clearclouds
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Hi, this post is to introduce the Taobum members to Master Dong Yang. I am happy to let everyone know that my Daoist Teacher has agreed to start teaching on a larger scale. His name is Master Dong Yang.His direct lineage is from ZhongNan and HuaShan. Until now his teachings have been kept pretty low profile but as a genuine lineage holder in authentic Daoist knowledge he has decided that true Dao should now be taught to the greater public. His teachings cover: Internal Martial arts, Neidan(specifically concrete methods for cultivating the elixir) and teachings from the numerous classics that he himself has had handed to him within his lineage and also translated himself. As well as an achieved Daoist he is a exceptional calligrapher,artist and poet. He has a refreshing angle on many concepts of Daoism and its methods of practice. If you have any questions about Master Dong Yang you could write here or visit and send a message at the website www.LaoZiacademy.com, there's also more info on the site. There will be seminars in Australia over the coming months and Master Dong yang is looking at visiting other countries in 2008. hope this is interesting info for some people interested in Dao. --CC
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Just wondering how many TB's are in Australia, and also if anyone can point me in a good direction for any forums that have a lot of Aussies. Basically, now that my Daoist Master has decided to go large scale to the public, I thought that I'd let as many people know as possible. His are genuine daoist teachings to achieve the elixir and more importantly maintain it. In terms of the ultimate aspirations of Taoists - to Achieve Dao is one thing and relatively easy, but to maintain it and develop it toward Da Dao is the true task, it is what all results depend on, it is everything. I honestly want people to have the chance to experience his teachings, they ground the individual with functional 'creative power'(English lacks the words) for the day-to- day 'dusty' world interaction(success in life,business etc - this being a vital part of the Cultivation of balance/Dao) whilst also developing concrete mastery of 'energetic' skills be it martial, 'spiritual' or otherwise. Again, there are so many people searching for genuine lineages/teachings, how do I let them know!? So any Aussies please speak up! Else point me in the right direction to let other Aussies know, atleast to start with. In all honesty it is worth an international flight to meet Master Dong Yang but people's confidence is always strengthened by as many third party opinions as necessary. He currently has students that travel very far within NSW and also interstate on a regular basis. Many of these students searched for years before finding a genuine teacher of the methods of achieving Da Dao. Thanks for your time, and hopefully help -CC
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Group Re Translation of Taoist Yoga by C. Luk
clearclouds replied to mwight's topic in General Discussion
Hi everyone, I may be wrong, but I think this is original Text in Chinese. http://www.daoism.cn/up/data/FJMZH/fjmzh-index.htm -
Goodluck to them getting plants through Australian customs
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very true. The scary thing is how deficient and negative his face looks in the pic, "You too can suck all possible energy reserves out of your body in order to cook a small fish for fame and profit!!"
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very well put, we really need to think relative to history like this sometimes.
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was there in the winter of 2003. Amazing place although they close some of the more dangerous paths due to the ice and snow. It was great as there were only a handful of people there instead of huge groups of Chinese and Japanese tourists with megaphones and flags stayed on Nth Peak and trained one sunrise with full moon on one side and rising sun on other... .perfect
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Plato's cave is an interesting one. Some scientists have managed to turn around briefly to catch glimpses of the sun's light. Some occasionally break free to run madly up on the surface for a short while, staring into God's face, manically scratching his image into the soil with sticks. All they return with to the cave is a bag of dirt and stories. Some have quite big bags, others have their images preserved in shallow trays, but all have only their own translation of what they have seen. It is only when the occasional cave dweller looks at the smudges in the dirt and sees that the Way of the scientist can only ever be the Way of the translator . She realizes what feels like chains around her body are actually the bond of kinship between her own shadow and the shadows she sees upon the wall. She returns inward to dissolve herself of the ability to cast such a shadow, and confronts a problem; How can she exist, here in front of the blazing fire, without her resulting shadow? If she were void, yes, there would be no communion between her shadow and the wall's ones but there would also be no her. Why does she find herself wanting to free of the bonds if the only answer to this request is self-annihilation. There must be another way she thinks to herself. Suddenly there is a different kind of light that appears to her in the cave. A brightness, an infinite spec that grows to the size of a grain of rice. She realizes that this is the way as she feels the chains begin to dissolve. She realizes that there is no sun that she need break free to look for. That she is growing a sun within herself. soon its light will outshine the fire, soon it will blaze like the one the prophets and scientists, all translators, have spoken of. There will be no shadows around her. She needs no dirt to scrawl in as she will carry the true light within her own eyes to the other cave dwellers, still chained and motionless.
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Excellent post. The concept of the Tonal seems to be quite a good umbrella term for the endless array of interference that self has between itself and connection with emptiness. I wonder if they were able to take the concept beyond just theory to the extent that the Taoists did with their ability to extend life and access the unlimited power of the void for here-and-now use in life.
