ChiDragon

yiming.... 混沌 means: obscurity; dimness; indistinctness; vagueness. The purpose of having them on his chest, he wants people to know that he is obscure.

Do we want to hear the positive side all the time....??? Let's hear some negatives....!!! Let's see what is in everybody's mind. PS.... Please don't bring the MODs yet....!!!

Does he write about bed chamber arts in there as well? He does has a section on "Working with Sexual Energy" but not very extensive. He did mention "Solo Cultivation which involves sexual self-massage including specific exercises which covered extensively in his previous book The Complete Book of Chinese Health and Healing. While the Dual Cultivation with a partner was presented in detail in The Tao of Health, Sex and Longevity.

hmmm....... Shall I just bow to agree to the things that everybody says here; even it was against my own beliefs....???

Okay... I knew that was coming. I was only respond to the question that was being asked. Teaching and practicing and explanations are different things. As long the practice was done correctly, the effects are the same to me. However, it really doesn't matter how one wants to put it in words. They are just words for the sake of discussion.

Nelida.... You welcome...!!! Nowadays, there are lots of westerner went to China to learn Chi Kung and Tai Ji Chuan. They will teach what they had learned when return to their native lands and probably write books about them in their point of view. The point of view was probably about partial of what they had learned and the rest maybe only their thoughts of what it was. To answer your second questions. That was a dead give away, when someone says Peng has nothing to do with Fa Jin or they are two separate deals....

Thank you for given me some lead way. I'm no authority neither but I can distinguish the two, Peng and Fa Jin. You don't have to buy anything I said. Nobody does here anyway. I am shooting the breeze just for the heck of it...... I know you have exposed and used to the western view about Tai Ji Chuan. However, the eastern view is little bit different than the west. I don't what happened during the transition. Let's say it just happens. If you are interested of what I am going to tell you, that's fine. If not, it is fine too. No hard feelings. Let me try this again with the fundamental basis. If I think peng is 掤, then I can go from here. In Tai Ji Chuan, peng is just one of the four methods in 推手(tui1 shou3 ). Tui Shou was the next level followed by the fundamental movements. The purpose of Tui Shou was learn to Fa Jin. However, the ability to Fa Jin only can be obtained was from the long time practice of the basic movements. I think there was no question why the Chinese people spend so much time in the park for the practice. With that said, if one does not have to ability to Fa Jin, then one cannot peng. Peng has two defensive methods, one is the Upper Peng(上掤) which was to keep the opponent from lowering oneself. The other is Level Peng(平掤) which was to keep the opponent from moving forward toward you. Tai Ji always involve with the concept of Yin-Yang. Therefore, Fa Jin can be used for offensive as well as defensive. Defensive is to Fa Jin in the arms, while standing still, to resist the pushing of the opponent. Offensive is to Fa Jin by moving yourself forward in a short distance to push the opponent away from you. If you are at a higher level of Fa Jin, you don't even have to move an inch; your Jin will do all the work by leaving your body and passed onto the opponent. Now, you should know why that you don't start doing Tui Shou before the practice of the basic movements. By your own testimony "so the difference in how I view and understand things changes and advances with every month I practice" This was a good indication that the Jin is building up in your body.　

No, I mean "grokking". It is not, originally, an English word. Read for yourself. Definition of Grok 意思 is yi si = meaning 通過 thoong kor = through 感覺 ghum ghok = reflect idea feeling 意會 yi wui = comprehension by intuition

dawei.... Where did you obtain this phrase from...??? [德]昏之而弗得命之曰夷 Should it be this....??? 捪之而弗得命之曰夷

You have been enlightened about the art of breathing. I thinking that is what the Chinese called Chi Kung. You have passed the most important first stage of Chi Kung. You had completed the connection between the 任(ren4) and 督(du1) meridians by the definition of the Chinese Chi Kung practitioners. It was also know that you have completed the microcosmic orbit. PS... Breathing in high states of being is the ultimate realm of achievement in Chi Kung. Congratulations...

Grokking 的意思是：通過感覺意會 Something has to be comprehended through the intuitive senses of the mind but cannot be expressed in words.

rene, hi yiming is a very individualistic person. I can understand his behavior was due to the exposure to a different culture. I remember that I had the same behavior once before. Somehow, I think we all have to learn our lessons from a hard way. I hope he will realize, in the near future, that he had been forgiven by the tolerable people, here, in this forum. Thank you. PS... I do not and cannot control over his behavior. He is what he is. I don't think there is any bearing in reflection between me and him.

Nelida... What I am trying to say is practice makes perfect. Somehow, some people are born with the physical capability without the need for a long time practice. I just left that out in my OP and wait for your response to see if that was the case. I think it was. I was only speaking the truth from a fundamental basis without any exceptional case. In your case, may be an exceptional case. Please excuse my bluntness. I'll stay out of your way from here at this moment.

Universal One.... You don't have to do anything special but just enjoy that wonderful feeling. It is a sign of healthiness for a 20 years old youth..

"I know peng is not a fa jin," Based on the statement made bu you, I don't know how long have you been practiced Tai Ji....??? Based on my understanding and experience, without a long time practice, one does not have any jin developed in the muscles. Without the ability to Fa Jin, your peng has no strength. In order to Fa Jin, your body must have a good foundation in rooting to keep your legs stay put on the ground. That will support your body to stay in place while you peng to counteract any external force.

Without the long time practice of the fundamental movements, one will not has any Tai Ji effect at all, at any part of the body, at any time. BTW Peng relies on Fa Jin also.

The answer is yes. All the FaJin was based on the force exerted by the muscles for a long time Tai Ji Practitioner. Only a long time Tai Ji Practitioner can Fa Jin because the Jin can be developed in the muscle, only, by the long time practice of the basic movements. Fa Jin has to be coming from the internal force of the muscles.

Normally, 命令 are compound characters were to be meant "command".

To give you a rough idea why it was so. You see, when something comes alive(有命). We give it a lively name(命名). Thus 命名 becomes to have a meaning of "give it a lively name". Sometimes 命 is short for 命名. Just follow this little logic and I hope it will help you to see how the Chinese thinking are. I think for the same reason as in classic English. Isn't there any word was used in Classic English and not in use now....???

The problem with Etymology is a good source for definitions but it does not distinguish the characters was classic or modern. That's what I meant.

In classic, 命 is the same as saying 名(to name something or someone.) PS.... This is one of the fundamentals has to be known before hand, in order, to understand the classic writing.

I think your thinking is on the right track. However, the word "measure" does not quite fit for something that is invisible.

Good show, it was out of place. FYI... Here is a good reference of the restored copy of the Tao Te Ching(MWD-A). Please go to page 四四九（449）for Chapter 14. 捪之而弗得， 命之曰夷 Ref: Tao Te Ching MWD-A

15. Grasp the past of Tao to be driven all the present physical beings 16. Able to understand the ancient origin, 17. It's called the Principles of Tao. I think this chapter was telling us that even though Tao is invisible but Tao is always around us. By grokking its presence and study its nature, so we'll have some principles to follow.

It could be; but line 2 says all and it can stand by itself without any external definition. 2. 聽之不聞,名曰希。 2. Listen to it couldn't hear, name and call it Soundless.