ChiDragon

I think that the challenge is determining if the other person is ready to listen. If not then why waste your time. If the person is ready to listen then I would say yes, speak with the person but allow them to find their own answers. We cannot give others the moon but we can point to it so that they can at least see it.

I thought I left it up to you.....

The first step of practicing Internal Elixir Qigong has been known as Microcosmic Meditation. After completing Microcosmic meditaion, a practitioner will learn Grand Circulation or Macrocosmic Meditation. The purpose of Grand Circulation is to re-open the Heaven Eye to unite the natural spirit and human spirit. This is the ultimate goal of spiritual enlightenment in both Taoism and Buddhism.

Thank you...!!!

How do you know when the Microcosmic Meditation was accomplished...???

OK, you three...

Please be more specific and give me some intelligent answers.

People talks a lot about the MCO, does anybody know why it was performed and what it was trying to accomplish...???

We are really getting too remote now. The more we said, the more erroneous commonsense...

Also known as the "Taoist Breathing" or "Pre-Birth Breathing". The stomach contracts as we breathe in, and expands as we breathe out. It is the reverse of the Normal Breathing. It is the breathing method we use before birth, when we are still in the fetus.

Breathing in the Womb

Babies do not actually breathe in the womb---at least, not in the usual sense. Fetal lungs are not fully functional, and are not even able to fully expand, until after birth. During the later stages of gestation, the fetus may "practice" breathing by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid. The fetal lungs do not process the amniotic fluid, the way fully formed lungs process air, but experts believe this "breathing" is important to fetal lung development. The fetus gets all of its oxygen and nutrients through the placenta and umbilical cord---a process called fetal circulation.

Ref link: Fetus Breathing in the womb

I was going to mention that but decided to leave it for someone else.

Haven't I given a direct answer to the original question...???

Real taichi he ?

Here is the uniqueness of the Chen style, please notice that his body wiggles a little. You can tell by the movements of his shirt.

Real taichi he ?

This is called Fast Tai Ji at the intermediate level.

I'd like to add a note about the muscle control that seems to come with MCO.

Prior, I'd never tried flexing any of the muscles around the sacral area. Now I can, and with some amount of precision. I think that this also speaks to something to be discovered about MCO. I've read people can develop Iron Shirt from it. But I figure you'd have to do it with attention pretty much all day to get that?

People can write anything, I would consider what they are saying with caution and an open mind. IMO Anything on paper is not law you know. One must consider who said it and what has been said. How much truth can one get out of it...???

PS...

I know I will get some backfire from my signature. Go ahead and fire away...

Even if the participants have the same gender there will Yin and Yang aspects to the relationship and the physical activity.

Such as....???

ok, i reckon that you are right about being in a conversation.(conversation being a 2 way thing where one listens to(and considers) the experience of those in that conversation) but if you were in a conversation on this thread, you would be conversing with folks who do run their mco. and ones who are sharing from their experience. and trying to share some insight to you so it would not be so much of a mystery to you.

Yes, people can talk about it all day long. However, I never heard what kind of result they have accomplished.

One must have a good foundation with the basic knowledge and held as a standard to compare and evaluate what others are saying. If everybody saying something differently and unsure about the same thing, something must had gone wrong.

I am sensing lots of people just repeating what they were told and read without digesting the material; and start a conversation like an expert(including me..???).

I always thought Chinese red was the best, followed by Korean, then American. Siberian is not really ginseng at all. Now I find that American is prized in the orient for it's yin nature.

 

Chinese red has the best flavor in my opinion.

 

Any thoughts?

Here are the ranks of ginseng.

1. Korean(the best)

2. Chinese

3. American

does it say which way it doesnt flow?

No, It doesn't say because it only flows one way. Actually, there are two meridians, the one in the center of the front of the body is called 任脈(Conception Vessel); and the one in the center of the back is called 督脈(Governor Vessel). The idea was try to have them connected or united together by doing the MCO procedure. I know the description of this procedure but I never really understand what they are saying. But listening to the people who practice it, it seems to me they didn't understand it neither. It was always a mystery to me.

what does your experience tell you?

1. you are in a conversation with folks that do run their mco.

2. do you ever use RB when you play your taiji quan?

1. No, I'm not in a conversation with folks that do run their MCO. I don't know that many people practice it. I just check in with the Chi Kung site in Hong Kong from time to time. Sometimes, if I have a question, I do a google search on the net.

2. In Tai Ji Quan, RB was never mentioned in the practice. As I mention this before, RB is not a Taoist breathing method. Tai Ji Quan was developed by a Taoist. The Shaolin monks and Kung Fu artists were using this method a lot to protect their internal organs.

As for myself, I'm not here to qualify my training or experience to you.

I'm so glad that you didn't and I thank you very much for that....

A. Tao was to be protected by the unkind.

B. Tao was to be kept by the unkind.

Dawei...

I guess I can't communicate with you. I guess I'm full of nonsense.

Is there any situation or thing to which the Yin Yang does not apply to?

The intimacy between two persons with the same sex....???

This is the Wang Bi... but he simply follows He Shang Gong word for word. The Fu Yi had one extra word here so Wang Bi is just following He Shang Gong and Fu Yi.

1. 道者萬物之奧。- hidden recess / profound

2. 善人之寶，- treasure

3. 不善人之所保。 - protect

保護: protect

保存: safe keep

Which translation is more logical for line 3...???

A. It was to be protected by the unkind.

B. It was to be kept by the unkind.

Does Tao need to be protected by anybody...???

No, "A" can be eliminated.

the MCO flows in both directions, which is correct? both, spontaneously.

According to my source, the MCO flows from the Dan Tian downward around the back; then upward around the head and return by going down in the front to Dan Tian again.

This is a misunderstanding. Reverse breathing increases energy and flow, which is natural. Stagnation and a gut that sticks out is unnatural. More energy and flow = more connection with nature.

 

Natural breathing or reverse breathing...both could be considered equally unnatural in the sense that you're speaking of, because both are deviations of the breathing process due to your consciously guiding it.

 

Reverse breathing is usually called Taoist breathing...natural breathing is sometimes called Buddhist breathing, because it lacks power and is more for calming.

Who and where did you learn all these from...??? I that case, I better have my people rewrite everything just for you....

I can do it sitting. Once again you're spreading lies here.

Your own body weight is against your ass in the sitting position. As I was saying, you can do it but not for long, maybe you can only do a half ass job....

It also helps to see when the RAB is used with the MCO in the 'fire path' direction, one is truly 'burning' the energy up the spine.

 

It seems to be contradicting to my native source because a Taoist would like to have the natural flow of Nature. To them, RAB is the opposite of the NAB which is against the course of Nature.

Nei Gong is more involved with RAB for the "anal lock" practice.

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