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Powers as John Chang's....tested by some well-known scientists, who conclude that these powers are real. Then I pay every price for the seminar.

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You made some good points! I would be interested in some testimonials too...about students who tell and show what they have archieved!

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That's like in kindergarten! Why not report me to Sean...or your mother?

Ha! This "Sifu" Jenny talks like a politician: Saying much without saying anything. Now after reading this, I don't know more about the practice or the goals of Kunlun than before! It's a joke!

...well, I remembered how crazy this site is about that kunlun-shit, so I thought he was telling his true opinion.

I did upload that pic only to demonstrate that I know a little bit about dedication, hard work and self-restriction, that's all.

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WTH...? Who is so d***b to believe this new-age shit? A good Nei Kung system that will lead you to success is all about hard work, investing time, energy, sweat and tears! It's about dedication and training for hours everyday! Ask John Chang, Jim McMilan or Gary Clyman. A good Nei Kung system will give you back what you invest, there is no instant-coffee having-fun way to success in energy work! This site is going downhill more and more since guys like procurator (Wu-Liu Pai School)aren't here anymore. He knew what he was talking about! If you want the most precious thing that a human can get then you have to EARN it with HARD WORK for a long long time! Yeah, I guess Max is like Jesus (or Sri Chinmoy): Just believe in him, open yourself to hi "energy" (nothing else than reiki or prana)and he will do all the work for you lazy weaklings! Hahaha!

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Your "Ansy Energy" sounds like simple yin emptiness to me...

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Concerning the first video: If you watch and listen really carefully to that video and find a correlation to what you see if you watch John Chang using his Jing (especially when setting the newspaper on fire), then you are able to find a good clue if someone is legit or not (concerning his Jing). So, as ridiculous as that video seems to be, I think that this guy very likely a true master. "Fa Chi" is what's happening during Reiki and pranic healing. No way to affect people as seen in this videos. "Fa Shen" is bullshit. "Fa Jin" in fact is "Fa Chi" + "Fa Yi" together.

The attractions in both videos are more the acting skills of Tom Tetreault (yeah, it's the same guy) than the Jing of the "masters"... Typical: so-called master demonstrating Fa Jin on his student...

The "westernisation" of Taoism is...being able to buy a complete and real taoist system at once for big bucks from a master instead of getting it piece by piece by being a slave to a master for 20 years.

Hello Zensunni Wanderer, I totally agree with your statements you posted here! Please tell me when you find a taoist board where the people are more rational and down to earth and not living in their ivory towers, because I had no luck in that! True but sadly it won't work because the ignorance is much too deep...

Many people simply want to believe and get lulled...and go nowhere for that. Actually, they even encourage Gurus to lie to them with their blind believer attitude and their willingness to fool themselves!

Ingenious and very insightful contribution !!! Thank's for sharing this, vortex!

Dude, I was just "working this guy through" to realize quickly if he has to give something to s.o. like me who really wants to archieve something and is not satisfied with archieving "to feel good" or something. I observe the market what good systems are available....as they all (all GOOD methods concerning immortality) include similar methods whether they are jewish, chinese or indian. And someone who has a good method to offer has to be powerful as all good methods amass large amounts of chi in you (that's the raw material to work with) and also increase your ability to control chi (how else should you be able to work successful with Chi?). Many people don't get that! THAT's real power, you become more and more powerful...and that changes your character and makes it more and more stable; what shows up especially if s.o. is attacking you. I mean why becoming emotionally aggressive, defencive, ignorant or hurt if a butterfly attacks you...? So that's why I behave like that when testing a personality who claims to be great...to expose him quickly and to realize if he is powerful or not. Over the Internet, because I am unable to test his abilities in person, it's the best choice to test his character to get a clear picture fast. I got that now, no more attacking necessary. "How can you claim to know somebody if you have not fought him yet?"

Dude, the right to exist of guys like you (Gurus with a weak but inflated Ego, no real archievements but the talent to sell themselves to naive ones) is that real searchers like me in their younger years (like maybe More_Pie_Guy) can learn the hard way through getting screwed so they lose their naivety. The guys that stick to you are easy to satisfy and like the little things you offer and like getting told that they are the big deal and so you are the right one for them, because they don't deserve more. And no, you are not telling the truth. And I tell you a second time, don't bother about me, I am on the right way for myself, I am convinced of it. ...or are that last trys to "convert" me by trying to make me insecure? you are very funny! All right, I scrapped you concerning myself and so I'm done with you... Peace

Yea, because we want the real thing. Don't worry, I won't bother you any further...

And I thought I had a big Ego ... Well, the biggest Ego have always the guys who believe the opposite... Great! As if Tummo was about controlling body temperature or creating body heat... Well, you just tried to do it with proudly presenting your results in "Tummo"... All right, I know now enough about you... ...and why you and mjj are good buddies.

Me too (and everyone else with sanity and reason)... Only weakminded believers follow Gurus who give only promises but never proofs...and they get nowhere for that. Wait a minute, isn't that what every religion is all about !?