ChiDragon

Acting in according with the principle of Tao was considered to be natural. What it was being suggesting is that: Let's say your son wants to be an engineer, so let him be. Please don't force him to be a doctor because of that's what you want him to be. This was considered not Wu Wei due to the interference of one's will. Thus this is one of the natural aspect of Wu Wei.

Stigweard... Besides 養生 yǎngshēng , there are also 養精 yǎng jing1 養氣 yǎng qi4: here is where the qigong comes from 養神 yǎng shen2: here is where meditation comes from 養魚 yǎng yu2 養牛 yǎng niu2

Stan... Sorry to say it, that's EXACTLY.

I believe that I had been given my justification for all my reasoning. However, the main issue had been ignored every time. In return, there was no rebuttal on the issue rather the messenger was being attacked. All this time, our efforts had been wasted on personal issues other than concentrating on the subject was being discussed. Therefore, I have no further interest in the subject and I rest my case. Peace...

Translation: 太一生水 Great One engenders water Interpretation: 太一化生為水 Great One evolved into water. Its hard for me to communicate to you if you do not really know the language thoroughly. You need to an open mind to see what I saying without any preconceived idea. If you do not wish to discuss with an open mind, then I just stay out.

生(sheng1) and 神(Shen2), I can't think of a major connection between the two terms.

Eyes open sitting seiza, this is something new to me in meditation....!!! How were you taught in doing your breathing....???

LaoTze was an atheist; and so am I. He mentioned god(small g) is because a non believer still may use the term for an illustration. This is not my opinion. I'm just translating the TTC as close as possible, impartially, to reveal the actual saying.

Last line of Chapter 25 道法自然。 dao4 fa3 zi4 ran2. Tao follows zi4 ran2.

Chapter 4 - The obscure Tao 1. Tao is vacuous, 2. And its function is inexhaustible. 3. Abyssal, 4. It's the origin of all things. 9. Invisible, 10.Yet obscure. 11.I don't know who he is the son of. 12.It seems to be existed before the heavenly god.

One to demonstrate the ultimate skill is the ultimate goal. This is the theme song from the movie of Jet Li: 隨緣（太極張三豐電影主題曲） 自信手中不見強與勁 自有心中一片和與平 逆來順受 　空虛見豐盛 狂暴化升平　無路處　自有天命 動對靜　除對乘 隨緣入世因風出世　　無情亦有情 隨緣順性　不争不勝　無情是有情 但覺口中不說辭與令　 但見手中拈過塵世情 滙陽合陰　心安覺天靜 柔弱覺風平　無路處　自有天命 動對靜　除對乘 隨緣入世因風出世　　無情亦有情 隨緣順性　不争不勝　無情是有情 The Tai Chi Spirit I am confidently don't see my arms are strong and powerful. I have, within my heart, all of peace and harmony. Facing adversity with docile acceptance. With emptiness sees fullness. With violence turns into risen harmony. If reached to the end of the road, there will be kismet. Motion versus stillness, division versus multiplication. Came into this world because of serendipity; Got out of this world because of the wind. No feeling but having feeling. Follow what was meant to be by the yielding instinct. Not competing, thus no winning. No feeling is having feeling. But felt that my lips are not saying a lyric or a command. But I see that my hands are touching the affairs of this mortal life. Let's meet the Yang and unite with the Yin. Peace in the heart sensed the heavenly tranquility. Gentleness sensed the calming wind. If reached to the end of the road, there will be kismet.

Can you let us know how did you meditate before....???

How do you know that you are experiencing Tao....???

Yes, thanks. I was more interested in the concept than its classification. The legend why it was called Wing Chun. The woman who invented this style is because her name was called Wing Chun. Women are known to be weaker than men. So she invented the method was to fight someone in a close contact distance. The main goal is to get the opponent off balance by moving the striking body part of the opponent slightly away from the defender's vulnerable area. The Wing Chun practitioner use the hands to strike by making a swift move before the opponent was even aware of it. This falls into the concept of the Yin overcomes the Yang. The woman was being the Yin and man was being the Yang.

There is a fallacy in the video. The reason was that when the man stands with his knees bent, the legs of the triangle should stop at the knees from the toes because the legs are not straight. This stance will keeping the man in balance from pushing and pulling, so he won't fall. Why he won't fall...??? If you have some lessons in kinetics, you will know that each bending leg has two pivot points. The points are at the ankles and the knees. You have two force on the legs. At all times, you have a resultant force going toward to front of the body on the lower legs; and an opposite resultant force on the upper legs going toward the back of the body. The two resultant forces are counteracting to keep the body in balance. However, the woman in the urinated position, most of her body weight is in the backside. If somebody comes along and give a push, then she will drop and sit on the toilet.

Really...??? Why don't you take a look of these...???

Then, one of all is part of Tao.

oops....... How less I know. Look what I have found. link: 榖

This is a special horse stance only, and only, in Wing Chun. The pigeon toed standing posture gives the practitioner a higher traction on the ground to counteract a pulling force. Also, it will naturalize the pushing force of the practitioner when pushing his opponent. Literally speaking, it locks the feet on the ground, to keep the balance of the body.

FYI There are no most highest, advanced system. All Chi Kung involves breathing and slow movements. It is a matter of how eager do you want to learn and practice. You just learn the basic breathing method with some body movements, it will have the same health effect as with any other methods. Please don't be deceived by those fancy names and claims. It was the practice, practice and practice that will get you to the ultimate.

As I said before, the Tao Te Ching is a piece of stand alone document but you don't have to agree with me. All the definitions are well defined and self supported in different chapters within the TTC. It just a matter of finding and use them. If one tries to use other definitions from different philosophers other than the Tao Te Ching, then one was just confusing the issue and ran away the basic definition of the TTC farther and farther. PS... Sorry, this is only my approach and may not be suitable for others.

In general, I am totally agree. In the case about 'learning', I agreed partially. However, when all things are able to be fully developed to their physical being, then I'm totally agree. I have a question. The Tao Te Ching always mentioned all things, heaven, earth, human, and Tao separately. Do you think he treated each of these as a separated entity....???

1. In the same token. There was no such thing as Tao. LaoTze made Tao and used different names to describe Tao. 2. This remark seems too open-minded for me. Both characters 榖(gu3) and 谷(gu3) pronounced the same. It was traditional to borrow the sound of a character in the Chinese language, especially, when there were only just enough characters to be used at the time.

What was a diff character initially...??? The reason that LaoTze use 谷神, spirit of the valley, is because "valley" has the characteristics of Tao as abyssal, vacuous, and serene.