ChiDragon

I think someone already had a Noble prize for it. I will find his name again to tell you who he is.

I am only borrowing western science to fill in the Chinese missing part. That's all, folks!

Western science is explained to the microscopic level, that's why it is valid. Chinese so-call science is only macroscopic and fictional. I can use cellular respiration to explain how the body energy is generated. It is by muscle contraction. From the Chinese point of view, energy only known as chi. I cannot find any justification, but only by the word of mouth. PS I am only borrowing western science to fill in the Chinese missing part. That's all, folks!

之说=之谓=it says

What is ND?

What does it mean by return and regain? It was said that I had gone but returned. It was said that I had lost it but regained it.

《太乙金華宗旨》 《太乙金華宗旨》的主旨是煉精化氣，書中沿襲道教固有的「閉精」說，又加以發揮，主張「精」或「血」得先變為「氣」，循環體內，以製成肉體不死之丹。書名中的「太乙」，是指宇宙原初的清新完美狀態。 "The Goal of Taiyi Jinhua" The main thrust of "The Goal of Taiyi Jinhua" is to refine qi. The book follows the inherent Taoism of "closing the essence" and uses it to advocate that "essence" or "blood" must first become "qi" and circulate in the body to make the immortal pill of the flesh.The "Taiyi" in the title of the book refers to the original fresh and perfect state of the universe. 英文翻譯 [编辑] 英文版现有两个版本： 一个是早期由卡利·贝恩斯依据卫礼贤的德文版翻译的，另一个是1991年由托馬斯·克利里(Thomas Cleary)翻译出版。 这两个版本之间存在很大的差异。卫礼贤依据的是他中国老师劳乃宣 （Lau Nai Suan）所教授的内容，而湯姆斯·克里爾立是作为一个成就卓著的学者依据他自己的理解翻译的。 English translation There are two versions of the English version: one was translated by Cali Bains in the early days based on Wei Lixian's German version, and the other was translated and published by Thomas Cleary in 1991. There are big differences between the two versions.Wei Lixian is based on the content taught by his Chinese teacher Lau Nai Suan, and Thomas Creel translated it as an accomplished scholar based on his own understanding. 〈光明初聚〉-- 第1階段的冥想圖示 卫礼贤的翻译来自于他在中国老师劳乃宣 （Lau Nai Suan）的传授，在那里学到了经典的中国哲学。基于他从他的老师那里学到的东西，卫礼贤更注重描述《金花的秘密》中的阴性思想。而克里爾立的翻译更注重学院派的阳性思想。荣格为卫礼贤的两本主要中国哲学书籍《金花的秘密》和《易经》作的序中都提到了中国哲学的这种性质。但是克里爾立几次批评卫礼贤的翻译版本的真实性。 Wei Lixian's translation came from the teaching of his Chinese teacher Lau Nai Suan, where he learned classic Chinese philosophy. Based on what he learned from his teacher, Wei Lixian paid more attention to describing the negative thoughts in "The Secret of the Golden Flower".Creel's translation pays more attention to the positive ideas of the academic school.Jung mentioned this nature of Chinese philosophy in the preface to Wei Lixian's two major Chinese philosophy books, "The Secret of the Golden Flower" and "The Book of Changes".However, Creel criticized the authenticity of Wei Lixian's translated version several times.

Are we wasting cyber space?

This is where everybody is getting the information from? From one's opinion and one book. Even though, the original alchemy method works. However, the concept of alchemy is still fictional. It was just a way for the Taoists to convince themselves by showing how the method works. We had discussed some place along the line here in TDB, but the subject just keep coming back with a new comer.

Well, generating and transmitting energy is not from learning. When the body moves require muscle strength to support the movements, where do you think your energy is coming from. I know most people will say from Chi. Then, where is Chi coming from? Of course, it is from the universe. By waving the hands and chi will be absorbed into the body. Then chi will surface on the skins to exert as external energy. Is that what you want me to believe? That's great as long it works for you. Believe it anyway you like! I only go with modern science. Peace!

