ChiDragon

Guess what is really the formless and the extreme softness...??? Can anybody deny that Wu Wei is not formless and the extreme softness in the world....??? PS... I'm saving this for last....

In your own words, what is Chi Kung....??? Do you see any commonality among all of the different methods...???

(無有入無間). LaoTze like to use the term 無(Wu3) 無有: Not have: LaoTze means the "Invisible Tao" again. 無間: Non-space. What is the opposite of non-space...??? It is a solid body. Thus LaoTze likes to make everything sound paradoxical. 無有入無間: What is really he was saying: The invisible Tao can enter into any solid body to illustrate his point about the first two lines. 1. The extreme softness in the world. 2. Manipulates the extreme hardness of the world. 3. Formless enters non-space. The extreme softness is the formless Tao. Tao is omnipresent.

Sorry to disappoint you. If this is your main goal right now, you've already started with the wrong foot. Any form of Chi Kung will get you there. Only and only if you are determined to get there by practicing. First, you must know what Chi Kung is all about.

Receive the blessing Birds sing on the willow tree Given liveliness

Is dan-tien like a muscle tissue that we can grow it...???

1. No, I didn't know they were; and I don't think they were neither. 2. Yes, I'm an atheist and dealing with intellectual matters here in a discussion forum. I hope that I am doing the right thing.....

Yes, you understand correctly. However, enlightenment is a Buddhist philosophy. The Yin-Yang concept does not apply here.

Yes, a process is not a level of enlightenment but it was only helping to approach enlightenment. When someone was attained to the state of enlightenment, then there was noting to be looking forward to because one is already there at the peak.

Nature has no purpose because it is natural with the balance of the Yin and Yang. As far as the Tao Te Ching was concern, Heaven, Earth, Human, and Tao are four separate entities. Human was caught in between Heaven, earth and Tao. According to LaoTze, human is not part of Nature because human has to cope with Nature all the time by following the principles of Heaven, Earth, and Tao. Human are straw dogs as LaoTze putted. All animals are part of Nature because their physical protection are provide by Nature from adverse weather conditions but humans are not. Human has to deal with animals to survive. Thus that was considered to be dealing with Nature in a philosophical sense which isolates human from Nature. From the Nature's point of view, Nature has no purpose. However, from the human's point of view, the purpose of Nature is for the survival of human.

How may levels are there in enlightenment...??? It seems to me there is only one level. It is either that one was enlightened or not.

You welcome. Let's concentrate on your breathing. When you breathe, how far did your breath go down inside you...??? Another word, your breath reached your throat, chest or abdomen...??? Can you be more elaborate on what do you mean by "caused spaciness and other negative symptoms"...??? Thank you.

Chapter 43 - The Benefit of Wu Wei Translation in terse English: 1. The extreme softness in the world. 2. Manipulates the extreme hardness of the world. 3. Formless enters non-space. 4. Because of that, I know the benefit of Wu Wei 5. Teaching without words 6. The benefit of Wu Wei. 7. There is no comparison with it in the world. Classic text with pinyin 1. 天 下 之 至 柔 ， 1. tian1 xia4 zhi1 zhi4 rou2, 2. 馳 騁 天 下 之 至 堅 。 2. chi2 cheng3 tian1 xia4 zhi1 zhi4 jian1. 3. 無 有 入 無 間 ， 3. wu2 you3 ru4 wu2 jian1, 4. 吾 是 以 知 無 為 之 有 益 。 4. wu3 shi4 yi3 zhi1 wu2 wei2 zhi1 you3 yi4. 5. 不 言 之 教 ， 5. bu4 yan2 zhi1 jiao4, 6. 無 為 之 益 6. wu2 wei2 zhi1 yi4, 7. 天 下 希 及 之 。 7. tian1 xia4 xi1 ji2 zhi1.

strawdog65... No offense. I am just used to the one syllable characters. You see, any sound is a syllable to me. It would be too difficult for me to deal will the Kaiku. Anyway, thank you for your basic understanding....

"Maybe it's a language issue?" Yes, it is. Sorry, I'll no longer participate in the Hiaku Chain.

5 syllables 7 syllables 5 syllables 5-7-5 Paradoxical, LaoTze writing style, Specious. Par a dox i cal = 5 Lao Tze writ ing s ty le = 7 s pe ci ou s = 5

Go back to the #1 post of this thread and let me know if I interpreted incorrectly.

You may post there now after your first post here....

1. a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. 2. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. What is that saying to you....??? It seems to me that "No regular fluctuation was observed" are the keywords: "No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak." AND "which would not occur without ejaculation." IS saying It stays at the 145.7% level until the next ejaculation, then the cycle repeats again.

Paradoxical, LaoTze writing style, Specious.

I think you missed the point. It stays at the 145.7% level until the next ejaculation, then the cycle repeats again. "that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum" "Minimum" means it takes at least 7 days to rejuvenate back to the normal serum testosterone level from the day of ejaculation.

If I understand your question correctly, a Chi Kung practitioner will reach the serum testosterone level quicker than 7 days. It because Chi Kung will increase the cell respiration process faster than an ordinary person.

The character 生(sheng1), by itself, with its basic meanings can be translated into English including all these words: Give birth to; begot, born, produce; generate, engender, mothered; fathered; to live; to grow; alive; life; living; However, these meanings, alone, cannot be used to translate or interpret the Tao Te Ching. This character has many different meanings when compound with a different character. When interpreting the classic text, the interpreter must understand the context before an interpretation can be made. Here are some of the compound characters may be helpful for interpreting the Tao Te Ching. 1. 生 存 shēng cún : to exist; to survive 2. 生 成 shēng chéng : fully developed; ripen; matured 3. 生 育 shēng yù : to bear; to give birth 4. 生 產 shēng chǎn : to produce; manufacture 5. 產 生 chǎn shēng : to come into being; to produce; to cause; to bring about; to generate; to yield; to engender 6. 出 生 chū shēng : to be born; 7. 一 生 yì shēng : all one's life; throughout one's life 8. 化 生 hua4 sheng1: evolved into being For example: 太一生水 太一化生為水 Great One evolved into water.

Hsiang Sheng(相生): It implies that one must be the dependent of the other in order to survive(生). For example, Yang must be existed to have Yin and vice versa. If there was no sunlight(Yang), then, there is no shadow(Yin). Another example, male and female or man and wife are said to be mutual dependent of each other.

What does this mean? It means after 7 days the serum testosterone level has been reached at its peak and it will reproduce no more. In addition, it was suggesting it's better for a man to have sex in the 8th day after ejaculation because the sperms had reached maturity.