ChiDragon

IMHO Ginna is good to be applied on an unskilled fighter.

First of all, we must understand the diagram of heel and umbilical breathing, 踵蒂吸呼圖. It show two paths of Chi flow. The front path is 通蒂(umbilical passage ) and the back is 通踵(heel passage). Neidan is the emphasis on breathing. Without breathing, nothing works in Neidan. Breathing is analogous to fire in (外丹)Weidan 踵蒂吸呼 is heel and umbilical breathing. It was assumed that the breath(气) is flowing through the two virtual passages during Neidan meditation. Sometimes, we can't rely on Google translation too much. The proper Taoist term for the method of Neidan is 內丹術. Neidan(內丹) by itself is internal(內) pill(丹); AKA elixir, golden pill; golden elixir; Xin Dan(仙丹) AKA Immortal pill. The names are the same pertaining to the method of Neidan. The breathing to the heels or to the "bubbling spring" in Tai Chi, but not heel-to-toe breathing in Neidan. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those term. They are just some made up names to please the English speaker.

I wouldn't do that if I were you. You will die sooner than you think if follow the above procedure. The brain use 20% of the total oxygen in the body. If the brain is in the hypoxia condition for more than 6 minutes, then it will be brain dead. Please learn some simple scientific facts about breathing. https://biologyinsights.com/why-do-we-breathe-a-biological-explanation/#google_vignette

This is not true, it means they did not use the lungs in its full capacity. The Taoist found a breathing method to use the lungs more efficient to its full capacity. The breathing method is called 吐納(Tu Na). I don't know have you ever heard of. Nowadays, it is called 氣功(Qigong).

People understand normal breathing not under medical treatment oxidative stress will not happen. Nature only allow for the lungs to be filled with its full capacity. There is no chance for the lungs to overfilled. However, a ventilator is a high-pressure machine used when a patient cannot breathe sufficiently on their own. It physically pushes oxygen-rich air into the lungs may cause Oxygen Toxicity. Oxygen Toxicity: While oxygen is necessary, breathing pure (100%) oxygen for too long can actually damage the delicate lining of the lungs. A few more percentage of oxygen in our lungs, we all die. It is not in the atmosphere. Please keep the fact straight.

I agree. That is general knowledge to distinguish Peng from Ginna. The combination of both can be used but Peng was acquired from Taiji practice before the Ginna training.

Moved to another thread.

Those who think that they know all about Neidan. If they don't know what 踵蒂吸呼 means, Sorry, they don't know what Neidan is all about!

In that case, human biological power(ATP) is from 氧气, oxygen. Let's point a finger to chi, not the moon yet.

We can start with three kinds of Chi, 炁, 氣 and 气. Can you tell the difference? What is 炁(chi) in TCM? What is 氣(chi) to a Taoist? What is 气(chi) to a Qigong practitioner?

Please specify what kind of Chi are you talking about?

Don't forget to do the ultimate method of breathing. 气 沉丹田，sink chi to the dantien.

The year of the horse is coming. Have we pick out the horse yet?

Nothing is nothing but not the void. Void is something there that we are in it. Emptiness is not nothing but emptiness!

Please keep in mind. Get more oxygen doesn't mean breathe more than the lungs can hold. When people breathe, ideally is to have the lung to be filled with oxygen at its full capacity. However, some people may have breathing problems. Thus they only have the lung filled from 25% to 50% but not 100%. People with their lungs filled 100% every time during inhalation lives longer. It is because they have a better immune system. Somehow, the ancient Taoist discovered by breathing slow, long and deep had improved the health tremendously. The breathing method was known as Tu Na(吐納). The modern term now is called Qigong(氣功). let's assume that the initial lung capacity of the Qigong practitioner was 50%, by performing the Tu Na method will be increased to 100%. That is what it mean by getting more oxygen. The vital sources for the human body to function and survival are food and oxygen. The food we can eat as much as we would like. However, the way people breathe may not be the same for everyone. Therefore those who have a problem in breathing need to improve their breathing habit. Guess what they need to improve their breathing habits with? It is Qigong, Taiji or any form of exercise to improve the respiratory system. It's better yet to practice breathing that coordinates with some movements. Indeed, the best candidate is Taiji. Taiji was classified as a form of Qigong. PS Some people claimed that they are practicing Qigong without breathing in that extra 50% of oxygen, then, they aren't practicing Qigong at all. There is a lack of oxygen condition is called hypoxia. Hypoxia is what everyone want to avoid.

Off subject!

Let me put it this way. The thing is not how much oxygen is in the air. It is how much do you take advantage of the oxygen. Some people breathing in less and some breathe in more. Those who breathe in less are in poor health. Those who breathe in more are in good health. For that said, the Qigong practitioners and other martial arts practitioners have a better respiratory systems than a ordinary person. It's better yet. They are in excellent health.

I am a bit puzzled about your conclusion. Perhaps you can explain it otherwise. As far as I know, all Fajin methods were depicted from the basic movements and classified as the 8 Fajin methods. It happens to be that Peng appeared in most of them, except last two methods.

There is no big pool of oxygen in the body. Only if one breathes more into the lungs with Qigong.

In modern science, what is in the air that humans needed the most is oxygen. Thus the postnatal chi is oxygen.

Chi is a vital source that invigorate the human body and to sustain its life. Ancient Taoist thought that the postnatal Chi is in the air. Just breathe more air then.

Wow, thanks for telling me all these! How wrong could I be!?

Fajin, 發勁, is a special Taiji technique using different parts of the body to issue an explosive force(勁). There are eight techniques. Each technique has a given name. Its purpose was not to learn Ginna, 擒拿. Ginna means "grab and catch it." Ginna should be considered as another type of martial arts. The practice of Ginna is not like Taiji at all. Its practice is just jumped right into learning the grabbing techniques. The amount of power depends on the physical condition of the practitioner. Fajin, in Taiji, require extensive diligent practice for years to develop the Jin 勁 in the body muscles. The amount of Jin exertion can be controlled by the executioner. How much force was used may be observed by how far is the opponent was being pushed went. If the opponent was pushed far far back, then, one might say that the Taiji practitioner has lots of 內功(neigong), inner strength.

IMMHO Learning the principle is a good start for going into the methodology. It will speed up the learning process and more appreciative and encouraging. It may eliminate a lots of confusion. When you are mixing two systems and try to speak to someone the terminology just doesn't match. Then, you will have lots of explaining to do. The more you talk about it the more you're running away from the subject. It makes the listener lose interest quickly.

The last four of the eight methods of Fajin https://share.google/IP8ONAwWG5JreOVdU https://share.google/wTVRqyfpVrSWNOng1