ChiDragon

I would say all these are part of the cultivation of Xing Kung.

Good analogy and logical reasoning. The last line of Chapter 4 supports your analogy.

Mr. Chuji is not quite wrong but it was only the mistranslation of his words was wrong.

Those who know what Dan Tien is and practice Wu Kung(武功), martial arts. Especially, Chi Kung.

Of course, history doesn't change but it can tell us about the past.

Don't you believe in retroactive......???

The foods you ate has been converted into your body energy.

You welcome...!!! I may be running out of patience very soon. I think I had done enough damages here. It is time to take a flight to be a free wanderer as suggested by Zhuang Zi. I will spend more time for the Dual Cultivation of the Xing and Ming(DCXM) and let the West take its course. It was my pleasure for the adventurous journey well spent with the TTB.

It takes a lot more reading into the TTC besides just glancing at few chapters to reach a conclusion. All the Chapters must be considered in the TTC as a whole. I believe we had a thorough discussion in each chapter when we do the translations. It is very difficult to go into it; when people had made up their minds to attack everything that was mentioned in the discussion without really having any basis. Especially, there is one particular individual who has been happily haunting all my posts as a good example. PS.... Even though you have not learn the lesson from Chapter 5 of the TTC; but you have been very impartial, all the time, even in this thread. I do appreciate your fairness. You are a gentleman and a scholar....

Then what is it...??? Please give some your justification....!!!

following hands...... I didn't find any preconceived idea on his part. To the best of my understanding, that is how I view this member with his comprehension about the concept in Chapter 5. Btw Do we care where the idea came from as long it matches the concept of impartiality in Chapter 5.....??? We are dealing with Chapter 5 of the TTC, as far as I am concern, it is where the original idea about impartiality came from without any external influence. Indeed, this is also the impartiality on my part. PS...... Besides, one who understands and follows the concept of impartiality shall not judge, belittle nor condemn someone with any preconceived ideas.

Lao Zi had fleshed his concepts in some of his chapters. We can go flesh them out by going back and review those chapters. PS.... Chapter 5 is a concept of impartiality. We have one of the outstanding members has a good grasp of it. Please read Post #237, page 15. Impartiality

How about a neo-bill with pseudo-Tao on it.....???

What do you know.......???

It's kind of late for me to do this primitive kind of work at the present moment. If Lao Zi didn't create Tao with his words, then, there was no Tao.

Understand the contents in the TTC is understanding the concept. Where do you think the concept came from....?

Lao Zi wrote the book, not me.

Not with Lao Zi...!!! That was not how he sees Tao.

3. 無,名天地之始。 3. Invisible was the name given to Tao at the origin of heaven and earth. The reason that I have to use the word "invisible" for the character "無", wu, was due to the difficulty of choosing a proper word for the translation. As Marblehead has indicated: Wu = mystery=potential The words mystery and potential are only descriptive words for Tao rather than a given name for Tao. Now, for a better understanding, let's look at the meaning of "Wu". Wu means none; nothing; don't have; non-exist; nothingness. However, Lao Zi uses the character very differently. He wanted to call Tao "Wu" at the beginning of the heaven and earth (the universe). Wu, here, doesn't mean none; nothing; don't have; non-exist, nothingness but invisible with high potential creative power. Tao is always exist, Lao Tze wanted to distinguish Tao in two states of presence which are invisible and visible as indicated in Lines 3 and 4 of Chapter One. 4. 有,名萬物之母。 4. Visible was the name given to Tao as the mother of all things. I'm glad that you have no problem with that......

That is true but that is not what I am against. The thing that was it is "then" and "now". Since we understand what is "now" which supersedes the "then", then, why are we still using the "then" old concept. Why not use the "now" concept to make the "then" less skeptical.

Zhe.... I would like to have your valuable comment on Post #131, Page 9 of this thread. Thank you.

I have no problem with your wordy response because it was expressed explicitly with great skill. Well, you were not looking for the hole nor the hare in the first place until you saw them and registered in your mind. Then, you know what to look for to find them again. Everything was there waiting for you the see as long they are there in the first place. However, if you've looked at them long enough, then you will see the true picture. Unless you don't want to see what you want to see but to see what somebody else wanted you to see. "Full of desire, you see its manifestations." Is not the correct interpretation! What it's really saying was you only see the "manifestations of your own desire" rather than its own(Tao's) manifestations. Another words, you are only seeing what you wanted to see instead of what Tao want you to see. Edited: Shown in bold.

You got that right! That was not your opinion but your best understanding. That is, also, the understanding of the most knowledgeable native scholars too. Welcome to TTB. PS.... We would love to hear your understand of other chapters too!

Beyond that is all imaginary for theoretical and instructional purposes.

It sounds like this dog is very protective for its master. I had a German Shepard before. When someone approach or touch me, he makes a warning sound but not aggressive like this. Indeed, the problem is the dog but not you.