ChiDragon

Ok sorry! What it is saying, in general, was pertaining to Neidan. It was written in classic format. The esoteric Taoist interpretation is: Since there are 精氣神(Jing chi shen) inside your body to make elixir already, then, why should one be wasting time to hunt for it externally. 長生藥: Immortal herbs were implicating 精氣神(Jing chi shen). It is because they are the main ingredients or three treasures for Neidan.

Did you learn this in Tao school? Which one was that? I want to go there too.

性: xing; cultivation of the mind 命; ming; cultivation of the body. It was known as 性命雙俢; the cultivation of xing and ming.

@Cobie You did not put the 自 in your thought. It seems to be it was a humorous sciatic remark meant for me. It was hinting that I was wasting my time in explaining what Neidan is to everybody.

Haha! Are you trying to tell me something? PS I rather be a fool with my own wisdom. I will not try to make people smart again.

Thank you for this little bit of information leading us to the right direction! Every little bit helps to find its way to the truth.

I will try to follow your logic. However, it might be difficult for me. It is because the truth is the truth. What else could it be. Anyway, thank you for your truthful advice.🙏

Hahaha I am not new here at all. I was banned about three times already by telling the truth. PS Ofc my truth may not be somebody else's truth.

Okay! If you all have make up your mind of what you had injected. I'll quit from here before I get banned. Peace on TDB.

First of all, I didn't say that the Daoist scriptures mislead people too, but the translation done by a layman is. To answer your last question. The reason is I want to test how accurate that AI is responding to my proper questions. It is because I understood what qigong and neidan are all about.

I see where you get your information. However, I know where my contradicting is coming from. Anyway, you are entitle to believe what you have encountered. From my understanding, it contains misinformation that is very misleading.

I see! What you are saying that I should not have initiated the OP to ask the question then!

Well, how do you describe the method of Neidan in your own words? Besides "oh boy". In your own understanding, what is Neidan? How do you practice? If one knew it so well, why not shed some light for us?

It seems to me that the OP is very clear about what it is asking. Somehow, the rest of the input and questioning seem to be out of context.

I have translated what Neidan is many times. Who pays attention to it? Neidan is a known method of Qigong defined by the ancient Taoist. It is not just my understanding, but that is the method. The above post that you had cited "Lü Dongbin asked his teacher Zhongli Quan" does not describe the Neidan method. I don't understand the last paragraph. I just want to know how people view Neidan and their understanding. So far, I have not seen anyone have a good description of Neidan as compared to the Chinese text.

I don't see that there is any conflict, but I don't see what is the significance of the combination for the practice. They are separate methods. Thus they can be practiced separately.

Please state your method of Neidan. So we can compare it. Don't cite something that you don't really understood.

If I can read the original native version, then, why should I read someone's translation? PS The translation is confusing like hell. What is actually the real method in simple words? Who practiced with good results?

That is not what I think it is, but it is. Tighten up anus is optional, it only good in doing some demos.

Did you know Neidan is a form of Qigong? The people in the west could never distinguish the two.

LDT breathing is the key to all Qigong method. In Chinese term, Qigong, 气功, is the method of breathing. If you used other definition for Qigong. Good luck in you achievement. BTW The Chinese Taoist had defined LDT breathing for Neidan as follows: LDT breathing is done with reverse breathing. Of course, the normal breathing has to overcome in perfection first. Then, perform the reverse LDT breathing, hereinafter, doing the Neidan practice.

Yes, air is a very important element. In TCM, It was considered to be a postnatal qi. It is the main source of external qi to make Neidan work for you. It provides oxygen to your body. Please keep this in mind. That is the key to success of Neidan practice.

The Neidan Qigong method will do the job for you. FYI Any kind of Qigong will do if the LDT breathing was involved. However, Neidan was specially emphasized for cultivating Prenatal Qi. Please follow the discussion about Neidan on the Forum.

Welcome! Please do!🙏

I have doubt in that as a Taoist practitioner. Thanks!