he went to right one. Otherwise, he will be learning somebody's bad habits and never know what the real stuff. I have notice the posts by the members of TTB. It seems to me lots of the things that they were saying are just took it for granted from their teacher. It was like that they only knew half of what they suppose to know. I don't know it was the way they had been taught or didn't catch the rest from their teachers.