ChiDragon
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Methodology is only show someone how the do it. Macroscopically, It doesn't help to appreciate more deeply into the art. You can repeat and repeat of what you are doing. However, there is something might be missing from further understanding of the art. That might prevented you from progressing to a hidden level. -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Perhaps, someone didn't grasps the basic principle of Taiji. Peng is not performed by anyone without the training and practice. It is not a thing that can be learnt in one day then there you have it. No, it is not something like that at all. It takes years of practice of Taiji to develop the internal body strength in order to execute Peng. Peng is execute by using the forearm only, The forearm moves in most of the Fajin methods. The is why Peng was considered as the major gesture of Fajin. -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Well, you are talking about two methods and styles. Taiji(太極) and ginna(擒拿) both methods are trained differently. The purpose of each do not ended with the same result. Taiji is an internal art and also it's a form of Qigong. Peng is to Fajin by using the internal force to guide someone away while someone is pushing or grabbing. The technique of ginna requires a lot of grabbing. The defense mechanism of peng is by internal strength other than the emphasis on physical grabbing. Peng requires long time of diligent practice of Taiji to condition the body muscle to build up Jin. Jin is what gives the tremendous internal force for Fajin. Thus Peng is only a technique to Fajin. It happens to be appeared in most of the methods of Fajin. So to speak, you are comparing apples and oranges! -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
The nervous system and fascia are actively engaged and sensing the unfolding patterns. At this point, you have gone into the next higher level of fajin(發勁), It is to sense someone's internal strength by Ting Jin(听勁). I think it's about time having someone leading us into the most subtle subject in Taiji. I think you are knowledgeable about the subject. Would you like to have the pleasure to go into that? Thanks! -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
The ba jin(八勁) is not coming out of nowhere. The reason they were called ba jin was for a reason. The ba jin are the 8 methods to fajin(發勁) at their most efficient and effectively. They were particularly depicted from the whole set of Taiji movements. They are the best methods to exert the body strength that are called jin. It is not anyone can executed such force. It requires long diligent practice to condition the body to do so. Thus only masters at highest level and at best to be performed such methods. It happens to be that peng appears in most of the 8 methods. The other 7 are not ignored. It is only a matter of gesture in performing the fajin methods. -
Chapter 1 The introduction of Tao 1. 道可道，非常道。 2. 名可名，非常名。 3. 無，名天地之始。 4. 有，名萬物之母。 5. 故常無，欲以觀其妙。 6. 常有，欲以觀其徼。 7. 此兩者同出而異名， 8. 同謂之玄。玄之又玄， 9. 眾妙之門。 Revised as of 2-27-12 / 9-28-23 1. Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao. 2. A name that can be named is not an eternal name. 3. Invisible, was a name given to Tao at the origin of sky and earth. 4. Visible, was a name given to Tao as the mother of all things. 5. Hence, when Tao is always invisible, one would grok its quale. 6. When Tao is always visible, one would observe its boundary. 7. These two come from one origin but differ in name, 8. Both are regarded as unfathomable, the most occult and profound; 9. The gate of all subtleties.
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Beside using a good dictionary, you also need someone who speak the language to explain the true context for you. Otherwise, you are still working in the blind. One day, I had dropped by a Chinese book store. I picked a book with the title of "A complete guide of Chi-Gung(氣功)" by Daniel Reid. He is an Englishman. His Chinese father-in-law introduced Chi-gung to him. So, he practiced and decided to write a book about it in English. He wrote the book with the help of many knowledgeable Chi-Gung masters in Taiwan. Especially, his wife, for her astute assistance interpreting esoteris Chinese materials. I was reading his book as I am reading it in Chinese. It seems that everything is flowing in my mind as I knew it already.
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Up in the mountain is a better place for seclusion!
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Aren't lucky you didn't!? I tried that too, but didn't have the courage! How come this time you become so wise?
