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  1. Posted

    On 8/24/2024 at 8:57 AM, Antares said:

    No, they get yuan jing but dont transmute it into yuan qi. As far as i got it right. Yuan jing is only part of the "medicine". And also i am not sure they nourish De in yanshengong. For De nourishing more ingredients are required  


    Yuan jing(元精, original jing) is the prenatal jing originated from the parents. It stays in the body to be maintained by the postnatal jing. It is not part of a medicine. De(德) is a philosophical term. It is not a substance in the body as one might think it would be.

    De(德) shouldn't even be considered in the discussion. Peace! ;)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  2. Posted

    2 hours ago, damdao said:

    It is 养生功 Yangsheng gong and means "Training in Nurturing Life" and it is part of the traditional daoist systems for healing and longevity.

    It has many schools but always aiming at cultivating and overall wellbeing.


    Yes, 养生功 Yangsheng gong is to maintain life by nurturing the body with foods and air(mainly oxygen). To obtain more oxygen than normal, then, one must practice to improve the respiratory system. That was why Qigong(氣功) practice is the major role. The purpose of Qigong is to learn to sink chi to the dantian(氣沉丹田). Most people, mistakenly, interpreted that sink chi to the dantian(氣沉丹田) is to sink energy to the lower dantian. Actually, chi in Qigong means air, breath or breathing. If it was misinterpreted, then, one will not be able to reach the goal of Qigong. That is sink the breath deep down to the dantian. At this point, the lung is in its full capacity to hold oxygen to nourish the body cells. The mitochondria in the cells will produce the maximum power energy possible for the body to perform its function.

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  3. Posted

    1 minute ago, ChiDragon said:

    Yangshen gong is for longevity.


    Any form of Qigong is for good health. Yangshen gong, 陽神功(Yangshen gong) is just another fancy name invented by some individual for Qigong. Somebody else can come along to call it something else to make it sound like something new for marketing.

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  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Antares said:

     

    Yangshen gong is for longevity. This is simplified form of neidan/neigong. Qigong is the product of CCP I believe. This is sort of "new age "  approach. I dont know why you refer to it as "breathing method". Specific breathing can be used in neidan/neigong as well. But breathing is only part of it to induce specific flow of qi. The most important is posture and state of mind as well as specific movements and static postures. The main difference between nei... and qigong is how to propel specific flow of qi in certain channels and which channels are used and what sort of qi is employed 


    FYI There isn't a good translation in other languages for Qigong(氣功).  The modern Chinese explained Qigong completely different than the English version. That is why there are so much confusion in the western part of the world. Qigong is not the product of the CCP. Qigong is just a new modern name for the ancient term of Tu Na(吐納). Tu Na(吐納) simple means exhale and inhale with the abdomen fully contracted and expanded, respectively. Tu na or Qigong has existed two thousand years ago. There is a big language barrier between the Chinese and English. There are so many esoteric Taoist terms in Chinese that are not translatable into other languages. Unfortunately, people just have to work with what is available to them and took it for granted with a half understanding. Sorry to say, even, the native Chinese gets confuse with the terms. Those who think they knew can only explained with ambiguity, but still something gets lost in the translation.

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  5. Posted

    On 8/21/2024 at 7:40 AM, QiBob SquareGong said:

    Hello everyone, I want to know why can't we just eat the herbs? Like Goji Berries, Black Sesame Seeds, all of these can be eaten to get the same benefits as a herbal tea or it's not the same?

     

    I can't find this information anywhere 


    The herbs are normally combined in dried form. PPL take them home and boiled in three bowls of water or more. Served when it went down to one bowl.

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  8. Posted

    On 8/14/2024 at 4:35 AM, Antares said:

    Neigong is the same as neidan but has more martial application. Neidan was developed first and then neigong on the basis of neidan. But in general it has nothing to do with qigong. The latter one is just health oriented sets of exercises which goal is health promotion and it works with 12 "medicinal" channels in most cases. Sometime qigong can work with 8 "alchemical " meridians but it never can produce the same results as neidan or neigong can do   


    FYI Here is how I understand it from a native point of view.
    Neidan is a practice originated from Chinese Taoists to have good health for longevity.

    Neigong is a kind of practice to develop internal strength for martial arts.

    Qigong is a breathing method to accomplish both of the above.
     

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  9. Posted

    On 7/15/2024 at 12:14 PM, Sherman Krebbs said:

     

      What is it about the practice of neigong is so different from other practices? Sorry to be dense.  My only exposure is watching a DVD from Jwing-Ming.


    Neidan is a practice of meditation in breathing. Neigong is the internal effect resulted from the practice of neidan.

