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For me, what stands out about the 12th House (having look at thousands of charts) is the preponderance of PhD's,...likely because the 12th is the House of Institutions,...besides ashrams, etc. And yes,...Pluto is a big player in the spiritual personality of a person. Many sciential minded astronomers do not consider Pluto, ruler of Scorpio, a Planet; nor an object of much significance. Contrary to their beliefs, astrology sees Pluto as representing fundamental principles of change and transformation, and perhaps the most dynamic vibration orbiting the Sun. From what astrophysicists know, Pluto certainly does not behave as other Planets. Pluto and its largest Moon, Charon, which is more like a binary planet, primarily because of there near equal size. Also of note is the unique synchronous rotational relationship the two share, as if engaged in an powerful electromagnetic dance. And if that is not eccentric enough, Pluto's center of mass, or barycenter, is said to be above the Planet's surface. In other words, although seemingly small, the energetic field produced from Pluto and Charon may very well be larger than most single Planets. Very much looking forward to New Horizons reaching Pluto in July 2015. Although I'm a Virgo Sun sign, my Chart Ruler is Pluto,...Rules Ascendant, is most elevated Planet in my chart, is most aspected Planet in my chart, and is Practical Director, that is, the Planet rising immediately before the Sun.

For anyone who would surmise that any of my posts here were "tasteless and can seriously hinder the spiritual practice of those who happen to read it" ... may Ken wilber respond for me: The Conspiracy of Mediocrity "To dare to even speak about radical transformation, let alone call other people to a higher level, is against the unstated rules. And of course, one's definitely going to be put in one's place for doing something like that. But unless the possibility of genuine transformation is actually declared, unless one is willing to demonstrate it publicallyand to call other people to the same, no one is even going to know that it's possible. And than unknowingly, everybody's going to be participating in the conspiracy of mediocrity. The conspiracy of mediocrity is basically the conspiracy to express your own ego instead of transcending it or letting go of it. The idea has become "if I can really emote and express my self-contriction with sincerity, I'm somehow spiritual". Actually, people who are involved in this boomeritis even deny the importance of Enlightenment or Awakening, because that's saying some states are higher than others - and we shouldn't be so judgemental. But guess what? Some states are higher. And so the entire raison d'etre gets tossed out because it offends the pluralistist ego. The spiritual experience, which ideally should be a stepping stone to less ego and greater transparency, has become a victim of our therapeutic culture, where we don't make judgements because that would hurt egoic self-esteem, and so all we do is embrace, console, and celebrate the personal self. Spiritual practice has become nothing more than a form of therapy where self-acceptance rather than ego-transcendence is the goal. And the problem is that therapists are basically pimps for samsara. They want to hold onto the egoic self-contraction and make it feel good about itself. This conspiracy of mediocrity is very unfortunate. The great promise of the human potential movement was very straightforward - there are higher human potentials. Now, from the therapeutic culture, people say, "wait a minute. you're saying there are higher potentials, so does that mean I'm lower? because that can't be right". All of a sudden it implied a judgement, and nobody's allowed to be higher because that means someone else is going to be lower. And you're not allowed to call anybody lower; therefore nobody's allowed to be higher. So the Human Potential movement got derailed and was replaced by this therapeutic self-expression, self-acceptence movement, which catastrophically prevents higher transformation and mystical breakthroughs. What is missing in the New Age Community is real intellectual vigor. Under the therapeutic culture, if you feel good, you're enlightened. That is mediocrity, and a conspiracy toward mediocrity.” In our current therapeutic society people don't want to see that what they thought was meaningful may actually be meaningless.

Hey Water Snake,...this is your Water Snake Return year,...you just gave away your age,...120 years old. LOL.

I disagree. It's time we become conscious of offending others. This usually upsets the offenders,..."hey, everyone uses the N word,...even the N's." Good comedy? No way! And those who laugh at such comedy are spiritually, compassionately lacking. So,...I looked up Paula Deen,...she's not a comic, but has some sort of cooking empire.

