ChiDragon

To find peace in your mind is to have serenity in the heart. The key to serenity was through meditation.

You cant.

lienshan... LaoTze left a message to be interpreted and evaluated by those who are alive. I got a feeling that you are telling me that you are not alive....

hmm...now. I know why he dragged his wife along for the ride....

After all, it takes one to know one. This is final. I will stop all your the BS with you. You may have the last word.... PS... Have a nice trip in China. I hope you are happy now....!!!

Chapter 63 - The Lowest to the Highest Extreme 1. With an attitude of Wu Wei, 2. Handle all affairs with no interference, 3. Taste the tasteless as a delicacy. 4. Large becomes small, more becomes less, 5. 報怨以德(If one repays a resentment with virtue,)。 <<<<(out of context) 6. Handle the hardest start with the easiest; Chapter 79 1. After settling a big dispute, 2. One must be ended up with a grudge. 3. If one repays a resentment with virtue, <<< Moved from Chapter 63. 4. How can it be considered that was a good settlement? Some of the knowledgeable native scholars had thought that the line 3 was out of place in Chapter 63 which belongs to Chapter 79. It seems like that line 5, in Chapter 63 doesn't link to the logic within context. Indeed, without line 3 in the first four lines of Chapter 79, it seems like there was missing link somewhere. Chapter 63 1. 為無為， 2. 事無事， 3. 味無味。 4. 大小多少， 5. 報怨以德。 <<<(out of context) 6. 圖難于其易﹔ 第七十九章 1. 和 大 怨 , 2. 必 有 餘 怨 。 3. 報怨以得, <<<(within context) 4. 安 可 以 為 善?

Rebirth of the green. Reproduce the oxygen, We breathe in the air.

天道(the principle of Heaven or way of Heaven) is the natural principle from Heaven. Anything was from Heaven just happens without any reason. Good or bad whether one likes it or not; it's the natural law. Human must accept it as the principle of righteous. It was known for centuries without parroting.

XieJia.... I think Jeff answered your question. Thanks. Jeff.....

I will stop all the BS with you....

Chapter 79 1. After settling a big dispute, 2. One must be ended up with a grudge. 3. If one repays a resentment with virtue, 4. How can it be considered that was a good settlement? 5. Therefore, the sage just keep the left portion(1) of the contract. 6. And he was not willing to execute the contact to collect the debts from others. 7. A virtuous person seems to have great tolerance by holding on to the contract. 8. A non-virtuous person seems to be lack of sympathy as a tax collector. 9. The fundamental principle has no nepotism. 10. It's always stays with a kind person. Notes: (1) In the ancient time, a contract was carved on two pieces of board, the left and the right copies. The left portion was designated for the loaner, and the right portion was for the borrower. 第七十九章 1. 和 大 怨 , 2. 必 有 餘 怨 。 3. 報怨以得, 4. 安 可 以 為 善? 5. 是 以 聖 人 執 左 契 , 6. 而 不 責 於 人 。 7. 有 德 司 契 , 8. 無 德 司 徹 。 9. 天 道 無 親 10. 常 與 善 人 。

dawei.... I never really understand you. Let's not have anymore of this kind of useless encounters. Please let lienshan speak for himself. If you don't like it. You don't need to respond.

Please don't be ridiculous and don't confuse the issue here. I was only quoting lienshan without context. I was translating 天者 as a term by itself. Do you need some Chinese lessons too...??? I thought you knew more than that....!!! PS... Please remember, by your responses and comments, one will know how much that you really know.

You have a five year old mind. Monkey does monkey saw 天者: An messenger from heaven; an angel. PS... You need a good teacher to teach you some logic....

道者: a virtuous person, someone who practices to principles of Tao which is tao(small t)....

As a rule of thumb, the trigrams should be always looking from the inside. This is the correct layout of the Later Version Bagua: The site below illustrates how the Early Version Bagua evolves to the Later Version Bagua. Ref link: Bagua Layouts

Incorrect: 天地定位 Heaven and Earth establish the direction. It should read: 天地定位 Heaven and Earth establish the position.

That is correct. If you study each individual trigram, and both the Xian Tien Bagua and Hou Tien Bagua, you will see that Heaven is on the top of the Xien Tien Bagua and the Sun(Li trigram) is on top of the Hou Tien Bagua. One cannot just jump into the Bagua's without understanding each trigram and thought know it all. If you are really interested in knowing each individual trigram, I'm glad to start a new thread to go over why the trigrams were drawn that way....

Ditto. Naw................

I have never said that Sun is Heaven. I only said Sun was at the Yang-est state at high noon at the South(12:00 o'clock), at the top. Hence, that was why the Heaven trigram was placed in the South position when the ancients layout the Bagua for that reason.

Yes, my mistake....

Good, now you know why the Heaven(3 solid lines) symbol was placed at the top(Suoth). As I'd indicated before, South is the Yang-est position of the all because the Sun was the brightest and hottest at highnoon...

錯, an esoteric term in Yi Jing which means complement to each other. Even a native Chinese who is not study the Yi Jing wouldn't know that was the actual meaning.

I do agree that all martial arts are intended for fighting. It was all depend on the purpose or intent of the practitioner. I am only taken a stand on the side of the Taoist philosophy. The initial intent for being a Taoist is for good health and longevity. Their objective was not to be a warrior. That's all. However, they become defensive in using violence, due to external influence, in their later life is secondary to me. BTW Xing Yi Quan(形意拳) and Ba Gua Quan(八卦掌) are the derivatives from Tai Ji Quan.

Do you know which direction does the needle of the Chinese compass(指南計) is pointing to or referenced to....???