ChiDragon

WMJ....... If Wu Wei is not even be an intellectual concept or philosophy, then how one acts in the state of Wu Wei all the time....??? Lao Tze wrote the Tao Te Ching based on the whole Concept of Wu Wei. What does Lao Tze or you mean by the state of Wu Wei then....??? Nature may not benefit its self, but it does so for others by providing foods, air, and dwelling shelters for humans.... Don't you think.....???

Yes, you are correct as ordinary thinking. If you follow Lao Tze's philosophical thinking, then it would be a different story. You see, with his wisdom, he likes to look at things in a negative sense to present his positive view. This is why many people read the Tao Te Ching paradoxically and misunderstood him. Would you like to put some thoughts into this and test your mental power...???

Wu Wei does not mean "non doing" anything at all. Philosophically, it simply means do not do anything adversely.

LaoTze was born around 571 BCE and wrote the DDJ in his seventy's. 孔子(Confucius): 551 - 479 BCE. Tao Te Ching Time table 老子 LaoTze Born: Around 571 BCE. 道德經 Wrote DDJ: 500 - 491 BCE. 郭店 Guodian 476 – 278 BCE; Unearthed:1993; Published: May 1998 馬王堆-甲本(MWD-A) 206 – 195 BCE; 篆書(Seal style); Unearthed:1973 馬王堆-乙本[MWD-B] 194 – 180 BCE; 隸書(Official Style); Unearthed:1973 河上公(Heshang Gong) 179 – 157 BCE 王弼(Wang Bi) 226 – 249 CE 傅奕(Fu Yi) 555 – 639 CE 漢朝 - 皇帝 Emperors of Han Dynasty 高祖 - 劉邦 Liu2 bang1 206 – 195 BCE 文帝 - 劉盈 Liu2 ying2 194 – 188 BCE 惠帝 – 劉恆 Liu2 heng2 180 – 157 BCE Note: These two characters 恆 and 恒 are the synonyms.

To an ordinary person, a peace of mind is to have a mindset which something will not adversely happen to oneself. Thus the mind will be at ease. To a Taoist, to have a peaceful mind is being having the mind to attain the state of serenity at all times. It is different from having a peace of mind as a temporarily wishful thinking. As oppose to the state of serenity, it is permanent. Mentally, by knowing the facts of things will eliminate the uncertainty of the truth in all matters. Thus no wishful thinking to cause any doubts in one's mind which gives a less chance of interrupting the state of serenity. In deed, any interruption in the state of serenity will cause mental problem which is anxiety or worries. Mental problem is the worse thing that could happen to one's health. To prolong one's life can be done mentally and physically with exercise. To begin with is to have a state of serenity in the mind, then improving the heath of the body. Both condition can be done simultaneously by practicing Chi Kung. Chi Kung has been known as the ultimate method of breathing to a Chinese Taoist(please, no racist remark was intended, Taoist's honor). Edited to add: PS..... This post was intended for the OP and was not addressing to other issues by others in this thread.

Hi, alleswasderfallist Yes, you are right about that. In the example below, Line 1 with the 也, it would make the two phrases become an IF-THEN statement. 1. 道可道也非恆道也 If Tao can be spoken, then it is not the eternal Tao.

The OP is not looking for Tao but "what a Taoist does physically that makes him a Taoist.".....

How many straight answers should there be.....???

Universal......??? How come informer24 cannot find his answer anywhere and no one gave him a straight answer....??? Let's face it, I'm only trying to be realistic and bring out the truth in reality.

That is why this thread was created due to lots of misunderstanding or no info was readily available. Based on my intuition from staying here in the forum long enough, it seems to me only a Chinese Taoist would know what the "N" word means.

Living with Nature doesn't mean to find a cave to be lived in. It simply means eat the right foods and breathe the air which provided by Nature and be natural going about with things. Again, Wu Wei is the key to be a Taoist. Taoist cannot run away from Nature whether one likes it or not. PS..... I am only answering the question pertaining to the OP as a Taoist. Any response from a non-Taoist might be distracted or distorted to the thread.

自備, self-providing or preparing 自得, self-attaining or obtaining 自極, self-ultimate..........................??? 自正, self-correcting 自定, self-determinate 自名, self-naming 自化, self-influence or digest 自極 has multi-meaning

A Taoist will integrate oneself with Nature to preserve life for longevity. This is the goal of a Taoist. Now, it is time for you to begin search to find out how to do it..... I'll give you a hint...!!! First, it is to have a peaceful mind to start with. Find the truth about everything, and disregard any fallacies.

Welcome....!!! Sofia....

ME.... I am glad that you are making progress in your study. It seems to me you are getting a grasp on the compound characters.... 自然 means natural; automatically as is by itself(like you have it in the above post). I think lienshan was confused with the phonetics. He thought that 燃 is 然.

道(Tao, tao) means "that's the way it is" whether one can explain it or not.

You just have to go lower than what it is right now progressively; but no more than 90 degrees in your ZZ practice. This is the only thing I could think of.

I think it is a matter of the open-mind-ness of a person. It is the case that some people can while others cannot. If you assumed it is difficult to accomplish, then it is. Your action will tend to follow your own thoughts per Protector's quote above.

If you can stay low, your legs are in good condition already. BTW It is not easy to do low stance. The simplest way to accomplish low stance is from the practice of Zhan Zhuang. The hardest way is from Tai Ji Chuan or go slow on other styles.

"when rotating in worship of heaven, the great void saves us from the hardship of existence." to Chinese 在祭天时旋转，巨大空白，为我们节省了存在的困难。 Zài jì tiānshí xuánzhuǎn, jùdà kòngbái, wèi wǒmen jiéshěngle cúnzài de kùnnán.

"when rotating in worship of heaven, the sound of thunder is everywhere and transforms everything" to Chinese 旋转时，在祭天时，雷鸣般的声音无处不在，转化一切 Xuánzhuǎn shí, zài jì tiānshí, léimíng bān de shēngyīn wú chù bùzài, zhuǎnhuà yīqiè

How did you do it or how do you stand with your leg position.....???

There is virtue of human conduct(Confucian). There is virtue of Tao(Lao Tze).

"Laozi is a very late addition to taoism." Lao Tze's Taoism is different from other Taoism. He made the original definition of Taoism to redefine to distinguish from his Taoism.

The former on the religious side are: Of Nature For Nature By Nature The philosophical side: The scholars who are mainly concerned with the interpretation of the principles in the Tao Te Ching. They are the ontology, humanity and government. The latter is too broad to say anything about it.