ChiDragon

1. Tendon and muscle may be partially torn but they do not dislocate. If you do, you will have constant pain. 2. If you can maneuver it to feel impeded then a clicking noise. no real pain not in the slightest. It seems like your shoulder joint is slightly dislocated.

Wei Wu Wei It means one is carrying out the concept of Wu Wei.

Chapter 51 - The abyssal Te(玄德) 1. 道生之， 2. 德畜之， 3. 物形之， 4. 勢成之。 5. 是以萬物,莫不尊道而貴德。 6. 道之尊， 7. 德之貴， 8. 夫莫之命而常自然。 9. 故, 10.道生之， 11.德畜之。 12.長之育之。 13.亭之毒之。 14.養之覆之。 15.生而不有， 16.為而不恃， 17.長而不宰。 18.是謂玄德。 Translation in terse English 1. Tao engenders it, 2. Te fosters it. 3. Matter forms it, 4. Environment grows it. 5. Hence, all things respect Tao and honor Te. 6. Tao's dignity, 7. Te's value. 8. Those were not interfered but let them be natural. 9. Therefore, 10.Tao engenders it, 11.Te fosters it. 12.Grow it nourish it, 13.Let it grow to maturity, 14.Foster it and protect it. 15.Produce it but not possess it. 16.Keep it but not restrain it, 17.Raise it but not control it, 18.Is the abyssal virtue.

The reason one has to take the supplement bbca is because workout is a strenuous exercise. Strenuous exercise consumes lots of ATP. In Chi Kung practice, instead consuming energy, it generates ATP. This supplement is not a growth hormone, I don't think one takes it will become a huge bear of some sort.

Scientific Explanation of Chi Kung No. 3 - The Biochemical-Mechanical Loop Although there are many styles in Chi Kung, but there is one commonality. If we observed closely, we will see that breathing is in synchronization with the slow body movements. The combination of the breathing and movements is a biochemical-mechanical loop for completing the muscle contraction process. The muscle contraction requires energy. Thus, it raises the question where does the energy come from? The muscle tissue consists of body cells. The muscle get the energy from the cells. Within the cell, there are organelles called mitochondria. Mitochondria are the power generators of the cell; using oxygen converting the glucose into the chemical energy. The chemical energy is adenosine triphorsphate(ATP) which powers the cell's metabolic activities. Hence the conversion of ATP from glucose requires the oxygen from breathing, the metabolic process is called cell respiration. The ATP is used in any reaction we do that needs biological energy, such as breathing, heart beating, nerve message transmission and even lifting weights. ATP can be generated from two sources of oxygen. Hence, there are two processes for energy production depend on the sources. Anaerobic respiration uses the oxygen stored in muscles, in small quantity, can only produce a small amount of energy for one time; and aerobic respiration uses the oxygen from breathing which can generate a large amount of energy constantly. There are only a small amount of oxygen stored in the muscles. When there is insufficient supply of oxygen in the blood, anaerobic respiration will use the stored amount to produce two molecules of ATP causing oxygen debt. Anaerobic respiration is the worse situation for the body to be in. It is because, with the absence of oxygen, the glucose is converted into lactic acid causing pain and fatigue in the muscles. However, anaerobic respiration only occurs in strenuous exercise. In Chi Kung, anaerobic respiration will never take place inside the human body. The abdominal breathing method always provide a constant source of oxygen for aerobic respiration. The slow movement causing slight muscle contraction by utilizing the biochemical energy(ATP) produced by the mitochondria. Therefore, the biochemical-mechanical loop can be represented by the formula below: Glucose + Ob + Om => H20 + CO2 + Heat + Energy Ob is the oxygen we breathe into the lungs for aerobic respiration. Om is the small amount of oxygen stored in the muscles to be used for anaerobic respiration. Energy is the number of ATP, in molecules, a dependent of oxygen. Ob at the left of the formula indicates that the more oxygen we breathe in, the more Energy will be produced at the right. Only Chi Kung can accomplish this condition. The stored Om in muscles were never being used because there are no oxygen debt in Chi Kung practice due to the abdominal breathing method. In strenuous exercise such as sprints, at the lactic threshold, the heart beats too fast. The heart contracts before the blood were filled completely. Therefore, there are not enough oxygen collected by the blood from the lungs for all the body cells. Due to the lack of oxygen(Ob), anaerobic respiration used the small amount of Om stored in the muscles. The formula becomes: Glucose + Om => H20 + CO2 + Heat + Energy The aerobic respiration can no longer take place to generate any more ATP until the oxygen(Om) was paid back to the muscles and breathing returned to normal. The glucose cannot breakdown to produce ATP without oxygen. Therefore, it was converted into lactic acid. Ref: http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Scientific_Explanation_of_Chi_Kung_No_3_-_The_Biochemical-mechanical_Loop.html

