ChiDragon

Shenlung.... I do appreciate your thankfulness and the kind words. BTW From the virtuous teaching in the Tao Te Ching: "Given is not to expect something in return". I thank you again for your thoughtfulness anyway. Speaking about gentlemen, it would be quite interesting compare a Chinese gentleman to the gentlemen that you have referenced. Anyway, a Chinese gentleman know as 君子(jun1 tze). A 君子(jun1 tze) was classified as an educated scholar with high morality in conduct. The gentlemen have high regards and respect among themselves. However, they do not open the door for a lady as a gentleman in the west. Unfortunately, there were alot more of the discriminating attitudes are not worth mention for the ancient scholastic gentlemen.

Okay, my question now is do you think that was the right approach. Without trying to slow it down or deepen it, you don't think that you are defeating the purpose of this practice(Chi Kung).....???

Yes, I can say the same(almost, hehehe). @ sree, please stay with us. We had quite a few China men were kicked out of here because they had the same attitude as you but worse. Thus I am the only one that was left here to argue with all the nice understandable westerners ...western gentlemen.....

1. Sorry, that contradicts the impartial concept in Chapter 5 of the TTC for not being Wu Wei(無為). 2. Sorry, that was not the western scientific method is all about. 3. That sounds very impartial on your part but with preconceived ideas. PS.... If you would like to take the non-scholastic approach about the Tao Te Ching, then we can have all kind of BS with endless arguments about it. However, I must decline to participate in such a meaningless approach.

Don't you think that you are contradicting yourself right now....??? What have you learnt from the Tao Te Ching.....??? Now, it is your burden to prove to me what do you know about the Tao Te Ching.....??? PS.... I just realized that all of the above are your fallacies too.......... PPS.... For that being said, anyway, the Tao Te Ching is about 無為(Wu Wei).

Shall we say that there was no such thing as "sleep meditation techniques".....??? Why do people put the word ""meditation" into everything....??? Is it because the word gives one the sense of security in proving of what one knows...?? BTW When one goes to sleep then one sleeps; why meditate....??? If one meditates, then one doesn't sleep. The word "mediation" is driving the people crazy in the west. That is why there was no definite definition which causing a big open loop. As soon the word "meditation" merges, everyone just converge into it with wildest ideas and given craziest names to create multiple false-methods and thought they were the greatest without considering the validity of the methods.

I think it was called "open-mined" with an open heart.....

None of the above. The reason you don't know is because you have not studied the Tao Te Ching thoroughly and start making generalizations from the fallacies made by other people. The question "What?" is up to you to answer after you have studied the TTC thoroughly and realize what it is all about. How can you criticize something that you have no knowledge of....??? PS.... When you first come on board, you'd gave me the impression that you wanted to study the TTC deeply from scratch. By your present behavior, it seems that you have disappointed me greatly....

I grant you by saying that. However, the knowledge in the book do reflect the wisdom of the author. You are making a blanket statement which is not true. Therefore, please speak only for yourself about the latter part of the quote in bold, my friend.......

I am just curious. What do you think that you have accomplished....???

All these are non-contriving....???

oops..... Sorry, I missed you post. I have most of the Chapters translated in the TTC section. If you have any question, I am glad to give you a satisfactory response. Thank you very much for your interest in my pertinent knowledge about the Tao Te Ching. Are you asking me about the translation for 君子(gentleman)"....???

Well, that is the way how a Cantonese normally talks, eloquent but arrogant.......

Marblehead..... Thank you for allowing room in your heart for a Cantonese........

"When our breathing is deep, we can take in more air. When our breathing is slow, we have more time to fully digest the energy within the air." Digest the energy within the air implicates that allowing more time for the red blood cells to pick up the oxygen. Then, the oxygenated blood was delivered to the body cells to generate the ATP.

"If we use our belly to breathe, the diaphragm sinks down, creating more room to hold the air in, thus we can absorb more energy." "Absorb more energy" really implicates absorb more oxygen so the body cells can produce more biochemical energy, adenosine triphosphate(ATP).

sree..... You talked like a real Chinaman.............

"Fire in the belly" is not a meditation. It is only an esoteric term used in TCM to describe some kind of physical condition in the belly. Please don't be concerned with those funny names that people came up with. Stay with the normal breathing method with your nose. Sexual energy depends how do you develop the physical condition of the body. If you have a healthy body, your sexuality will be high. If you are weak, then your sexual energy is weak. So, keep your body in good shape.

External arts are energy consuming during the practice such as running and weight lifting. Both were considered strenuous physical exercises. It may cause body harm. I don't what caused your tendonitis in your right foot. Was it from your running or body weight....??? From a Qigong perspective, Tai Chi is an internal arts which only has minimal stress on the muscles by your own body weight. The best part of it is that the stress of your own body weight was slowly applied to the muscles. As a result, you are slowly building up your muscle tone without excess of stress applied to your muscles which might cause body harm. The unique factor about Qigong is the exercise in breathing which helps to increase the oxygen intake to circulate in the body. In addition, the slow movements will cause your muscles to contract slightly which help to squeeze the blood in the veins; it will speed up the blood in returning to the heart. In a way, this is aiding the circulatory system and have the heart to do less work than normal. Qigong cultivates three things; it regulates breathing, mind and body. Tai Chi is a form of Qigong and body exercise which regulate the muscles. Spontaneously, it will train the mind to control the finest movements of the muscles. Tai Chi will tone your body while helps you to improve your breathing habit. Just keep this simple concept in mind: you breathe you'll live. If you don't, you'll die. Thus if you breathe more, then you'll live longer.

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He sure made a boo boo, didn't he....???

Well, guys.... Sorry. I am not a warlock..............

If Chi was defined as 氧氣(oxygen) in the air, do you still considered that as man-made superstition....???

Do you realize that your belief – no consciousness outside the brain – was formulated when consciousness was looking at the brain and concluded that it came out from the brain? According to your statement, the consciousness came out from the brain. It seems that the consciousness has its own brain or whatever. To me, the consciousness is part of the brain. Without the brain, thus no consciousness. The Chi in the breath is directly to keep the brain alive. As long the brain was being alive, the consciousness would be always there. It doesn't need Chi to light it up.

Those are not new to me. They are already on my screen before you've even posted. I can read what it says. What was bothering me is that didn't say what the English translation says. Not even near.