Sure....there are alot of variables,...Moon, Mercury, Uranus, Nodes, Ascendant, etc. A characteristic about Sagittarians is that they always feel they are evolving, and thus special,...but as I said,...if they can be honest enough to transcend their philosophies,...there is a path to actually evolve. IMO there were some really awesome Sagittarians,...like Osho and Gurdjieff,...but both were very honest.

I've looked at astrology quite extensively, and say that I'm very glad that I'm not a Sagittarius, nor have any Sagittarian Planets. Please don't see this as personal,...but to me, Sagittarian's overall lack the honesty necessary to authentically transcend, and thus tend to be quite shallow and dogmatic regaring their beliefs. Not saying it's impossible for a Sagittarian to actually evolve,...but it does appear to be quite a handicap. Remember,...if one really wants to be truth realized, they cannot take their philosophies with them,...and yet, for Sagittarian's, they often believe that they are their philosophies.

Rosicrucian astrologer Max Heindel wrote, "When viewed in a dynamic context, Scorpio is the source of all love, all inspiration, and through fulfillment of relationship experience, the source of all wisdom." Some might scratch their head over this quote,...but if you ponder Pluto as a sort of outer shell, then the statement tends to become clearer. For those interested,...this is an very interesting article on astrology, that has a Daoist like flavor to it: Sexuality and Energy There will be much said about the different forms of sexual expression as they manifest themselves in life. It is important to remember that above all else sex is an energy. Because this is so, the way in which an individual either distorts his sexual life or leads a healthy sexual existence depends entirely upon his or her ability to learn how to flow with the current of that sexual energy. A person who runs away from it or who blocks his flow of sexual energy may experience many problems in other areas of life. The creative drive or instinct is based upon the sexual flow. Extremely creative individuals know how to balance the sexual energy so they can get the most benefit from this divine force. Individuals who sublimate, repress, or overexpress sexual energy on a physical level tend to lose the creative power. They may never experience an in-tunement with the source of energy that provides one’s being with all possibilities and the strength to fulfill them. We are often capable of more than we think. Most individuals, however, tend to think in unproductive mind loops. We begin a thought only to follow it through a complete circle and end up disappointed when we realize we are at the beginning again. In an effort to restructure our thinking processes, we begin the same loop over again. Much of life can be wasted in this form of “mental masturbation.” Understanding how to use sexual energy to translate our life from thought to constructive activity is one of the most closely guarded mystical secrets. When we discover it – the principle is unbelievably simple. Sexual energy is like the current of a river. It flows endlessly and it winds, curves and moves. The secret of fulfillment is to flow with the current, seeing where it takes you, rather than putting mental predispositions on the nature of the river or your relation to it. By either fighting or denying the sexual current, we tend to short-circuit. We neutralize our creative power and tend to lead a stagnant lifestyle. Most people who complain that they are not making the progress they want many not be flowing with their sexual current. They may be ignoring this abundant reservoir of creative energy that God has given us. Because of this, they may lack the understanding needed in order to generate new activities, new beginnings, to develop new proficiencies, to achieve fulfilling ends. Those who know how to flow with the sexual current are rich in whatever the mind conceives. Sex and Fantasy The planet Neptune is extremely important sexually because it is symbolic of all sex fantasy. There are few people who don’t have sexual fantasies. For many, these wispy daydreams are the only way of coming in contact with the subtle unconscious. When we experience a sexual fantasy we are learning how to surface the subtle part of the unconscious as well as how to guide and control it. Sexual fantasy is similar to watching a movie in your mind. The imagination creates pictures, scenes, vignettes and stories in related sequences. These are all part of the sexual river. The conscious putting together of all these factors into a definite fantasy is one of the expressions of the creative mind learning how to ride the river. If all the different sexual factors in the unconscious remain disconnected, it is like a river flowing in seemingly purposeless directions without a central current that defines its essence. When the conscious mind forms a sexual fantasy from the Neptunian impressions it absorbs, it is creating its own movie. It’s important to realize that the ability to do this is the same as the ability to take other factors in life and put them together in some meaningful order. Sexual fantasy is far from being something that should inspire guilt or be forbidden, for it is, at the very least, the essence of the creative process. People who are unable to create sexual fantasy are unable to construct the boat through which they must ride the river of life. Instead they fell the sexual current and have difficulty relating to it. They may fear that it will take them away from themselves, or it may take them in directions they are unaccustomed to or afraid of. The current itself is definitely a Plutonian force, but when we can combine illusion with energy, the Neptunian sexual illusion or fantasy acts as a buffer for the raw energy. We can deal with the unknown (Pluto) by creatively making it known (Neptune). The raw energy then becomes channeled through the imagination in creative fantasy. Sex and Magnetism Uranus is the planetary symbol of sexual magnetism. When someone has many sexual fantasies, he tends to attract many people. The combination of the fantasy (Neptune) with the magnetism (Uranus) creates a charismatic force in the personality structure. Consider the person who doesn’t fantasize. In such a person there is no associative link between Uranus (magnetic qualities) and Pluto (the sexual current). While he may attract people through the Uranus placement, he is unable to imagine (Neptune) how to constructively use the current he feels. In such cases the combination of Uranus and Pluto may express in unpleasant ways rather than with the touch of divine love that is inherent in Neptune. The magnetic quality of sex is never really a physical thing. People believe that they are attracted to each other because of physical characteristics but that may not be the case. Uranus represent a magnetic energy that vivifies, electrifies, and gives intensity to