ChiDragon

Let's get back on course.... The evolution of the Early Day Ba Gua to the Later Day Ba Gua was based on the reaction of the corresponding trigrams. There are four directional trigrams and four corner trigrams. The four directional trigrams are only using one line to react with the complementary trigram across from each other. The four corner trigrams are using two lines to react between the top and bottom trigrams on the left and right sides.

Breath work, to me, is the ultimate breathing method in QiGong. Feng Shui is all psychology which are the things were affecting you emotionally.

Let me make myself clear. I do not believe in Feng Shui. The reason I study it was for my curiosity by testing their claims to see they are true or not. The most interesting was to find out how they made their predictions. It was fun to know how they come up with the formulation to reach certain conclusions. It was interesting to know that there is a Feng Shui master, here, in my state of California. He helped to rearrange everything in the state capitol and become famous for that. Now, he is teaching Feng Shui class in southern California. The best thing about him is that he helps his student to get into the actual practice and make money after the course was completed.

Yes, if one understood the basic concepts, things do have to be changed around in different regions. That is why Feng Shui is environmental. The present 羅盤(luo2 pan2) was designed for the Chinese region. The Early Day Ba Gua has to be rearranged in order to fit a particular region. There was one case, a student from Australia did ask his teacher in China about the how the Luo Pan should be facing. The teacher told him to turn it around(180 degrees). There was one question in my mind at the time when I read that. The four corner trigrams are the geographical layout of China. I don't know did his teacher has considered or not before he told his student. However, we can find that out from the geography of Australia. Very good...!!! If people start to question about what they'd read and learned, it is time to get wise....

I am not trying to run away from the subject on Feng Shui. What I am doing here is to let people know that one must study Yi Jing as a prerequisite before go into Feng Shui. The Yi Jing involves the Yin-Yang, trigrams, Ba Gua, He Tu and Luo Shu. Before anyone jumps into Feng Shui, one should understand these items individually. Mainly is why the Early Day(Heaven) BA Gua was drown that way and how it was evolved into the Later Day Ba Gua. It is because the Feng Shui concept was mainly developed by laying the Later Day Ba Gua over the Luo Shu. IMO/IME If someone start talking about Feng Shui and knew nothing about the Ba Gua in the Yi Jing, then one doesn't know Feng Shui. Period. That is why I am spending so much time here on the Ba Gua(s). The general concept on Feng Shui(Wind and Water) is just common sense. Feng Shui is mainly to help someone to select a good and natural environment for a comfortable living. Why do we call it 風水(Feng Shui)...??? It is because the wind and water do have a great influence in our daily life. If you talk to an American Indian, he will tell you where and how to place his teepee because he knew all about the wind and water. An Indian will place his teepee where the water goes around it to assure that his teepee does not wash away by flood; and have the entrance of the teepee facing the South to assure that the cold wind from the North does not below into the teepee. Indeed, the Chinese Feng Shui system was based on this simple concept. This concept was laid out in the Ba Gua. The Ba Gua tells more about the universe and the geographic environment of a region than just the wind and water. In order to determine an accurate Feng Shui interpretation, there is an instrument called 羅盤(luo2 pan2) with the Early Day Ba Gua and a compass place in the center to find the correct direction and geographic layout of the region being investigate.

Well, this thread is not about Feng Shui. It is about Ba Gua and trigrams. Feng Shui should be moved to another thread as its own.

I just don't want to go into an unnecessary lengthy argument which leads us nowhere. Nothing personal....

If your mind has made up what it is already, then, there is no further action needed to change it....

精(jing): the prenatal essential substance which made up of the the human body 精子(jing Zi): the sperm.

I was only talking about the nine dots, since the question was pointing to that direction. The nice palaces is a different story. What you said is true, but there a lot more to it in interpretation then just translation since the Feng Shui system was developed by an esoteric Taoist Group. I see something got lost in the above quote already.

The nine is the number of white dots in to He Tu; it has nothing to do with the trigrams. Please don't get confuse with that. There lots of materials written in Chinese literature which is not possible to be translated into English. If you really want to learn about Feng Shui, it is better to learn it from a Chinese Feng Shui master which speaks English. However, you must pay a high price for it.

"Feng Shui translated as Wind & Water, but the Wind and Water trigrams are Xun and Kan" Feng Shui is the 風水, Wind & Water. A general term was given to this divination profession. The reason the name was given as Feng Shui(風水, Wind & Water) is because the wind and water have a great influence which effecting our living environment. "Wind and Water trigrams are Xun and Kan" In Yi Jing, Xun was a technical name given to the trigram of Wind itself; and Kan was a given name to the trigram of Water. Yes, you'll have to take my words for it. One can find the information in a Chinese reference source. The diagram in the cited site was called the He Tu. All the black dots were considered as Earth and the white dots as Heaven. What you have given above is the interpretation of the He Tu. Indeed, we have to take the interpretation as given definitions. Based on the definition of the black(Earth) and white(Heaven) dots, I see there is an error in: 4-9 4 Earth generates metal, Earth 9 completes it. The West (right) is assigned the Metal element. All the odd numbers are consider to be (Heaven)Yang. It should be corrected to read: 4-9 4 Earth generates metal, Heaven 9 completes it. The West (right) is assigned the Metal element. The five elements were assigned to the four main directions and the center(Earth). It is very important for the Feng Shui masters to remember the position of those elements for Feng Shui interpretations.

First, let's look at the characteristics of the fire and Water. Fire rises, thus use the top line. Water flows down, thus use the bottom line. If we exchange the position of those lines, then Fire become Thunder and Water becomes Swamp as shown in the Later Day(Heaven) Ba Gua.

Here is how the Fire trigram reacts with the Water trigram to become Thunder and Swamp trigrams, respectively. First, let's look at the characteristics of the fire and Water. Fire rises and Water flows down. Therefore, the top line of Fire reacts with the bottom line of Water. If we exchange the position of those lines, then Fire become Thunder and Water becomes Swamp as shown in the Later Day(Heaven) Ba Gua.

Fire is High Noon at 12:00PM

Yes, sorry. I had made the corrections. Thank you.

Here is how the Early Day Ba Gua evolved to the Later Day Ba Gua. First, let's look at the Heaven(Yang) and Earth(Yin) trigrams. The Yin reacts with the Yang. Since these two trigrams are either all solid or broken lines, thus the center line reacted by exchange position with each other. The final result, the Fire(Sun) trigram is ended on top(South) and the Water(Moon) trigram is at the bottom(North). Indeed, after the universe was created, the Sun is the brightest and hottest at high noon in the South. That is why the Fire trigram is ended up in the top. The light of the Moon depends on the light of the Sun, therefore, the Moon is passive which being having the Yin attribute. The trigrams, in the four main directions, only reacting with one line exchanging position with each other following by a logical sequence. Let see if anyone of you can figure out how the Fire(East) and Water(West) changed to what is now in the Later Day Ba Gua....!!! Please remember, you must give a good reason why did you make those changes as such.

How did you come to this conclusion...???

Since when do we start having dirty Chi that needs to be refined....???

I cannot follow this at all...

You got that right but not by assignment. Here is how you determine it. Look at the least number of the yin/yang line in the trigram to determine the attribution. If the trigram has one Yin line, then, its attribute is Yin. One Yang line was considered to be Yang. The Philosophy was the more scarce, the more precious.

If Tai Ji was applied to martial arts. Then, Tai Ji is yin/yang. Push is yang, pull is yin.

I meant a trigram. _____ __ __ _____ How do you determine this trigram is yin or yang....???

You make them up....??? That doesn't sound logical...!!! One should be able to determine it by just looking at each trigram(gua).