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The plasma universe theories really seem to fit well with Tao, specifically the fractal nature of the birkeland currents from the tiny(lab experiments) to largest( galaxy filaments). They really paint a much more interconnected view of the universe - rather than planets,stars and galaxies being unconnected isolated masses floating in space we see vast intergalatic meridians and channels who's power is expressed at intervals as the stars. maybe all earth needs is some needling on the sun
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Dedicated student searching for teacher
clearclouds replied to The inner Light's topic in General Discussion
Hi Inner Light, Just to let you know that many students of Master Dong Yang of www.laoziacademy.com have similar back story to what you have just written, and now agree on having now found a 'true' master. What is defined of as 'true' can of course be debated online forever as, on the one hand, it is seen as a very subjective/bias riddled term, but also, alternatively can be seen as a fact accepted by many people through an accumulation of experience with him over many years. The only real substantial 'proof' is your own judgement and conclusions taken from meeting your new desired master in person. The proof is in the pudding. He is currently based in Sydney Australia, but the academy is holding a Daoist tour of china in April for two weeks as an alternative option. I hope that no-one convinces you definately online about who to train with, but rather who it would be very wise to meet to draw your own conclusions. As the sort of dedication to lifetime cultivation that you are talking about is a serious matter like you say. hopefully you will get some good signposts here on TB's to help you in your search. all the best, CC -
Hi, For anyone interested in the Martial side of Cultivation, here's a couple of snippets to show the way Master Dong Yang Moves. Daoist Internal sword form, clips 1&2 Cheers
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a well thought out explanation/interpretation, I enjoyed reading it , thanks
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Great link:) sifting through a little, I put together some snippets that caught my eye
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When there's a longer and prettier video made, i'll post it and see if your comments differ, but till then all that can be offered is again what spectrum said, that people have to cross hands, or in this case swords to really prove who has mastered form. The thing is and many will agree on this point is that to judge outer form is one thing, but seeing inner form or power is entirely different. Just like laozi and chuangzi tell us, seemingly coarse or simple dao on the surface can hide unimaginable potential. So yes you may be right on a surface based judgement, but also on another level, in terms of efficiency and power, you must entertain the fact that you may be very very wrong. cheers, CC
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yeah, there's gotta be something in the burner before you start cookin'
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10,000,36,000, numerous, uncountable, basically just a way to refer to unlimited shen of all the different parts of the body. both in terms the macro systems of the organs down to the micro of the individual cells and components.
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Yep, just like in the Monkey King, no matter what your initial intention for cultivation once you take the wrong way and fire gets out of control say hello to zuo huo ru mo and goodbye to Dao. Become a lonely demon, self obsessed and self possessed, stuck in a cycle of destruction. With zuo huo ru mo, the shen is weak and not steadfast/contained with the jinqi, hence the vunrability to 'outside' body possession as well as to internal possession from an unbalance of the bodies internal 10,000 shen. Just as the huang ting jing outlines - the heart, the liver, whatever organ/shen, each have their own relation within the internal hierarchy/administration if they step out of place and one or several overrule the overseeing Ni wan then all hell brakes loose. Just like a nation in times of chaos, rebellion and war. This is the number one most important thing to avoid and watch out for constantly, no matter what the level of so called 'attainment' achieved so far. -cc
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yeah, true. Too hard to prove anything related to training on a forum, like Spectrum says only way to really show/test internal power is to cross hands, because things sometimes appear one way to some and another to others. so we'll only reach an impasse if we try to nut it out on a forum. I remember from your previous posts that you've been in the game for a long time now so I don't venture to preach to you at all - just to point out the problem with discussing masters online. kind regards, CC
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hey NWG, no prob -when I get the footage i'll post some longer vids of him, perhaps yang taiji or some xingyi. Sanyuan has been thrown around like a ragdoll so many times that its pretty easy for him take offence to any criticism, but in saying that - sanyuan, that was a little rough considering these are only snippets. -cc
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hmmm ok. each to his own. I'm not here to convince anyone, just to let people know when there's clips up for anyone interested. You can read about Master Dong Yang on the website. I have a couple of options at this point in the thread: a) Argue that Master Dong Yang's achievement of Dao, and hence superior martial ability, is beyond your ability to sense (atleast in these tiny clips like Truth said that is) - which is far too controversial and down right rude. b ) Grin and be educated about my naivety which is a bit silly to think can reach any truely sound conclusion in a to-and- fro text and video discussion via the net. c) remain cool and happy, knowing that we all can take what we want from, and judge how we want, the little snippets of someone who many for many years have considerd a Master of Daoist Alchemy. I like the c) option - each to his own p.s - Hey NightWatchDog, in answer to your Q of is it me ,my personal opinion is --- "I wish" , he has been training approx 40 yrs or so. happy training cheers cc
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hi, There's a brief summary on the site, but yeah, they went really well. There should be some video of some highlights of the seminar going up on the site and youtube in the next week or so, i'll post on TB's when it happens to let you, and anyone else who may be interested know. There's be another free intro around febuary, and there is a April 2008 Daoist Tour of china taking shape at the moment aswell. Rough outline at the moment is shanghai - huangshan - hangzhou - zhongnan - xian - huashan - beijing. cc
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Hi Everyone, Ok, good news is that the Podcasts for the entire 13/11/07 Free Intro speech by Master Dong Yang are now up on the LaoZi Academy homepage http://www.laoziacademy.com. These will be fixed permanently to the site as the lecture is the most clear and concise summary of the what Master Dong Yang's teachings revolve around and why he is now teaching openly. The lecture is broken up into 4 Parts, which totals approx 1hr It's really worth a listen! kind regards, clearclouds
