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Why not infect him with an active virus or with living bacteria and then let's see if his immune system can work more efficient than normal and that he can heal himself faster than normal like he is believing! Quoted for documentation.

I would like to invite all members who agree with thelerner's obvious conclusion, that the test, which Wim Hof took, proves that his training system increases the efficiency of a healthy individual's immune system against deseases and infections, to express their agreement with a post in this thread, so it can be assured that I get more than only one head when I later drop the guillotine of the correct interpretation of the facts!

Who cares what they talk about? The one and only thing they proved here, was that Hof is able to suppress normal immune system reactions and that's it! If you put yourself under high psychological stress, then you'll probably achieve the exact same thing. In no way was proven that he is able to influence his immune system to work better or more efficient than normal against deseases or infections. And of course, that they proved here that he is in fact able to let his immune system work worse than normal does not prove in any way that he would also be able to let it work better than normal, that conclusion is moronic! Why not infect him with an active virus or with living bacteria and then let's see if his immune system can work more efficient than normal and that he can heal himself faster than normal like he is believing!

This is no proof for anything paranormal. This is only proof, that Wim Hof is able to suppress a normal reaction of his immune system. More important, what happened here is therefore not even evidence for Hof's own belief, that his training system can make people's immune system work more efficiently against deseases. The exact contrary was proved here!

You seem to have a pretty naive and idealistic view. "What happens" is that James Randi (and similar skeptic organisations) would ignore every person like John Chang who would apply for testing and who he wouldn't be able to disprove and instead only filters out for testing the obious fakes who he can expose easily on tv. If asked, then he would possibly claim that John Chang is such an obvious fake that he isn't even worth testing. Those "skeptic organisations" aim at strengthening the "established world view", they don't aim at "finding out the truth".

Well said! Those "scientists" are irrational believers exactly like the esoteric crackpots at the other end of the spectrum. The "established" scientific world view (see wikipedia) is their religion. None of those care about facts and reality, but only about a personal belief and a feeling of psychological security. Pathetic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAnpFHU87Og Rainbow Body, Diamond Body, Vajra Body, Daylight Ascension, Celestial Immortality. The highest Level of immortality: Taking the matter of you body with you by converting it into pure energy. Result: Becoming a saint who can come and go into this dimension as he wishes and being able to appear in bodily form, visible to everybody. It's also the highest Level in Alchemy: Mastering and alchemically transforming even the matter of your body into energy and fusing it to your spiritual being. This achievement can be found as highest goal in different traditions: "Rainbow Body" in Buddhism, "Celestial Immortality" or "Daylight Ascension" in Taoism, "Vajra Body" in Tantra. Was it even Jesus' Level? Some masters achieve it during life, some masters die and then take the mass of their material body with them while the body sends out "rainbow" light. Only hair and nails remain. Please discuss: How is it done? Systems, practices, principles, evidence? "Rainbow Body" in Superhero popculture: Dr Manhattan!

Then it's not shamatha.

Swearing is against the forum rules.

Well, then you realized emptiness automatically.

"Emptiness" is the most misunderstood spiritual concept ever.

Taoist reasoning (as it was in the beginning before it became refined, when it still truly aimed for Taiji and not for pure yang) seems to have certain advantages over buddhist reasoning for comprehending the fundamental. Another reason which supports Jax' theory that dzogchen was originally born in taoism and later found a home (or exile?) in buddhism. I'd like to add: The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible.

That's a wrong translation imo, and as a quick google search shows, other philosophs come to the same conclusion like I did independantly concerning what the correct translation must be...

Always good to have the president on board...

Useful knowledge doesn't get served on a silver platter.

Big Wave Nei Kung practice, created by Master Gary J. Clyman. I like the simplicity and full body effect in this chi flow exercise system. Very simple, very effective.

Chi Kung and Wing Chun master Austin Goh demonstrating Chi Kung. I simply love this video!

Imo, Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche is the best dzogchen teacher alive.

Do you mean this person?

Old boy, but young chicks still pay good money to get sexual massage by Multiorgasmic Master Mantak, how about you? Everybody finds the right master for himself/herself and the fools find Mantak Chia...so it's no miracle that he likely makes more money than all the other masters on the market combined! The guy is probably some sort of a genius and he seemingly mastered something that the other masters didn't!