ChiDragon

Yes, the original idea of qi stagnation was induced for the explanation of stagnation along any point of the meridian by the TCM practitioners. However, I would be taken the definition of the former more literally than the latter. Is fair to say that the dysfunction of the organs can cause, along any point of the meridian, all sorts of other symptoms such as pain, heat, phlegm, ect....??? Based on your understanding, would you say that the meridians are located along the nerves of the nervous system....???

The 5 elements only tell you about the interrelationship between organs. What helps what and what oppose what. The state of stagnation is the malfunction of an organ which will not be giving aid or helping the next organ as its counterpart. It depends on the magnitude in the state of stagnation, the function of an organ may be partially or fully dysfunctional. Liver qi deficiency simply means the lack of ability for the liver to perform its function.

To find the wind and catch her shadow are not an easy thing to do.

Yes, it will, only Chi Kung will bring you to the place of mental clarity that you are looking for. The anxiety will go away and bring you to a place of peace and harmony. If you do it only one way and go by my definition of Chi Kung. If you're really interested, PM me.

Muscle/tendon pains are involved with the nerves in the muscles. It is more physical then internal. The best way is to have acupuncture or acupressure treatments. Normally, there are some points of reflection away from the pain area. I think they are called the reflexo-points. I have found this on the internet sometime ago: Theory of Reflexology

I know what that means by deprived of Co2 but do you....??? What kind of breathing do you have in mind......??? And what is the Buteyko breathing method.....???

This not more than I want. I heard what you had said, already, all the time. It seems to me that we are living in a world with double standard. There is a thing about "qi stagnation". The latest official definition of "qi stagnation" in the modern Chinese literature is this: One of the definitions of "Qi" is the function of an organ. "qi stagnation" was defined as the function of the organ is not functioning normally. Thus when the liver qi was at its state of stagnation, it was considered to be that the organ is malfunction. Have you ever heard of this definition in your TCM school.....???

You have answered your own question before you ask....???

Thank you very much for responding. Good, I have noticed that you had said "qi and energy". Are qi and energy two separate entities to you....??? Thnx.

lienshan... Forsake knowledge Forget wisdom Forsake wisdom Forget knowledge For that being said, then how do you justify the following statement.....??? 2. People benefited hundredfold.

Very good, Stosh. I am glad that you are really reading into the thoughts. Also, I am glad that it doesn't make sense to you. It is because the message was there for your to grok but you just did not have to proper knowledge to comprehend it. You are right about the "Te" is not equating to our 'virtue' (trait of goodness). The TTC has a different definition. "Te" means those who follow the Principles of Tao was considered to have the "Virtue of Tao", 道德(Tao Te). Just Like you said, it should have anything to do with Confucius. The Virtue of Tao is different from the "trait of goodness". In following your proper thinking, The tile of the 道德經(Tao Te Ching) should be translated as "The Classic of Tao and Te" It is because the Tao Te Ching comprise of two part. One part talks about Tao and the other is Te. Thus the native scholars called the original Lao Tze as 道德經(Tao Te Ching). However, it must not be confused with the Tao Te in the philosophy of Confucius. PS.... Again, Stosh, you are a respectable scholar and a gentleman in my book......

Thank you very much for your time and explanation. Sorry, I am picking your brain. I just curious how the TCM is understood in the west. I have one more question for you. Just by the description of the liver, alone, has a big contradiction with the western science. Without treating the liver in the meridian system, what is your understanding about the function of the liver from your TCM study.....???

dmattwads..... I have a question for you. Have you ever compared the discrepancy in the functional descriptions of the internal organs between the TCM and the western science.......??? If you have, do you see any contradiction which might affect your thinking in the practice of TCM....???

Please teach me how to get rid of my wisdom and knowledge. It seems quite possible to you.... Chapter 19 Verbatim translation: 1. 絕聖棄智(jue sheng qi zhi)， 2. 民利百倍(min li bai bei)； 1. Extirpate intelligence discard wisdom, 2. People benefited hundredfold. Literally, that is what it says in line 1: "Extirpate intelligence discard wisdom," Based on this translation, the people will become dummies. Can people really benefited hundredfold.....??? Do you think a wise man with wisdom would have such thought and make such unwise statement....? If one goes into next next level of thinking, one would see it differently. 1. 絕聖棄智(jue sheng qi zhi)， 聖言(sheng yan2) has a dual meaning: 1. sagely words; 2. pseudo-cleverness(a smart ass). 智(zhi)has a dual meaning: 1. 智慧(zhi hui4): wisdom; 2. 智巧(zhi qiao3): deceitful act with fraud. The second definitions are the most appropriate translation. 1. Extirpate infallibility discard fraudulence, 2. People benefited hundredfold. An alternative: 1. Forsake dishonesty discard smugness 2. People benefited hundredfold.

Yes, I understand that. However, in the TCM Kidney Meridian System, the kidney is the still the dominant organ which is effecting the whole subsystem.

I believe that Universal does not have a kidney problem. According to him, his pain was from an injury. Therefore, it is an isolated case.

It is because that the definition of Tao is defined in the Tao Te Ching which cannot be ignored in the course of studying the TTC scholarly. Somebody else might be interested, therefore, we must have an answer to be available.

Oh...I was responding to imformer24....in the other thread.

Would you please put this into simple English....???

This was my question for the precious thread to begin with. Since it was a myth to me, so I did not follow up on it.

May I know which part is Buddhist speak...??? I am curious to know from your view of point....

It seems to me that newTaoist is looking forward to set up an altar for the Taoist religion. It seems to me that sree wants to have an altar sat up first; then looking forward to worship something.

ME...You are very close. It is hard to say that was grammatical rule in classic but logic. Classic: 民莫之令而自均。 Temporal: 人們不須指使它而自然均勻。 English: The people do not need to be given instructions; but they are naturally equal. 令: command(命令); instruction(指使) , to make it(使它) happen.

Yes, the space of hollowness is significant which is what was made the wheel functional.

I am not sure what is this western term of "grounding" means. I believe I had seen a picture with a piece of wire attached to the mattress where someone was sitting on for meditation. What I want to know is that for the purpose of discharging the electrostatic current to the ground....??? Is that what it means by "grounding".....???