whatever exists on the subtle (Neptune) and gross (Pluto) unconscious layers. The most beautiful female or the most handsome male with a weak Uranus will have less sexual magnetism than those people who may be less attractive but who exude a strong Uranian magnetic field in the aura. Sexual pictures and impressions may remain in the Neptune layers of the imagination unless they are sparked by Uranus. The Sex Wall Pluto symbolizes the raw sexual current. Neptune symbolizes the experience of creative fantasy which is further excited by Uranus. But what an individual does from this point on depends on how he relates to Saturn-the sex wall. Energy is one thing-imagination and fantasy are another. Sexual excitement is still another. None of these words describe sex activity. They are activities going on within the individual and are not yet manifested in the outside world. When these activities are being pushed towards expression by Uranus, each of us confronts the Saturn wall before being able to express sex in reality. We cope with our personal standards, scruples, repression’s, sublimation’s, parental or religious teachings, as well as the cautious pattern symbolized by Saturn. We fear rejection. It is at this point that we all wonder if we are capable of bringing the inner sex activities into form. This is an extremely interesting phenomenon of the sex experience because it helps explain what happens to us when we repress all that has built up through Pluto, Neptune and Uranus. Instead of moving ahead through Saturn, the inner sex activity may be blocked by the same outer planets it comes from. In essence, it retrogrades back into the inner self, causing extreme frustration. Instead of symbolizing the possibility for a higher form of awareness, the outer planets remain filled with crude sex energy (Pluto), unrequited fantasies (Neptune), and nervous excitement (Uranus). If we use our Saturn to bind ourselves to the outer planets we can become incapable of understanding the higher levels of ourselves that can occur when the outer planet energy is freed. The individual who moves through the Saturn wall, however, is able to tap into a clearer channel of this information which puts him in tune with the universe. Since information is always carried by energy, the more information available, the greater the sexual energy as well. The sex drive is replenished. The ability to move the inner sex activity through the wall of Saturn is part of a natural process that energizes both the sexual and the creative flow. Naturally, information, knowledge, and wisdom are part of this very same flow. The ability to break through the Saturn is an integral part of the growing process. The inability to break through the Saturn wall symbolizes a stagnation that may be the result of crystallizing old patterns that should be changing as we mature. Sex Risk – Sex Freedom If Saturn is used as preparation for sexual expression rather than an inhibiting wall, then Jupiter can represent the last part of what one must work through. Jupiter symbolize where we come out from behind the mask of Saturn and become vulnerable. All the inner sex activity is brought forward toward experience. In a sense, we all experience risk through Jupiter, because we come out of ourselves and make known our intention to experience sexual freedom. It is interesting to note that once an individual has been able to bring the inner sexual activity to Jupiter, many of the sexual fears, inhibitions, anxieties and mind blocks quickly fall away. Jupiter’s promise of reward for effort assures one of hope. Optimistic expansion tends to pervade and the risk factor diminishes. Since Jupiter symbolizes the last part of the experience within oneself, it shows some interesting physical characteristics. It is the largest of the planets. It symbolize a tendency to exaggerate, and if the smooth flow through Saturn has been effective it is a factor in heightening the enjoyment of the sexual experience. On the other hand, some people come to the sex activity with one foot in Jupiter and one foot in Saturn. They only come through the “wall” enough to partially experience Jupiter, and they keep themselves half behind the wall for the sake of security. One manifestation can be seen in the person who is confronted with a sexual situation he wants to experience but only talks about, using Jupiter’s repetitive qualities as a device to dissipate the energy until the reason for fulfilling the sex act (Saturn and all the planets behind it) is too unfocused to continue. Most sex problems occur somewhere between the symbols Saturn and Jupiter. Healthy normal sexuality proceeds through Jupiter’s expansive feeling of the inner sex activities to Mars (the first of the personal planets), One can feel sexuality (Pluto), imagine it (Neptune), experience inner magnetic excitement (Uranus) and feel the need to put it in form (Saturn) by abandoning all impediments to the flow of current (Jupiter). But it is not until one takes the first step in initiating sex action (Mars) that sex becomes a personal and intimate endeavor. Here all the richness of the outer planets is focused into the personal part of one’s being. The Good – Evil Quality Many individuals have experienced that sex carries with it tinges of the “good-evil” syndrome. On a spiritual level we say that it shouldn’t-but it often does. There is reason for this. Originating from Pluto, from the very depths of the unconscious where mankind stores away unacceptable thoughts, the sex urges must move through Saturn, where our judgmental qualities act as a filter before it is freed through Jupiter. These two planets, Saturn and Jupiter act as balancer’s between restriction and expression. They symbolically weigh each sexual situation carefully and give each person the opportunity to understand his personal role before he acts. The outer planets represent the rules of the culture and the time in history just prior to our personalizing the role we will play in the sex act. In truth, sex is neither good nor evil. It just is. When an individual is attempting to bring the inner sex-activity into personal focus there is much yin and yang in terms of social acceptance (as represented by the sexual partner). Each person wants to feel there is sanction in doing whatever he or she needs. At this point, the ego of the partner becomes the focus of social acceptance. Outer Sexual Expression There is a big difference between inner sex activity and outer sex activity. One involves the creative process stemming from the sell, while the other meets the self-mirror through a partner. Once sex activity moves outward, it enters the law of cause and effect in the outer world. Action and reaction become interwoven. In the inner sex activity there is still cause and effect (action and reaction) but both roles are being played by different parts of the same person. In the outer activity this is no longer so. Mars rules the astral or desire