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Mantak Chia's Iron Shirt; good or bad practice
ChiDragon replied to norbu's topic in Daoist Discussion
Sorry, Kevin, that I had given you some invaluntary information......... -
Mantak Chia's Iron Shirt; good or bad practice
ChiDragon replied to norbu's topic in Daoist Discussion
Well, if you google ιεΈθ‘« or ιθ‘«, then you will be a big difference. Ever since I was a kid, I have known the term ιεΈθ‘« for a long time. However, it sounds better in English as "Iron Shirt". It doesn't sound very good in Chinese, but ιεΈθ‘« is. When it comes the translation of the Chinese terminologies into any language, I had found that there is always a variation due to the language difference. The first stage of "iron shirt" requires the practitioner to know Qigong, then Neigong, in order to practice the final Hard Gong(瑬ε). Another thing that is the people in different parts of China do use a different term for the same thing due to the locality. There was really nothing official about it. Even though there is Standing committee resolutions of the Chinese congress to set up the standards, but the local people still do not pay much attention to it but stick to their own terminology. -
Mantak Chia's Iron Shirt; good or bad practice
ChiDragon replied to norbu's topic in Daoist Discussion
hehehe....... It was only a matter of language. Actually "iron cloth shirt(ιεΈθ‘«)" is the same as "iron shirt". The two names came from the same source but they just sound better in each language. It was the keyword "iron" only matters. ιθΊ«εζ³ tieshen gongfa, ιζ tieshan and ιζε tieshangong are the same. It is only a matter of description. AN iron-shirt Qigong is THE iron-shirt Qigong. Sorry, for all the confusion....!!! -
Mantak Chia's Iron Shirt; good or bad practice
ChiDragon replied to norbu's topic in Daoist Discussion
FYI..... ιεΈθ‘«, iron cloth shirt, is the official Chinese term. It is an independent form from all other martial arts. It was considered as a Nei Kung because the force was issued internally to repel anyone who is within the effective perimeter of the practitioner. Nei Kung(ε §ε) supports Hard Gong(瑬ε) because nothing can penetrate through the body of the practitioner. In addition, the initial practice of iron cloth shirt(ιεΈθ‘«) starts with Chi Kung(ζ°£ε) with the basic fundamental breathing method as described by Vatilii or the UMB by yours truly. -
This happens all the time in Tai Ji, as a matter of fact, when a Tai Ji practitioner has both legs on the ground is always in a horse stance position as the basic requirement. The deeper the stance which is the higher level of practice.
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This part is uncertain, some people said under this condition was considered to be the Big Celestial Circulation or Macrocosmic Orbit. People also speculate that Chi circulate in both directions, clockwise or counterclockwise. However, learning the basic breathing technique was considered to be the Small Celestial Circulation or Microcosmic Orbit. Indeed, all these hypothesis are not verifiable. What works was the breathing that took place to make things work the way as they are.
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Absolutely. Not many people aware of this: the basic breathing techniques as a good starting foundation to begin with.
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Chi Kung - The Ultimate Method of Breathing
ChiDragon replied to ChiDragon's topic in Daoist Discussion
In modern time, "ζ°£ζ²δΈΉη°(sink Chi to dan tian)" is also known as "Dan Tian Breathing" or "Abdominal Breathing" because of the definitions above. In addition, since the diaphragm moves with the abdomen, it is also known as "Diaphragm Breathing". There are more given names that are related to the "Abdominal Breathing" we should be aware of. -
We who recall youth Breathe the source of energy Thanks to mitosis
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Yes, stamina, patience and endurance are exactly how the state of serenity for the mind was trained for self discipline.
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.................................... db...... You are right....!!! It is not relevant to this thread.
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Chi Kung - The Ultimate Method of Breathing
ChiDragon replied to ChiDragon's topic in Daoist Discussion
From a Chi Kung point of view, one who cannot perform abdominal breathing initially, it was considered that the "ren meridian" was blocked. It is because the ren meridian is straight down through the navel and the DT. The first requirement for Chi Kung is to have the breath pass the navel down to the DT with the abdomen fully expanded. When the requirement has been met, it was said to be "Chi sink to the DT(ζ°£ζ²δΈΉη°)" and the "ren meridian" has been cleared. Ever since the "Chi sink to the DT" requirement has been met, it should be performed for regular breathing to have the effectiveness of Chi Kung. Indeed, the first stage of Chi Kung practice has been reached. Some people might argue that is not what they have learned. However, this is very fundamental to understand what Chi Kung is all about for some beginners instead of flooding them with some ambiguous traditional ideas. The best way to prove me wrong is try to practice Chi Kung without the UMB and see how far one can go from there. This is my two cents worth.....??? -
Building inner strength means one's body must be able to exert an immense force, continuously, without getting fatigue. It can be accomplished by practice Tai Ji Chuan or any type of Chi Kung, for a long time, as long as abdominal breathing is involved.
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Yes, thank you. One must be smoking first in order to quit later. If one doesn't smoke to begin with, then how can one quit an nonexistent habit....??? Is that what you were saying.....??? If you were, then you are a gentleman and a scholar again....
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One must has Jin(ε) in order to listen to it. Jin was developed from practicing the basic Tai Ji movements for a period of time, then goes into push hand(ζ¨ζ) to ting Jin(θ½ε). Jin is from cultivation and Ting Jin is the application, in push hand, to sense to amount of Jin of the other practitioners. Hence, Jin is active and Ting Jin is passive.
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I believe θ½ε(ting jin) is to listen or sense(to be exact) the Jin of the opponent. Jin is something which has to be cultivated rather than the ting jin. Another word, Jin is active while ting jin is passive.
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Inner strength means the energy within the body. The body must be able to generate the inner power to give you the inner strength. To develop the inner strength do like what Protector said about the Tai Ji in practice in the above post. Also ask ζζε about the effect of the slowness in developing the inner strength. BTW The inner strength what you are after is the Jin developed from Tai Ji Chuan.
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Chi Kung - The Ultimate Method of Breathing
ChiDragon replied to ChiDragon's topic in Daoist Discussion
FYI There are all kinds of Chi Kung methods which they had claimed that they have all kinds of special effects. They all work was because they have incorporated the common denominator, UMB, in the methods. Without the common denominator, otherwise, nothing will work whatever the claims were. I can assure you that. -
No Taoist is a bad Taoist. That is why Taoist carries a sword. Sometimes the sword has to be withdrawn from the sheath to defend oneself.
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Good answer, it was very inclusive. I was expecting a more specific answer by narrowing down to one. Since you have listed them all, I'll accept it as is. Thank you very much for your time and effort for answer my questions. Anyway, you do know your stuff.
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Thank you! Was the "jin" developed during the different types of jin training or from other previous practice methods......???
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Is there really a special separate training of internal power in Tai Ji Quan and how it was trained......???
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What do you think inner strength is......??? Do you have your own description or definition.....???
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A fast form for fa jin. What does "Fast" mean...??? Does it mean that the motion of the form is fast or it speeds up the ability for the practitioner to fa jin.....???
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Is there a difference which form to be taken first.......??? May I take the fast form before the slow form....???
