ChiDragon

旡: None, nothing, zero, the image is "invisible". 有: something that exists that is "visible".

Even though 天地 did not use here. The logic still holds with 萬 物.

May I see the MWD version?

Why are you looking at an incomplete copy of it?

What stops the Scholars from doing so? It is the logic that dictates the encouragement to make sense out of it.

We are in a Wu Wei mode at all times. Since when, I ask to have permission to grant copyright?

清靜無為

道

It is Wuji to Taij which is yin/yang. Look at the yin/yang symbol. 從 '無' 到 '有'

Well, they have an option to put us on the ignored list. That is what is for. As you say, this is a Taoist forum. Aren't we here to cultivate the concept of Wu Wei after we have learned?

Sure, it’s not only but inclusive. The two was listed only pertaining to where they were applied. Please use your linguistic filter.

Sure, I thought that Steve who asked me the question or that was you?

Oh, you meant the neonatal cultivation of 性(mind)?

Is there another elixir pill? Which one was that?

Sorry, no swallowing is require. In case no one knows. The golden elixir pill was cultivated inside the body by the method of Neidan, 內丹. If one thinks that the swallowed pill is an elixir pill, no, it was an Aspran for headaches

Thank you for your understanding my thoughts. _/\_

I don't mind you always telling me that I am wrong. How about given me a chance to say that you are right? How can you get more ming(命)? You still didn't tell me what ming is by your definition.

No problem. You may ask me anything. I will not be upset. Thank you for the question. Yes, learning a method is important to know where the original concept came from. It is safe for me the say that all Qigong, Neigong, Neidan and Taiji are came from the same concept originated from TCM. TCM Started with the concept of 炁(气), chi. It is a matter, not energy. When the radical 米 added to 气 become 氣. Somehow, 氣 was used to describe lots of concepts. Such as prenatal chi, postnatal chi. This begin with the human body. Then go into the organs. Let's begin with the preservation of the body. The mainly concern of Taoist is longevity. They had came up with the idea of making external pill to preserve life known as external alchemy, 外丹. Somehow they failed. After that, that is when Neidan, 內丹 comes into play. This involves with the three treasures, 精氣神. The Taoist thought preserving these three treasures was by the cultivation with Neidan. The idea of Neidan is by using the postnatal chi to nourishing the prenatal chi by LDT breathing. This is where the original concept came from. I have enough said on the subject on the forum. I don't think I should repeat myself here. By knowing this concept, if I read about any method, they all referred to this concept. However, the description of the methods may be different, but they cannot stay away from the concept, the concept of LDT breathing. If you don't know or don't believe in the concept, then no matter what you read, who you learned from, or what you practice, it may or may not get the full result as intended. Before I practice Taiji I didn't realize how important the breathing was. I had only accomplished half way. When I become familiar the concept of TCM and the LDT breathing method, I have acquired the full benefit of Taiji. The concept of LDT breathing is all over the internet. The Neidan is loud and clear calling out the LDT breading method. The most current definition of Neidan breathing is the reverse LDT breathing. I have took mental note of that. In addition, I always update myself with new valuable information as they come along. BTW This is always the cultivation of 性 and 命. Ofc that is another story.

Ever since the original Neidan concept exited, why should it be gone? It is always there. The concept do not change, only the misinterpretation change it.

I don't understand the way of the terminology that you are using. What is your definition of ming? Yang? Single yang?

It seems you have your logic reversed. It is the other way around. The yuan qi(元氣) is passive. The postnatal is active. The yuan qi will die without the support of postnatal qi. Let me make it clearer. Yuen qi is the source of the body structure. It needs postnatal qi, such as food and oxygen.

Yes, postnatal Qi feeds the prenatal QI. The purpose of Neidan is to use the postnatal Qi to vitalize the prenatal Qi. Since you are asking logical questions, I am glad to discuss this with you!

Well, that too!

Is that a surprise to me? I don't know what your standard is. I didn't have my pleasure hearing it from you. My friend?

Of course not, I have said enough in the other thread already. Nothing would be new to me anymore.