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Knowing the significance of the principle that comes before the methodology is admirable and noble as a Taiji practitioner. -
Does it matter which one it was used? At least, she picked the right one!
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
There are many members had mentioned having a good teacher is a must. However, a good teacher can guide the student to do all the correct postures. At that instance, the student should discover something about the instruction. Otherwise, if the student just said "ok I got it" with no discovery, then it is a different story. If the student got it without practicing diligently, then there will be no discovery and remain in the non progressive stage. -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
If the body is malfunction to begin with, then it would have to be taken care of by external remedy. Normally, Qigong meditation would help to cure some areas where the trauma occurs. Again. the body is a self healing machine. The body itself is constantly doing body scan to find something to be repaired. Scanning is part of the body function. Taiji are considered as Qigong that may help to heal the body trauma, It is because the movements are soft and not as aggressive as other styles, e.g. the Chen style. -
Mods, would you remove the empty posts. Thank you!
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It seems to be a big issue for someone to understand the concept of Wu Wei. Perhaps it is so esoteric and philosophical. The definition of 無為 is "Take no action that cause harm to interrupt the course of nature." This definition was will defined in the TTC, There are few chapters in the TTC to substantiate it. Have are the some derivatives from the term of Wu Wei that was mentioned in the TTC. 1. 為無為: for Wu Wei; for the sake of Wu Wei 2. 無為而無不為: because of Wu Wei there was nothing that cannot be accomplished. 3. 有無: Take intentional action
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Yes, when the breath is inside the body, we have no control of it. The body will take care itself by carrying out it's function. The only thing we can regulate is the breathing externally. Externally, we can breathe slowly going down to the LDT and slowly exhale. Exhale is more significant then inhalation. So the speak. The reason is that we want to keep the amount of oxygen in the lungs as long as possible. That is the only way to regulate the chi in the body. That chi will be stored in the body as the ancient Taoist claimed. If the chi loses for six minutes, people will die or become brain dead after an rescue. The so called stored chi won't do any good. The experience thought by someone is only an elusive perception of what was taken place inside the body. -
Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Thank you very much for revealing the Taiji secret of discovery. Yes, you are very true about the internal discovery that no one can described as crystal clear as you have. Perhaps the other practitioners have not reached into inner stage. As you said, the teacher can only show you the external skills to help you to discover the internal transformation. People didn't feel the sensation of the internal transformation will never reach the realm of the fine art of Taiji. For example, the teacher always tell the students to breathe naturally as one normally do. At a stage during the practice, if they don't sense any change in the deepness of the breathing was because they were afraid to breathe in too deep is wrong. They couldn't forget what the teacher told them about breathing naturally. They will never realize that their breathing should be lower down to the dantien. Hence, they will never discover what it meant by "sink chi to dantien," 氣沉丹田。 BTW I'm a Yang style Taiji practitioner.- 66 replies
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Chapter 25 1.有物混成 2.先天地生 3.寂兮寥兮 7.吾不知其名 8.強字之曰"道" 1. A thing formed 2. Before heaven and earth were born; 3. Soundless and formless 7. I don't know its name. 8. I'm reluctantly calling it "Tao". The character混 means mix; blend; integrate, form. First of all, let's see what the abvoe lines say: There is a thing was mixed/blend/integrate/formed together before the existence of sky/heaven and earth. It is soundless and formless. I don't know its name. So, I just have to make up a name for it and call it Tao. From the above description, the thing was not a solid physical thing. It is there but invisible. This was substantiated by the introduction of Tao in Chapter 1. 3. 無，名天地之始。4. 有，名萬物之母。5. 故常無，欲以觀其妙。6. 常有，欲以觀其徼 3. Invisible, was a name given to Tao at the origin of sky and earth.4. Visible, was a name given to Tao as the mother of all things.5. Hence, when Tao is always invisible, one would grok its quale.6. When Tao is always visible, one would observe its boundary.
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Sorry, how wrong I was for throwing the book at you!