body. As we begin to experience outer sex activity, we start to project the mirror of inner thoughts onto a partner. As a result of these projections (causes) there are reactions from the partner (effects). It is important to realize that all outer sexual expressions depends upon the partner receiving and acting out the projected mirror. At the same time, the partner has a mirror of his own. Are we saying that during sexual expression, individuals are really having sex with themselves? Yes, but the difference between the inner sex activity and the outer sex expression is that in the outer expression each individual is really helping the other to have sex with himself. While this exists, it is not true on all levels, nor is it true for all people. Since individuals differ, one’s astral mirror may easily dominate another. When this occurs we think of the person as being sexually selfish. The aggressive nature of Mars must be experience in order to filter the inner sex activity through the personal ego. Some people have to do it in “selfish” ways while others have a much more expansive ego and do not need strong astral mirror. The point is that this is a stage at which the free thoughts symbolized by Jupiter become focused through the personal quality of Mars to bring about physical sex. Whether the male or the female takes the leading role will depend upon two factors. First, the individual who is looking at himself most will invariably dominate the experience. Second, we must understand that some individuals are able to experience sex all the way through this point without ever coming completely through the wall of Saturn. People who complain that they are unable to each orgasm are unable to let go of their Saturnian defenses. They are not fully present in the act itself. Since Saturn is the planet of Karma, these individuals are working through sex karma with every act. The more they learn how to use Jupiter and Mars, the easier it is for them to move through Saturn. Slowly they learn their karmic lessons. The Love Experience As Mars energy is expended, sex changes to incorporate feelings of love and the activity moves to Venus. The harsh impatience of the Mars phase changes to gentle caring and tenderness as the energy is transmuted into a more gentle energy. The need for expression develops a need for giving and sharing. The friction of Mars becomes a delicate blending of energies as an exchange of energies is experience. The male absorbs the female energy at this stage. The female absorbs the male energy. It is at this point where the male feels more feminine. The female feels more masculine. Through the absorption of male energy she is able to experience the yang of equality of life. As the male absorbs her energy he experiences the yin quality. Thus, the love experience adds balance to what would otherwise be incomplete sexual expression. Some individuals have difficulty reaching this stage. They avoid the absorption of opposite sex energy which stops the flow of the sexual experience at Mars. By trying to hold onto the ego, sex becomes separated from love and they miss the very important energy exchange that takes place through Venus. Understanding One of the biggest problems between people has always been communication. People are just not able to talk about what they mean to each other. Instead they circumvent, avoid, use illogical thought patters and whatever devices they can invent to keep themselves from conveying the ideas they so badly need to convey. Once a man has the female energy in him, he can understand her. In essence, he is her. The two have become one in mind. At the same time, her absorption of his energy enables her to understand him, for she is him as well as herself. This is the function of Mercury. Crude sex energy is too powerful to be handled by the mental centers in the body, but once it has been expressed through Mars and softened through Venus, it slowly rises to these same mental centers. The result is a mutual understanding between individuals which could not occur through any process other than sex. All of the understanding that each individual has a s a gift for the other (stored in the outer planets) has been filtered, refined and gently transferred as the love experience is accepted by both partners. The understanding that comes from this transfer is experienced by those who realize after sex that they seem to be on the other person’s wavelength for quite a while. There is a meshing of frequencies between the partners. If they sex activity goes all the way to Mercury, this blending into s singular frequency is extremely fulfilling and may last for weeks. Sex that ends before the harmonious transfer of energies through Venus is much less fulfilling, establishes a weaker link between the two and needs to be repeated more often with less benefit. We have seen how sexual activity begins as crude energy (Pluto) that moves from the outermost planet inward, until it finally reaches overt expression starting with Mars. It continues inward on intimate personal levels, ultimately (when it can) reaching Mercury which symbolized that very special form of communication that sex truly is. Fulfillment The ability to release pent-up emotions is possible only when an individual knows that his most private thoughts can be understood and accepted. The Moon symbolizes the reflection of the self in an attempt to find acceptance and can only be fulfilled after sexual activity has reached the level of understanding through Mercury. This complete fulfillment may also be a part of the symbolic returning to the womb. The individual feels that he or she has been nourished totally by the correct understanding source. Thus, emotional orgasm is possible. Many people experience a physical orgasm, but few know what an emotional orgasm is about. They believe that because their bodies are tired, drained or no longer able to continue the sex act, or because they have secreted certain hormones that they indeed reached orgasm. This is only on a physical level. The mental orgasm occurs through Mercury when we realize that we are fully understood by another. The emotional orgasm occurs through the Moon, when the home within oneself is reached. The Moon nourishes, and through its ability to retain memories, it can carry the strength of a single creative sexual experience within us for quite some time. It gives a feeling of birth, along with the emphasis to move forward in other areas of life. One When this complete orgasm is achieved, we have used all of our planets except the Sun, the basic idealistic perfect self. The birth feeling that results from the emotional orgasm of the Moon brings us to the center of being from which all else emanate. We find that the sexual activities start from an unresolved state (ten planets) and end with the blossoming of our center through our Sun. It is like a funneling of energies toward that one focal point of being that we always strive to attain.