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  10. Posted

    On 8/14/2024 at 2:05 PM, Nikeir said:

    Mainly counting my breath and some advanced stuff like erasing my self in my mind

    Hi Nikeir. Welcome to TDB

    Counting breath is not a meditation method. It is how do you breathe is the right way.

    Perhaps you would like to read this.

     

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  13. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    1 hour ago, Daniel said:
    10 hours ago, Cobie said:
    To learn,  One accumulates day by day.

    To study Tao, One reduces day by day. 

     

    Hmm.  In context, you seem to have chosen this verse to discourage learning, but I doubt highly that this is the intention of these words.  


    Yes, you are quite right! This is not the intention of these words. The hidden message was: If you learn more and more, then you will accumulate more knowledge by the day. Learning the principles of Tao that we will reduce our desires more and more by the day.

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  15. Posted

    On 7/18/2024 at 6:37 PM, Turnip said:

    What do you practice?

    Why do you practice?

    What do you trust?

    Why do you trust that?

    Welcome to TDB, Turnip

     

    I practiced Taiji for more than forty years.

    It makes me every healthy is because it improves my breathing problem. Taiji is also known as a form of Qi Gong due to its emphasis in breathing.

    I trusted its effectiveness of given me the health benefits and enhanced my physical conditions to perform everything to the best of my ability.

    I trusted it is because through my long time practice that gives me nothing but good benefits with no side effects.

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  16. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    On 7/12/2024 at 7:51 AM, Da_Vid said:

    Breathing; when breathing on what do we focus and how to avoid when mind wonders while meditating, are we saying words like "inhale", "exhale" or it is something different?


    Welcome to TDB, David.
    Yes, breathing is all about "inhale" and "exhale". What else could it be? It is a matter of how does one breathes!

     

    On 7/18/2024 at 2:17 AM, Da_Vid said:

    When I am focusing on the spot when I am breathing it tend to start to burn or to hurt, why is that? Could anyone explain what is happening? But when I shift focus on something else the pain goes away...?

    It is more like a pain of cramp of some kind that the longer my focus in on it the pain gets stronger...


    Would you please explain what do you mean by "When I am focusing on the spot when I am breathing it tend to start to burn or to hurt"? What and where is the spot that you are talking about? Thanks!

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    3 hours ago, Cobie said:

    How does “forgiveful” follow from “Wu Wei”?  
     

     

    Wu Wei is to follow the course of nature. Someone had been punished, then release the punishment to see was there any effect from the action. If not, then try again and again until there are improvements have shown. There is nothing that one should go to the extreme. IMO Nothing is permanent.

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  18. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    4 hours ago, kakapo said:

     

    You are not wrong, I feel he aggressively talked about aliens.

     

    His ban was justifiable.

     

    That said people make mistakes, and it's been 4 years.

     

    I've seen people behave far worse than he ever has, and never be banned or even suspended for it.

     

    I can only say I know him personally and he's a decent person.


    Since we are here to undertand or practice Taoism, we should learn to be forgiveful and tolerate others and given them another chance for improvement! Otherwise, Wu Wei was being ignored on the website!

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  19. Posted

    22 hours ago, Tommy said:

    I believe here that duality means the separateness one experiences in this life before enlightenment. There is you there and me here. We can see each other as not us or separate. A duality like light and dark. Ying and yang. Hot air and cold air foods. Yeah, stuff does get around and used in all sorts of ways.


    Yes, I think so. It is a general term pertaining to two related elements.

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  20. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    28 minutes ago, Maddie said:

     

    What confuses me is that I hear it used in a Buddhist context often yet I have never read a Sutta where the Buddha mentioned it. 

    Yes, It is not an ancient term that was used in the ancient Chinese language. The modern translation of 'duality' is "二元性" meaning pertaining to two elements. The two elements of Taiji(太極) are yin/yang( 阴/阳). The two elements are integrated as a whole but always described separately. In western thinking, I think the two elements may be referred as duality.

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  21. Posted

    15 minutes ago, Maddie said:

     

    I hear this duality word thrown around a lot here, but what does it mean in the way that you are using it? 

    Somehow, once I was told that the term 'duality' was derived from the concept of yin/yang.  IMO it seems the term is used very loosely without attachment! 

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  24. Posted

    On 6/14/2024 at 7:41 PM, Ervin said:

    In Tao te Ching is written to accomplish everything without doing anything.

    i don’t understand it, can someone explain it to me please?

     

    thanks

    The interpration of the term wu wei(無為), in the Tao Te Ching, simply means do nothing to interfere with nature. In other words, let nature take its course.

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