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This is mostly correct. If you purchase Nathan's course(s), there is no guarantee that he will respond to any of your inquiries, even when asked in the private online community. Somebody will respond with a good and detailed response, but that person not necessarily will be Nathan.
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Return to the Dao means to become dead. Nobody need any neidan for that. This happens naturally.
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This is exactly what is coming, and not only in the world of spiritual cultivation, but in all other spheres. As a minimum, AI's generated content will replace like 90% of all information we consume on regular basis. Largely because people will get too lazy to learn how to write and present themselves online, it will be cheaper/less effort to pay to the AI to do that. More important question: is this really bad? Or is it just a version of 'plastic politics'?
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Hubris can come in very subtle ways. Sneaky snake it is.
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Emotions = chemicals registered in the brain + metabolism of bacteria in our gut. I don't think emotions have any impact on spiritual development other than serve as a distraction.
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Did Buddha teach further what to do with them? Like, discarding them or dissolving them like modern teachers teach?
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An analogy would be whether a smartphone goes beyond postal pigeon or not. Yes and no. Yes - because it certainly goes beyond and less technologically advanced nations take smartphones as unexplainable magic. No - because smartphones are just a point in the evolution in technology. Same with spiritual transcendence. As soon as it has been reached, it is just a point on a spectrum of spirit evolution. All is a hypothesis for me as I have not reached transcended states yet myself
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For me, either one is a tool for the other, so the dichotomy is a false one. One cannot integrate unless having achieved transcended states which need to be integrated anyway. And the other way - to transcend, one needs all the power that integration generates (or perhaps not only power but also uninhibited connection and energy exchange between different levels of reality).
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YOu are right about 'seeking a master'. The best way to do that is in person. If you want to approach somebody online, it is reasonably to expect a limited response in line with the way you come across in your online messages. If you connect to others with the same vibe you have demonstrated in this topic, I'm not surprised that others don't respond to you.
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Possibility of new retreats Wang Liping
idquest replied to Aleksandr's topic in Systems and Teachers of
There was a talk about WLP retreat in China in October 2025. He did resume his retreats after the Covid hiatus. -
How to know if a practice/path is ultimately beneficial? Can a practice be healing but also harmful?
idquest replied to Turnip's topic in General Discussion
All good questions. Getting sense of the practice is similar to learning how to drive a car. Until you have driven 2000 kms, you can't say you can drive. Same with qigong and/or meditation. Ironically, I'd say one needs about 2000 hours of dedicated practice to figure out some basic things. Until then, it would make sense: - don't get involved in any cultish groups - don't do anything excessive - do both body maintenance and sitting still practices - treat everything with a pinch of irony Eventually, the practice should align with your goal(s) and should not harm other people. Something like this. -
Why bother with morality and ethics?
idquest replied to Sir Darius the Clairvoyent's topic in General Discussion
We need ethics to get our spirit stronger. Some people can make their spirit stronger without being moral and ethical, but vast majority cannot. The catch is that this understanding comes later in life, when one starts developing some degree of wisdom. When this happens, it is often difficult to rectify earlier mistakes. So it is better to trust that being ethical is good, because it could be too late later on. -
Spiritual Qi like in the Wuxia Novels, Is there any here?
idquest replied to Ascetic's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
I guess this is like any speculative fiction when you don't take it literally but for the spirit of it, for the inspiration and motivation. I don't think there is any ambient energy which can act as nutrition. I think that it is more likely that there is energy that carries some kind of information in it. -
Nathan Brine referred to Wang Liping teaching exactly that to his senior foreign students right before Covid. If not for Covid, this curriculum would go deeper. I don't have information as to how it has been since then as China seems to be not very welcoming recently. The biggest take away from this for me were two ideas: - neigong/neidan is just a starting point so sweating too much on it might not bring desired outcomes - Everybody has their own path. While it is possible to train all five, such training will lack depth. But again, everybody choose themselves.
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Tom Bisio and Bruce Frantzis - Connection?
idquest replied to Robin's topic in Systems and Teachers of
From what I gather, the dissolving techniques Frantzis teaches is very similar to practice 'Kayotzarg' from Jain tradition. And later a Jain monk said to our group that Kayotzarg is similar to one of Vipassana. This is likely how Frantzis learned the technique, from Vipassana folks. Wang Liping also teaches a very similar technique which he calls something like 'Clearing the body'. In summary - this is a good technique and one can apply it with different intent and objective. But I wouldn't call it something specially secretive.- 13 replies
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