No,...that would be a 9 of Clubs http://www.destinycards.org/cards.php?birthday=03%2F27%2F1996

Keep in mind,...there are 4 levels of Scopio....the scorpian (the stinger), grey lizard (the secretive one), Royal Eagle (the philanthropist), and the Phoenix (who has likely transcended the lower chakras). Water signs are observed to be sensitive,...but let's say someones Neptune (the higher level of Venus, ruled by Pisces) is well aspected to Mercury,...you may have a highly intuitive person,...but under a Sun sign Aries, may rush off to the next adventure without using such intuition. My personal experience with astrology is this: After reading a statement signed by 186 scientists in the September 1975 issue of The Humanist called “Objections to Astrology,” I decided to research the subject. I wanted to acquire a sufficient background to verify astrology’s lack of validity and debunk the beliefs of astrologers. The scientists in The Humanist had said, “The time has come to challenge, directly and forcefully, the pretentious claims of astrological charlatans.” Therefore, during a long Montana winter, I studied the topic and searched for evidence to dispute astrology’s assertions. Instead of unveiling charlatans, however, I emerged from my research with an unexpected appreciation of the simplicity and veracity of astrology. I realized why no one has ever proved astrology wrong. For anyone to say that the planets around us do not exert forces, albeit subtle, is like saying that the seasons do not affect the clothes that we wear or the foods that we crave. It would be like claiming that our moon has nothing to do with ocean’s tides or that the orbital distribution of electrons within an atom does not influence its nucleus. Viewing astrology only through the blinders of a sciential point of view, instead of through the point of view of what is being observed, is paralogical. To differentiate my assessment of astrology from a relative perspective, consider Bode’s law. If the earth were one measure from the Sun, then Mars would be 1.5, the asteroid belt 2.5, Jupiter 5, and Saturn 9.5, relationships less in relative distance than the particles within the volumes of many atoms. The influence that celestial bodies have upon the disposition and character of our bio-electrodynamic form within the invisible energy field of physical life, from my observations, is real, not imaginary. To me, astrology is one way in which our physiological vehicle interacts with the universe, and yet the general populace rejects this profound, observable, integrated rhythm. Just as there is a rhythmic vibration that influences an atom from the electrons moving around it, there are rhythmic vibrations from the planets that influence us.

