idquest
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YOu are right about 'seeking a master'. The best way to do that is in person. If you want to approach somebody online, it is reasonably to expect a limited response in line with the way you come across in your online messages. If you connect to others with the same vibe you have demonstrated in this topic, I'm not surprised that others don't respond to you.
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Possibility of new retreats Wang Liping
idquest replied to Aleksandr's topic in Systems and Teachers of
There was a talk about WLP retreat in China in October 2025. He did resume his retreats after the Covid hiatus. -
How to know if a practice/path is ultimately beneficial? Can a practice be healing but also harmful?
idquest replied to Turnip's topic in General Discussion
All good questions. Getting sense of the practice is similar to learning how to drive a car. Until you have driven 2000 kms, you can't say you can drive. Same with qigong and/or meditation. Ironically, I'd say one needs about 2000 hours of dedicated practice to figure out some basic things. Until then, it would make sense: - don't get involved in any cultish groups - don't do anything excessive - do both body maintenance and sitting still practices - treat everything with a pinch of irony Eventually, the practice should align with your goal(s) and should not harm other people. Something like this. -
Why bother with morality and ethics?
idquest replied to Sir Darius the Clairvoyent's topic in General Discussion
We need ethics to get our spirit stronger. Some people can make their spirit stronger without being moral and ethical, but vast majority cannot. The catch is that this understanding comes later in life, when one starts developing some degree of wisdom. When this happens, it is often difficult to rectify earlier mistakes. So it is better to trust that being ethical is good, because it could be too late later on. -
Spiritual Qi like in the Wuxia Novels, Is there any here?
idquest replied to Ascetic's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
I guess this is like any speculative fiction when you don't take it literally but for the spirit of it, for the inspiration and motivation. I don't think there is any ambient energy which can act as nutrition. I think that it is more likely that there is energy that carries some kind of information in it. -
Nathan Brine referred to Wang Liping teaching exactly that to his senior foreign students right before Covid. If not for Covid, this curriculum would go deeper. I don't have information as to how it has been since then as China seems to be not very welcoming recently. The biggest take away from this for me were two ideas: - neigong/neidan is just a starting point so sweating too much on it might not bring desired outcomes - Everybody has their own path. While it is possible to train all five, such training will lack depth. But again, everybody choose themselves.
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Tom Bisio and Bruce Frantzis - Connection?
idquest replied to Robin's topic in Systems and Teachers of
From what I gather, the dissolving techniques Frantzis teaches is very similar to practice 'Kayotzarg' from Jain tradition. And later a Jain monk said to our group that Kayotzarg is similar to one of Vipassana. This is likely how Frantzis learned the technique, from Vipassana folks. Wang Liping also teaches a very similar technique which he calls something like 'Clearing the body'. In summary - this is a good technique and one can apply it with different intent and objective. But I wouldn't call it something specially secretive.- 13 replies
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You might want to look at Kabala Letter U as per Franz Bardon / Mark Rasmus. THis letter U represents (as per Bardon) akasha/vacuum which is highly dissolving by nature, and one of the attributes of the letter is color black. I must warn that everybody states it is quite dangerous to meditate on this letter U, so I'd suggest doing thorough research before doing anything at all.
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If you feel connection to WLP system, Nathan is a good teacher. In fact, Nathan has practiced and learned much more than WLP system, but this is the only one Nathan teaches. Nathan's advantage is that he is fluent in mandarin and he has talked with WLP a lot. On a personal anecdote, there was an incident one time after his class when he wanted to demonstrate something to a student and accidentally released some amount of qi that was more than he wanted. The student had to sit and wait for 5 minutes before getting back to normal. When people develop their internal qi, it is no joke.
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My Experience With Tummo By Tulku Lobsang
idquest replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Thank you for the report, @Nuralshamal, very interesting. It is interesting that some students did not feel any transmission at all. Transmission is real. What is more interesting, transmission is real even via internet. I was really surprised when I discovered that. Did you feel heat/warmth as in increase in temperature in your body parts or was it as a generation of energy that would flow inside the body? -
Regardless of what qualification/degree you get in your younger years, you will have to change or adapt it 2 or 3 times during your lifetime. If you feel strongly about your desired work place right now as an electrician or care, you could apply the credits you already have to the new profession. But finishing your economics would be good because you will have a degree that will be applicable to any change you might have later in life. Getting something finished is important.
