ChiDragon

While doing slow deep breathing(sink chi to the dan tian): 111 over 67, heart rate 57

Are you any different from that....???

It sounds very specious.

精化氣, 氣化神, 神化虛 神還虛 The character 化(hua4) was translated as "transformed". Hence, Jing was transformed to Chi; Chi was transformed to Shen; Shen was transformed returned to Void. However, based on the logic of these translations, we have the following conditions: 1. When Jing was changed into Chi, then, we have no more Jing left. 2. When Chi was changed into Shen, then, we have no more Chi left. 3. When Shen was changed into void, then, we have no more Shen left. There is a big fallacy in these translations. How should we translate these three phrases to make it logical and correct....??? Hint: The key relies upon how do we handle or translate the character 化(hua4). Note: 神還虛 will not be discussed because it is outside the scope of this thread.

"hua" 化 is 化育; it is more like a chemical reaction rather then "sheng" 生. "jing IS NOT maintened" When you say "jing" which jing do you mean, postnatal or prenatal....??? Are you saying that postnatal jings do not maintain prenatal jings....???

My blood pressure at the present moment is 120/67. PS.... If you are proud of your blood pressure reading; please post it here once awhile. Maybe someone would like to have you to share your practicing experience in maintaining the blood pressure in such good condition.....

FYI only 知(zhi1): to know; knowing; knowledge 智(zhi4): wisdom; smart; tricky in a smart way.

Chapter 5 1. 天地不仁， 2. 以萬物為芻狗。 3. 聖人不仁， 4. 以百姓為芻狗。 Chapter 5 1. Heaven and Earth have no mercy, 2. Treat all things as straw dogs. 3. Sages have no mercy, 4. Treat people as straw dogs. Wu Wei was hidden in these classic text. BTW The Chinese classic were written in codes like a riddle. In this Chapter, Wu Wei was implying the notion of "being impartial". There are two things here which are given the clues about Wu Wei. The two clues are "no mercy" and "straw dogs". 不仁(bu ren): The 仁(ren2) here is 仁慈(ren2 ci2) mercy. Thus "bu ren" is no mercy. 芻狗(chu gou): straw dog In the ancient, a straw dog was used just as a sacred item for sacrificial offering. It was valueable only when it was placed at the altar. Otherwise, people just toss it in a filthy strorage, stepped on or even burnt it. Lines 1 and 2 set an example that Nature has no mercy which was being impartial. Line4 3 and 4 show that an able person(sage) shall follow the principle of Nature by ruling the people impartially. Hence, these four lines had given us a hidden message about Wu Wei.

How can we do spell check...???

Owning a pet is not "interfering". Only when harm was done to the pet is not Wu Wei.

James Liem.... I won't ask you about the nose part....!!! I know it is true with a good understanding on focus on the Dan Tian; but why....???? Do you think you can explain why focus on the Dan Tian would decrease blood pressure....???

No, from the literature I had been reading books and online, AB will not lead me to hypoxia. As I type right now and every second, I am doing abdominal breathing. I know I have abundant supply of oxygen for my body. I believe that is what Chi Kung is all about as my native Chi Kung Practitioners say. Indeed, I feel wonderful as my breaths are going through my respiratory system. I feel great by the minute 24/7....

Hypoxia cause the blood vessels to constrict which cause high blood pressure also.

It was not "Mind your own business" but "Mind my own business". It was not "DO NOTHING" but "NOT DO UNNATURAL THING"

15.Let things be with no interference; 16.Grown without possession. 17.Sustain without domination. 18.Success without dwelling. To you... Line 15 is not "let Nature take its course".......??? Line 16 is not "let Nature take its course"............??? Line 17 is not "let Nature take its course"............??? Line 18 is not "let Nature take its course"............??? BTW You are reading the Chinese Classic, not English. The TTC is given you all the definitions but not for you to create your own definition to cause yourself to misunderstand the meaning of the TTC. Please do not apply your English thinking into to TTC thinking.

12. Always keeping the people innocent without desire, 13. Presumptuous people cannot commit their acts. "by promoting ignorance and encouraging fear." Most people misunderstood this phrase, in line 12, I said most people which include the modern native Chinese also. Keeping the people innocent without desire is simply means: 1. Innocent was meant not to be full of malice thoughts in cunning others. 2. Without desire was meant to be more self contained.

Coldness can be caused by the lack of oxygen(hypoxia) for your metab0lism to generate the body heat to resist the external cold temperature. Hypoxia will cause the heart to pump faster to deliver more oxygen to the body cells to generate the body heat.

Don't you see line 14(s) stated the reason why it is FOR Wu Wei (Wie Wu Wei) .....??? PS... In order to understand the Chinese classic properly, one must read the whole chapter and consider all the pertinent interpretations to get the overall picture. PPS... Chapter 2 defines Wu Wei; and Chapter 3 referenced to it by stating the reason why it was FOR Wu Wei Wu(Wei Wu Wei).

CD... 12. Always keeping the people innocent without desire, 13. Presumptuous people cannot commit their acts. 14. Trailing to a natural path, 15. Thus nothing that couldn't be handled. 14. Because we are seriously taken the attitude of Wu Wei, 15. Then, there is nothing that couldn't be handled (done, finished, accomplished, completed and etc.....) The reason I do that was to include the term "Wu Wei" in the Translation because it was in the original classic. Don't you think that "Trailing to a natural path" implies the meaning of "the attitude of Wu Wei"....??? PS.... It was also my trick to see who will question the way you do. BTW You have a very conscious mind. If you keep that up, you might not even have to quit this thread......

It means unite yourself with Nature and live naturally in accordance with the principle of Nature. The principle of Nature is just to let it be or let it happen as the way it should and will be.

Yes, MH In general when the TTC mention heaven and earth... Heaven is Nature Heaven and earth is the Universe. 天(tien): heaven By the TaoTe Ching definition, heaven implies 'natural', 自然(Zi Ren). In Chinese thinking, people will blame everything on heaven. They all say "oh my heaven" instead of "oh my God".

14.Gives silent instructions(no instruction). 15.Let things be with no interference; 16.Grown without possession. 17.Sustain without domination. 18.Success without dwelling. 19.Because of not dwelling alone, 20.Merits do not vanish. If you treat line 15 as the main clue, then the rest of the lines would be just examples of the clue. Isn't what lines 14 through 18 are the hidden messages which are suggesting that Wu Wei is "let Nature take its course" PS..... This is the way how the Chinese classic was written. It doesn't write out what exactly what it says but only given clues. Sometimes, a phrase does not say what it meant nor meant what it says. It is very paradoxical. It was up to the reader to find the clues in the text by linking the thoughts from line to line. It is up to the reader to put the clues together, just like a jig puzzle, to make some sense out of the context.

MOD.... please removes this double entry. Thanks.

CD... 12. Always keeping the people innocent without desire, 13. Presumptuous people cannot commit their acts. 14. Because we are seriously taken the attitude of Wu Wei, 15. Then, there is nothing that couldn't be handled (done, finished, accomplished, completed and etc.....) The reason I like to keep the term Wu Wei in the translation is because, after all, it is the whole philosophy that LaoTze was tried to convey and well defined in Chapter 2. Wu Wei is the first appeared in Chapter 2. Therefore, LaoTze spelled out the definition of Wu Wei there. If one is in doubt what Wu Wei is, one can always go back to Chapter 2 as a reminder.

Yes, I cannot agree more but keep it relevant....