So,...you mean around March 28, 1996? That make you an 8 of Clubs http://www.destinycards.org/cards.php?birthday=03%2F28%2F1996

That's an interesting observation. Of course, the final level of Scorpio, the phoenix, could be transitional in your Sign Theory. I do agree, as other's, that "Old Souls" could be divined in birth chart,...probably through the South Lunar Node and how it's aspected. http://www.amazon.com/Karmic-Astrology-Volume-Moons-Reincarnation/dp/0877282889

Pisces, which Rules the 12th House of "Self Undoing" is surely a spiritual sign,...or one focused on physical undoing as in drug abuse. But yes,...much info through planetary vibrations. Sun, the nature of our vitality; Moon sign, how we express our emotions; Mercury, our communication style; Venus, how we love; Jupiter, how we expand; etc. And then there's the transits,...like how can we find a great relationship,...for example, through a cinderella transit. http://www.jupitersweb.com/magi-astrology-aspects.html

Of course,...beyond the me that I think I am, is a Suchness, that's inseparable from the Suchness beyond who you think you are. Ever read The Mountain Doctrine?

LOL Yes,...there appears to be some validity about Sagittarius, but it is much more complicated than the simple Sun sign. Sagittarius Rules the 9th House,...thus, planets posited there tend to be more philosophically or spiritually orientated. Then, there the Planet that Rules the cusp of the 9th House,...another indicator. In my case, I'm a Virgo, with a stellum of Planets in the 9th. Many astrologers will say that the Sun only represents about 6% of one's chart. Nevertheless, Sagittarius Sun signs have a characteristically philosophic mind,...mentally and inwardly they range the universe, and believe they are always evolving.

