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  3. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Nungali said:

    did you mean you have no intention to use the NEW one  (as its balanced and not 'angry red' anymore )  ?

     

    4 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

    I knew this was coming. I should have said from now on.🤣


    Some members are using it for amusement. Some are using for offensive purposes. I can see that someone doesn't like one individual, no matter what the individual posts will have the downvote icon on it. Therefore, I will not use it at all in the future to show discontentment.

  4. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    23 minutes ago, Gerard said:

    Scientific. Yin is cold to touch (ice) and likewise Yang is hot (fire).
     

    Wood expands and Metal contracts (Five Forces/Spirits science).

     


    Are you familiar with the Yijing, 易經? It seems that is where you are extracting the information from. I don't think that is supporting our original argument of interest. 

    I think We are 牛頭不答馬嘴 (a cow is talking to a horse).

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    Just now, Spiritualnewbie said:

    Is it "ok" to go the daoist path alone?? Is in my situation recommended to do this, or is it preferable to go to a local group of a spirituality that i dont want thaat much..?


    Yes, Daoist path was mostly done alone for peace and tranquillity. A Daoist does not force oneself to do something against nature.

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  6. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    Just now, Starkadr said:

    Is it possible to reach enlightenment/the end goal of your path (whatever that is) while being happy?

     

    When I was younger I was extremely devout to my practices, and I feel a reason for this was my frustration with the world beyond my control. My feeling of helplessness expressed itself in my dedication to asceticism and martial arts. I had will power but it was fueled by my anger.

     

    Only after giving up was I able to become happy. And now I have positive reasons to become someone new, to find a better path. But are positive reasons enough?

     

    My question is this: is discontent and anger a necessary impetus on your path? Or do sages get to laugh before they are sages?


    Hi Starkadr!, welcome to TDB!

    Just being happy is not possible to reach enlightenment. It takes alot more than that. However, when you reach the end goal of your path may make you happy! ;)

    Will power fueled with anger is the worse thing to your health. I am glad that you had snapped out of it.
     

    You have positive reasons to become someone new is good news. The positive reasons are good enough to get you started!

    Even sages had to go through discontent and anger but not necessary get to laugh before they are sages! Sages are human too, they also have to go through life like the rest of us too.

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  8. Posted

    36 minutes ago, Nungali said:

    I found your 'explanations'  disingenuous , all the way through ; duck, weave, excuse, red herrings, etc .  Thats easily detectable, regardless of any subject matter .

     

    Thanks for the feedback! I don’t feel too bad that is because my fellow native friends have been taken it as gospel!

     

    Peace!

  10. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    3 hours ago, Gerard said:

    Taoism (and here's where many people still don't get it), is not a RELIGION; it's actually the world's oldest SCIENCE and a very accurate one to say the least. 
     

    FYI Taoism has two categories. One is philosophy and the other is religion. In the west, however, by the term Taoism was referred as the Taotist religion.

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    2 hours ago, Nungali said:

    But I wasnt pointing out the difference between air and oxygen , I was pointing out that  oxygen is not Qi as you yourself said it was an ingredient that makes Qi .

    The problem with using the term Qi. Qi has multiple meanings. Qi: any gaseous substance, air, air containing other gaseous substances. At the time of speaking, it depends on what was in one's mind. The other must know what that means to continue with the conversation.

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  12. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    1 hour ago, Nungali said:

    ?  Air and oxygen COMBINE with food to make Qi  ? Did you leave that out accidentally or was that 'Chinese logic' .  I was following YOUR logic , but it seemed to have a hole in it  and now a bigger hole by omission of what you said before . is that Chinese logic too ?

    Food was assumed it is the glucose. It was understood if someone has the desirable knowledge in the mind. Sorry about that.

     

    As general knowledge:
    Oxygen in the air and Glucose in the foods.

     

    PS In order to get involve with the argument, one need to have some knowledge about cellular respiration. Without it, one may deny any thing. It's meaningless to argue.

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  13. Posted · Edited by ChiDragon

    On 10/14/2024 at 5:50 PM, Nungali said:

    Always good to see your translations ... however sometimes  your logic seems awry ....

     

    The above shows oxygen might be an ingrediant of air , but not its equivlence  .  IE  Qi  = Oxygen .

     

    Wrong .   By the above logic  Qi  =   Oxygen PLUS food .

     

    Go on .... explain to me how 'Chinese logic' is different   .  :) 


    In Chinese logic, anything is related or pertained within the subject are inclusive. In Chinese thinking, every thing is scrambled, filtered and sorted out in the mind. If two minds are in resonance, then, the communication is completed. The discrepancy with the western thinking is that everything has to be spelled out word for word, and with a finger point at something in order to be understood by others.

    Here is how the logic goes. Qi is air and oxygen is in the air. When we breathe in the air, the oxygen within the air goes into the body too. By logic, it doesn't matter if it is air or oxygen, the reaction will take place inside the body. You have the same result anyway.

    BTW That is the reason why I am having a communication failure here.

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    1 hour ago, Thrice Daily said:

    Yes. That’s totally cool, @ChiDragon has to get behind that.

     

    would you support this change @ChiDragon:) 

    Yes, I definitely will support anything that is related to Taoist philosophy. I think that is a great idea. The Yin-yang downvote icon warms my heart.

     

    PS I have felt the peace and harmony amongst our TDB friends already.

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  18. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Nungali said:

     

    But we have not had a vote on downvote ... how many will upvote the downvote ?

     

    What sort of 'election' counts no votes as the majority ? 

    Well, that is not a bad idea. I just hope this 'downvote' icon was meant to be applied to CD only. I just don't want to see other members get discouraged and banned themselves from TDB permanently.

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    1 hour ago, Cobie said:

    But does it say that? This is my interpretation of the characters.

     

    天 地 不 仁 

    萬 物 芻 狗  

    聖 人 不 仁 

    百 姓 芻狗 

    Chapter 5
    1.天地不仁，
    2.以萬物為芻狗。
    3.聖人不仁，
    4.以百姓為芻狗。
    5.天地之間，
    6.其猶橐籥乎﹖
    7.虛而不屈，
    8.動而愈出。
    9.多言數窮，
    10.不如守中。

    Chapter 5 In terse English
    01. Sky and Earth have no mercy,
    02. Treating all things as straw dogs.
    03. Sages have no mercy,
    04. Treating people as straw dogs.
    05. In-between-Heaven-and-Earth
    06. Is like a wind box,
    07. Vacuous but inexhaustible,
    08. Dynamic but invigorating.
    09. Excessive words accelerate failure.
    10. Prefer to stay being neutral.

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  22. Posted

    26 minutes ago, dwai said:

    IMHO, a handful of noisy members are the root cause for that. Often, these members try to pass off their opinions as fact and complain if there's a mechanism for other members to show their disapproval without expending too much energy. 

    Somebody don't even bother to do some fact checks before defying it. How can one deny the facts without any knowledge of it and assumed it was an opinion. For example, isn't cell respiration a modern truth.