"Living is a continual series of choices." It was from your point of view to interpret LaoTze's philosophy. That was a common thing to do for most people. My approach was to look at LaoTze's principles first, then I followed. His whole idea about Wu Wei was to let Nature take its course, being natural, leave them alone. A sage takes the correct action was by not to take action to harm Nature in anyway. For example, a sage would not build a dam on a river to interrupt the water flow and the ecology of the river.

Gladly...... 1. http://www.trueorigin.org/atp.asp 2. http://www.brianmac.co.uk/articles/scni2a6.htm 3. http://www.biology.iupui.edu/biocourses/N100/2k4ch7respirationnotes.html 4. http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/C/CellularRespiration.html#36

If you really understand what ATP is and how it was generated, then you will know that is exactly what is happening inside your body. If you breathe in more oxygen, you will have more ATP energy. If your body does not dissipate the excessive energy, it will be gone in seconds until the next inhalation with more oxygen. Finally, the ATP will help the body to repair itself in a damaged area by mitosis.

Thank you for the kind words. Chidragon is 氣龙(龍). I would translate the following terms as shown below: 修行: cultivate; cultivation 妄想: wistful thinking Thus the proper translation for: 不修行，不积功,妄想平地上天宫 If one does not cultivate nor accumulate merits, then, one should not be having any wistful thinking about rising to heaven from earth. 自古多少成真客，那个不是大德翁。 Since ancient time, many people become immortal, which one is not a high virtuous individual. youzifive, 請多多指教。

I like your opened mind about the last statement. If we look at Chi microscopically, with the help of modern science, I would say Chi is the biochemical energy produced by the mitochondria in the body cell called adenosine triphosphate(ATP). For those who practice Chi Kung should know something about physiology based on this statement: "positive health effects of deep conscious breathing."

How about "do no thing to cause harm" as oppose to "do nothing to cause harm" ...???

Wu Wei is not "do nothing" rather "do nothing to cause harm" When a wise scholar hears the Tao, He practices it diligently. When a mediocre scholar hears the Tao, He wavers between belief and unbelief. When a worthless scholar hears the Tao, He laughs boisterously at it. Question: Is there such thing as a worthless scholar. If a scholar is worthless, is he a scholar...???

Non... I am totally agree with robmix. "And seriously, how many posts do we need to see with people injuring themselves after learning these practices from a book. This is one of the reasons they were secret for so long." What you are doing is jumping the gun. What you are now is just an ordinary person without and practice of Chi Kung. Do you know that you must practice many years of Chi Kung to build up your libido and perform sex without hurting yourself...??? Reading something from a book and start practicing some unknown method which you are not ready for and unfamiliar with is very dangerous to your health.