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What Hitler did to German people in 1930th is a good example of black magic. We don't exactly know what tool he used for that, but the result is well known. Ultimately, it is the intent that defines magic is black or not. The same as technology and science. It is always intent. The older I get the more I'm a proponent of the idea that ethics and morale are the most important things to muster in life.
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What is your purpose for your practice?
idquest replied to Sleepy Bluejay's topic in Daoist Discussion
Practice evolves, and the goals evolve as well. This is a moving target. This is why it is more important to do something than not to do and just try to understand what exactly to do. -
I don't argue that traditional methods of education are wrong or bad, they are good, - it is just that life has changed so much in the last 100 years that traditional methods of education don't work for majority of students.
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He looks legitimate for me and his explanations have reasonable depth. Not too much not too little. The 24 movements form he teaches has movements you can come across in numerous neigong and daoyin sets; but this does not matter. What matters is how he explains and transmits his knowledge, and this seems to be reasonably good. Have you bought it yet? A bit pricey.
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If you enjoy reading, just read all the books, they are all good - Damo, Chia, Brine/Wang Liping. If you want to achieve something real, stop reading and start practising. Reading does not bring any benefits if your goal is to achieve something with dao or yoga.
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You can look into one of Damo Mitchell's teachers Mark Rasmus. Rasmus uses different vocabulary from daoism, but essentially he teaches the same stuff.
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There is a perception of non-dual light/dao and there are preliminary practices that lead to this perception. Among the practices that lead to the perception are numerous neigong techniques, and visualization is no worse than any of those techniques. The only difference is that neigong trains 'feeling' area of brain, and visualization trains a different area of brain. So for the completeness, one needs both. As for perception of the NDL/dao - one needs none.
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The cave is a treasury, the dragon is the guardian of the treasury, the knight is short of cash (as always) so he must rob the treasury. The role of the maiden is somewhat ambiguous, she might even be the owner of the treasury, but she can''t do anything against the brute knight.
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many times personally. Nathan has studied with Nelson for several years.
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I"m actually quite impressed with what Rasmus teaches. here are some glimpses to his study material: https://vimeo.com/markrasmus/vod_pages As for the Golden Dawn, I've heard that there are literally several people (like fewer than 10) who actually understand the system.
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Regarding Bardon's system and qigong & taiji, have you looked at what Mark Rasmus teaches?
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Assuming that the goal of your cultivation is enlightenment/nirvana/samadhi - nothing will bring you to these states as I'm sure you have heard. It is a qualitative jump rather than quantitative when you move from one level to another. What yoga and qigong do - they provide your body-mind with empowerment which may help your make this qualitative jump. Yoga is good for health if practised correctly, so it is a benefit by itself. Silent sitting could also be good for health is you include internal cavity practice in your sits.
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Chanting Deity/Buddha names and The Cosmic Doctrine
idquest replied to JustARandomPanda's topic in Hindu Discussion
IMO chanting Hindu (or others) deities names is the same practice as done in Hermetics/Magic as invocation/evocation of various beings. But when it is done in Hermetics, there are a lot of security measures taken, and there is a list of friendly beings and not so friendly ones. I don't remember any security measures in Hindu deities chanting, I could be wrong though. What I'm trying to say is that you are right in a sense that poking into these practices could bring more harm than good; and following security protocols is better than not. -
I don't think there is big difference, if at all, between feeling something in various parts of the body, and visualising certain things like colours, shapes, etc. Both are senses and I can't understand why one type of sense would be preferable to the other. Ideally we need to cultivate all of them. I still voted for 'Other' to highlight two things. First - visualisation should not be used as imagination. Pure imagination is just a waste of time. Second - visualisation could become a waste of time either if it becomes a goal. As any somatic experience, BTW.
