ChiDragon
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The rain drops into the soil. The soaking soil becomes loosen and causing a land slight. As a result, all the rocks and trees are fallen off into someone's house. All this happening by Nature is called a natural disaster but that was all Ziran(自然).
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Yes, you do indeed....
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The Sage simply knows what and when to do(assuming with no harm done in any way). The "no harm done" must be hidden in the notion, in order, to fit the definition of Wu Wei.
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I'm looking forward to hear what are your new thoughts....
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Please keep in mind interfering or any malice intend is not being Wu Wei.
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Yes, most of the translations about the concept of Wu Wei was to based on the characters other than the hidden philosophy behind it. From a superficial and direct translation of Wu Wei is to do nothing. Most native Chinese without knowing its concept are also misinterpret it that way. However, the "do nothing" or "no action" something to that nature was only half correct. To understand the other half we must add something else to it to make it more logical. Wu Wei is take no action to interfere the nature path of things. Wu Wei implies to let Nature take its course without interference. This is the most basic definition of Wu Wei defined in the Tao Te Ching. By knowing that, one will go a long way with it. Yes, there are more than one chapters in the Tao Te Ching had given in metaphors for its definition.
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Those terms have to come from somewhere. Now you have you own conclusion. Don't you wish to compare your conclusion with the source for a more precise definition and understanding....???
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Yes, but first learn about the Dao and its concepts from the Tao Te Ching which is origin of the source.
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Where did hear about Wu Wei and Ziren....??? How was your source defined these two terms besides your own....???
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Yes, I know you by now. That's why I gave you this..... ............and this
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Please my post again to see if you can read the hidden message.
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Who is asking you....MH.............??? You never spell Ziren correctly........
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A Taoist do not research for Tao but to learn and follow the principles of tao from the TTC. The TTC will tell you what Tao is. Tao has mult-idefinition. If you have learnt all the definitions of Tao. Then you will know Tao and its principles. When you are following and practicing the principles of Tao, then you will become a Taoist.
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Have you come up with the definition of Wu Wei or Zi ran yet......???
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We go find out as much as we can what are out there.
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We have written history precisely recorded by impartial scholars.
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MH.... Correction: takaaki is Chinese, perhaps with a Japanese name.....
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Interpreting classic is not by just knowing the definition of each character but by logic. For example, let use Line 5 from Chapter 7. 7. 是以聖人後其身而身先， 7. Therefore, a sage placed himself behind but ended up in front. Annotation: A virtuous person does not put himself before the people for vainglorious reasons. By hiding in the background in a low profile and get things done without claiming credit, he will be recognized and appraised by the people. Perhaps, may be that was why we don't have enough to study about Loa Tze because he always puts himself behind. In reverse thinking, it's very important in classic interpretation; if a person do something up front and wants recognition, then he will be ended up disregarded and forgotten.
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My apologies. It was a little too hasty on my part......
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Could you be more subjective than that...??? I will disregard this unprovoked comment. Please respect the wisdom of the section. "Chinese language forum where a community of Daoists talk to each other and learn from each other, resulting in a new body of knowledge that is connected to but not limited by the old traditions."
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FYI........ It is/will be a scholarly thread without further interruption. Have we make any derogatory remarks to offend anyone or you since post #46. May I ask kindly please do not attempt to derail this thread. BTW I do not wish to dedicate all my time in defending the thread.
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Yes, there are many undeniable evidence of 道 coming across as a proper noun anywhere in the 81 Chapters of this Classic. I'll start a new thread to go over the chapters where 道 was shown as a proper noun for your curiosity. At first, before I open up the Tao Te Ching, I have no idea what 道 was all about until I've read the annotions and connotation in Chapter One. As you've said, it is inconsistent with traditional Chinese scholarship because it is a piece of a standing alone document written by a Wise man called Lao Tze. Your question was ".....Is this a wise thing to do....???" With LoaTze's incomparable wisdom, indeed, I think he had done such a wise thing.
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Scholastic Study of the Received Version of the Tao Te Ching.
ChiDragon replied to ChiDragon's topic in 道家学说
I am not too please with his choice of words; perhaps, he just want to make his point across. It may have some merits to some but not others. It is only in the eyes of the beholder. Anyway, I would pay my attention to the thought rather than the words. This is only my opinion. Hopefully, we do not throwing out any more opinions into this thread, continuously, beyond repair. -
I think the metaphor in Chapter 11 was saying exactly that. 10.Therefore, "solid" is its benefit; 11.Space is its function.