Thank you very much for your honest answer telling the truth about yourself. 1. You have phantom side pains in your lower abdomen, how does it bother you...??? How often do you feel this pain...??? Are you taking any medication for it or does it help...??? 2. In your mediation, were you thinking about something all the time...??? Or, you don't think of anything at all...??? Do you do any special breathing while meditate...??? 3. Yes, please can you elaborate more on item #3. 4. This seems to be yourself worse weakness. I think you can overcome that by follow the principles of Tao. Tao is natural. Natural has an implication of being neutral. What I can see is that your issue was immanent. If you can meditate in a neutral state, that will help you to put your mind at ease. Why don't you answer questions #2 and #3, then we go from there...

"Yes I am an angry person." 1. Can you tell us your health condition...??? 2. What did you do in your meditation...??? 3. Can you tell something more about your anger...??? 4. What triggered your anger the most in the past..???

It seems like you have reached the ultimate goal of Chi Kung. Just make it your normal breathing habit then you got it made.

Those who did natural breathing or chest breathing, in Chi Kung practice, but not abdominal breathing: Did your health improve and how did it improve resulted from your practice...???

FYI.... Chest breathing is not a complete form of Chi Kung. It is because, chest breathing is still under the control of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. If you are lack of oxygen, the heart will pump faster and breathe faster. Only abdominal breathing was mind controlled. Due to abdominal breathing, ample of oxygen provided to circulate in the blood, the heart do not have to do extra work by beating faster than normal.

That is correct...... How did you know....???

FD... The reason I posted thread was because I had noticed that some of the people were doing the abdominal breathing incorrectly. My intent here is not to criticize someone's breathing method but to corrected it as I see fit. I had practice Taiji for more the thirty years. Then I switched to Chi Kung for simplicity. By your description of doing your abdominal breathing was not quiet correct, that was why it was extremely hard for you to even do ten abdominal breaths. You were totaly exhausted when reaching 20. The problem you are having was because you were fighting your breathing in a very unnatural way. May I recommend you do the following. 1. Do not count how many times of breathing because that will make you loose concentration. 2. You just close your eyes and look down toward the tip of your nose. You just relax and breathe as slow as you can and deep as you can. Don't even think about that you are doing abdominal breathing. Just let the breath stop where ever it can until you are very comfort without any dizziness. You just have to let your breath go down slowly, until one day, reaches your abdomen. Another word, in the meantime, do not force your breath down to your abdomen. Remember, your breath must go down from your nose, throat, chest then abdomen. Do not skip or force your breath from throat to abdominal, literally speaking. Your breath only goes into your lungs but the abdomen. Abdominal breathing was only a description that your lungs were full of air at the highest capacity.

Let me tell my own breathing problem history. I had a breathing problem when I was a teenager. My breaths were so shallow. I cannot even finish a sentence with one breath. Therefore, I took TaiJi lessons, the Yang style 108 movements. I was told not to concentrate on my breathing as a beginner, but just do the movements and let them guide my breathing.

Let me start with my own breathing history. I had a breathing problem when I was a teenager. My breaths were so shallow. I cannot even finish a sentence with one breath. Therefore, I took Tai Chi lessons, the Yang style 108 movements. I was told not to concentrate on my breathing as a beginner, but just do the movements and let them guide my breath. After years of practice, my breaths get deeper progressively down to my abdomen. Abdominal breathing is the highest goal that a Chi Kung practitioner wants to achieve. Then it will become a natural habit in ordinary breathing. Just breathe like a baby. The goal of abdominal breathing has been reached. Now, I can complete one sentence with one breath and with extra breaths left. Now, I can sing like a tenor with a full vocal range. My body has a tremendous strength to do my daily chores. My reflexes are swift and fast. I can catch a falling object from the table before it reaches the floor. It was just a normal reaction without thinking which might cause hesitation. Also, I can shop up a chicken, in five minutes, in an orderly serving fashion on a plate. My reaction are much quicker then an ordinary person.

My main diet are chicken, fish, green vegetables, and almond or other nuts for my snacks. Most importantly, breathe in lots of oxygen by abdominal breathing as my normal breathing habit. Eating alone does not give you energy, it must be the combination of eating and breathing.