內丹：Neidan is a Taoist method practiced by meditation for good health to prolong life. 丹田: dantian is a location for the abdomen. 丹: dan is red color; a powder substance as in medicine. 丹的本义指朱砂，古时常用朱砂作绘画颜料，也可入药。 The original meaning of Dan is Cinnabon. In the ancient, people used it for painting. It was also used for medical purposes.

Are these concepts you had learned by the word of mouth? Okay, I know where are these concepts come from. They are from the traditional Taoist and TCM concepts. At the time, they have no scientific knowledge of biology but only physiology. People still take those traditional ideas for granted. Since I am scientifically oriented, I must deal with modern science to have more positive explanations. I don’t want to be living in a confusing world and accept things as I told. If I don't know anything about muscle contraction, I would go read something about it to be more positive. PS All the body energy are coming from within the muscles. I don't know how to define external strength, unless, it was an external force. I would define an external force is from an external source, such as an opponent.

When Dantian was not spicified, it was assumed that was referred to the lower dantian.

Okay! I found it, here is how Wing Chun develop the internal power (整勁). Again, by exercising the body muscles and joints will activate all the body cells to function as they should to keep the body intact. It is definitely will increase the internal strength.

Wing chun(詠春) @ 2:37 practice Fajin also. I need to find out how do they develop the Jin in the body from practice.

liuhebafa(六合八法 ) Practicing at moderate speed. The exercise this Sifu is doing by just moving to activate all the muscles and joints. Based on the cellular respiration thoery, a slight contraction on the muscles will active the mitochondria to release the energy from ATP. Due the demand of energy, constantly, exercising the muscle, the mitochondria density will be increased in the cells to meet the energy requirement. BTW Taji has the same effect while the practitioner doing the body movements at a much slower speed.

Bajiquan(八極拳 ) @3:12 The master is demonstrating the 靠 technique by using the shoulder to Fajin . @0:41 The Sifu talks about the dantian. Most masters said the strength is coming from the dantain. Regardless, the abdomen must be contracted inward with a horse or bow stance. It was commonly described as 氣沉丹田(Chi sink to the dantain). At the moment, a deep breath was taken. Since the abdomen was contracted, then, it was known as reverse abdominal breathing(RAB). One should have had noticed, every time, a martial artist always do RAB before making a strike. They said all the energy came from the dantian. However, it is not so, sinking chi to the dantian is to contract all the muscles to exert the internal strength more effectively. Besides contracting the muscles, turning the waist at the point of strike will give a torque of the upper torso. That is the major factor in Fajin. In other words, beside contracting the muscles, torquing the waist is the key in Fajin to exert the maximum power. PS For those who do not believe in muscle contraction is the key factor in generating the internal strength. Please do not bother to argue. I only believe in science not fictional descriptions of any kind. So, peace in us.

XinyiQuan 心意拳 Practice at moderate fast speed.

武當八卦掌 Practiced at moderate speed which is ok to develop Jin in the body.

So, 趙堡太極拳, it is! How long have you practiced?

So, which one of the styles that you do practice?

Okay! How do you define external physical force in your own words? Please don't just give me a video! Thank you!

Is that your final answer?

Yes! Internal force was understood as an immense force(勁) exerted by any part of the body. The maximum power was exerted in the most effective way.

I knew you will going to come up with that. The five elements are the names given for the basic moves of xingyiquan. Taji has given a name to each basic move too. The Fajin moves are incorporated in the basic moves. However, special names were given to each technique of Fajin for distinction. The taiji Fajin moves may be the same as the basic moves but each with a unique name. These are the eight unique names for Taiji Fajin 掤、捋、挤、按、采、挒、肘、靠. They may be correspond to the some basic moves with other names. We have talked about what Fajin is. Now is about time to talk how to Fajin. I think all the system do Fajin the same way. Would you like to going into that?