ChiDragon

That's all it takes.......

Mr. Marblehead... Would you like to try Chapter 32 with Michell's fabricated story....???

I am a 22 year old engineering student. I came upon this site while researching about Qi and Qi gong. I have been experiencing anxiety and depression since my teenage years, I only realized it during my late teens though.( I remember being outraged when being told this, that seems so unfair, aren't anxiety and depression supposed to be opposite energy states? ) I came across mindfulness meditation a couple of years back, and it is has somewhat helped me deal with my emotions. A couple of problems with it though, although I was able to deal with my emotions better, the anxiety and depression didn't seem to go down by much. Another problem is that I feel drained every time I meditate for more than a few minutes, I see people saying that meditation is a perfect start for the day, I seem to require more sleep after meditating, and all I am doing is trying to be aware of my breath. A few days back I came across this book: http://www.amazon.co...e way of energy I was really skeptical about it, but after trying it out, I am really impressed. I don't know whether this is the right place to ask these questions, but here I go anyway: 1. I have been doing the basic standing position and the holding the balloon position for the past couple of days, however I have been exceeding the recommended 5 minutes for the beginner because it feels so good. I also have been doing it for a couple of minutes here and there throughout the day, because it is so relaxing and energizing at the same time. Is this fine, or is it going to prove harmful further down the line? It is fine for you as long as it was not causing you any discomfort of any kind. 2. I suffer from Asthma, and the author recommends doing the 8 Pieces Of Brocade exercises to help dealing with the condition, but in another section he also says that one starts with these exercises after practicing the first two positions for a couple of months, in order to prepare the body for more energy. Should I wait for a couple of months or is it okay if I start doing the exercises now itself? As long as you learn to breathe, nothing else matters. Breathing exercises will help you to clear your breathing passages. Only breathing will give you energy. Just by doing the 8 Pieces of Brocade exercises will not. In your Asthma case, you must learn to breathe. 3. Is Zhan Zhuang as taught by the author in The Way Of Energy sufficient for maintaining Qi fitness(okay, I really don't know the right term for it), or do I need to supplement it with other exercises to obtain and maintain optimum mental and physical health? Are there any Qigong exercises that can help me with my anxiety and depression? I am at a stage where I would like to work really hard, but seem to lack the energy and focus. No, you do not need to supplement it with other exercises to obtain and maintain optimum mental and physical health. Any QiGong will do as long as you have the patience and confidence in yourself to practice with self discipline. 4. I have always been the skeptical type. Are there any forms of Qigong which can convince me of the existence of Qi, by providing fast, indisputable effects? I don't mind if there are side effects, any result would be nice. I have always wanted to believe in things like this, but my mind keeps shooting those ideas down. Any result, even if it is an unpleasant one would help me counter my bullish mind. Nothing will help you to speed up things but practice and practice on you own. Good luck to you.

Here is my counter offer. 1. Those who were using the principles of Tao to assist a ruler, 2. It was said to be not conforming with the principles of Tao. 3. If it was not conforming with the principles of Tao, then, it will come to an early end. In the TTC, Lao Tze was emphasized on the principles of Tao rather than the process of Tao. Zi Ren(自然) was only a background in his Tao philosophy. If Zi Ren was applied to rule the people, then it means no action will be taken upon the people. As oppose to using the principles of Tao, it will lead the people to a certain ideal condition in an orderly manner; and Zi Ren will just let the people be. As a result, they may be disorganized and out of order.

Group of 5 is unknown to me Could be...... 五方谒谛： 1. 金光揭谛、 2. 银头揭谛、 3. 波罗揭谛、 4. 波罗僧揭谛、 5. 摩诃揭谛

Group of 4 with 雷公 [Lei Gong(Thunder God)] and 電母 [Dian Mu(Electric God)] and 2 unknown The 2 unknown are 風伯(Wind God) and 雨師(Rain God). Ref: Chinese legendary deities

Mitchell as always unles otherwise indicated: Chapter 30, Line 1. 1. Whoever relies on the Tao in governing men 12. goes against the current of the Tao. Robert Henricks 1. Those who assist their rulers with the Way, 2. We called this "not the Way." 3. What is not the Way will come to an early end. Classic 1. 以道佐人主者， 2. 是謂不道， 3. 不道早已。 CD: 1. Those who were using the tao to assist a ruler, 2. It was said to be not conforming with the tao. 3. If it was not conforming with the tao, then, it will come to an early end. Note: 1. tao(n): the principles of Tao. 2. 不道(bu dao): not conforming with the principles of Tao. 3. These lines are individual translations for analysis only, thus they maybe out of context. 4. All definitions of compound characters require grokking to get to their finalize meanings.

How about given Chapter 30 a try....???

hehehehe......... Of course you are right, that was only my acceptance in silence.

As you wish......

jb..... You didn't see the conflict in the thoughts between sree and me. Please follow the thread and think carefully before you jump into any conclusion as you had done in the past.

Please explain....!!!

However, there is a fallacy in your thought. Then, how would you ever get out of the meditation mode while you are under the unconscious mode....???

What you are saying is when you are meditating, you are not thinking about anything. Thus you are unconscious. When you are not meditating, then, you are conscious. Thus you will know that you're thinking.

I believe they are the two famous poets from the Tang dynasty, 李白(Li Po) and 杜甫(Du Fu).

Zyril.... Everything starts with by breathing down to the abdomen.

The synapse is a connection between two nerve cells. Don't you think that the nerves would be damaged other than the synapse....???

Subhk....... Welcome. Would you kindly move this to the 道家学说 section....??? Then we can go from there. Thanks..!!!

The right idea was there; but it is not the closest translation. 1. 天下有道， 1. The world under benevolent ruling, The key in this phrase, we do not look at the character 道 individually but compounded with 有. Indeed, that is how we make Tao Into an adjective. BTW This is why I have selected this chapter because a comment made by Sinfest. Let's look at this compound characters..... 有道(adjective): has tao(lower case t); has principles(of Tao) The requires to apply a little logic in the thinking of the reader. Let's say someone who has 道(tao) which has the principles of Tao. The one who has the principles was regarded as a virtuous person. Finally, a virtuous person do virtuous things. If people wants a good ruler, then, most definitely they want a virtuous person to lead them. If a country was ruled by a virtuous person, then, most definitely the country was under benevolent ruling(有道). To put it into context, we have: 1. 天下有道， 1. The world(天下) was under benevolent ruling(有道),

ME... I'll give you a freebee... 常言: the proverb 道 say "常言"道: the proverb says.

Mr. Marblehead.... Are still with me before we get carried away again....????

Sorry, you are just not familiar enough with the language that you are trying to learn. I speak the language more than sixty years; it is more funnier that you are laughing at me..... Am I getting the impression that you are more knowledgeable with the Classic before you really understand it. IMO If you cant get over the hurdle with the definitions of "Tao", then, you are 10,000+++ miles away from it. Edited to give you a freebee... 常言: the proverb 道 say "常言"道: the proverb says.

I give up with your fixed mixture of thoughts. Sorry, I cannot help you anymore.

常言道: As they say Dao to mean spoken

They are the words and samples were used for the explanation. They are classic. Just learn the meanings and keep them in mind. It takes a little time to digest. Something that you are not familiar with doesn't mean that don't exist.