The author of that quote uses stuff like this: http://www.slimeworld.org/xxaxx/jbc_ndx.html Unfortunately,...to try to understand these activities before doing them, lessens the experience. When I did them myself, I hadn't a clue to what I was doing....thus as the Club states: Not jumping to conclusions Another way could be through Connected Breathing. I found the following book to be exceptional on the subject http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rebirthing-Made-Easy-Self-Knowledge-Compassion/dp/0959001409 Although, after I read that book in the early 90's,...went for a 3 week workshop with Len Orr,...an experience unlikely to be forgotten.

Some say,...if want the truth, you can't take any of them (religions, beliefs, philosophies) with you.

How so? I'm not even me. The me I think I am is just a delusion. If you wish,...you can be me all you wish,...for I sure don't want to me. I'd rather relate with what will never leave me, and from which I can never leave.

I resonated with a comment on emotions in 'Practical Work on Self' by EJ Gold, he writes: "Real emotions are communicated by outward radiation of the mood, and originate through an awakened emotional center, which has no reverberational effects in other parts of the body, and is not necessary to verbally communicate the emotion. Positive and negative emotion are subjective mental states occuring in reflex, and must be verbalized and elaborately described, explained, rationalized and mentally communicated and understood. Those who can produce real emotions in themselves never communicate about emotional states in mental language; they just radiate the emotions, allowing the emotion to speak for itself. In the presence of someone who is able to produce real emotion, we experience feelings - perhaps for the first time. Very often, someone who has awakened the higher Emotional Body and who has learned to radiate emotions becomes a celebrity-guru, and people gather like cattle to bathe in the higher emotions. These higher emotions are often mistaken for some mysterious cosmic force or interpreted in some pseudo-religious way, but really they are just emotions. What a pity that human beings are so unaccustomed to emotion that they feel compelled to submissively huddle together in the warmth of the emotional radiation of someone just as mechanical as they are, but who happened to have activated, by accident, the higher Emotional Body."

Rambutan's are the prevalent fruit here at the moment. I lived on a rambutan orchard in Hawaii once, and spent many days picking and packaging them, so they bring back alot of memories. Didn't know durians were durians,...I thought them to be a variety of bread fruit,...which from the description, has a similiar strong odor (such as one would expect from a King of Fruits). I'll stick to the feminine fruits like mango and papaya. I suppose they could be an enlightenment tool,...wake up, or eat a durian everyday,...you'll either wake up quick, or get to like durians.

I look forward to hearing of your future Templeton Prize,...seriously!

Ditto! Some suggest, and I agree, that Buddhism is a tradition of inquiry into the true nature of reality. For example, Sakyamuni Buddha was not seeking enlightenment, but inquiring into the true nature of suffering. IMO, if you fully understand one thing, you will understand everything. Or, as a Tibetan once said,..."Cultivating flowers reveals the innocence still seedling in whatever is beheld.”

Yes,...future conversations. Let me know more about how you harmonize the feeling that Jesus taught unconditional love,...or that the god of the bible could possibly have a grasp of unconditional love,...with the actual facts. Most Christians believe the God they invoke while spreading their faith, is love. However, in the whole of their Holy Book, the Bible, it only suggests the idea that their God is love at the very end, in the late 2nd Century apology 1John. In fact, when viewing the full length and breadth of the Bible, their Patriarch is clearly a murderous, pro-slavery, vacillant, petty, racist, conditional God. And amazingly, a God who is so insecure, that it demands to be worshiped, obeyed and prayed to. Regardless of the above, let's look at the New Testament. Christian love is often considered the highest love, but as I said, that too is merely a conditional love. The Great Love Chapter of Christendom, Corinthians 13; says, "love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things", 1 Cor 13:7. However, look at it,....that isn't Unconditional Love, but the submission, devotion, expectation and suffering to the conditions of their religions brewed beliefs. Unconditional love has nothing to do with the conditions of bearing, believing, hoping, or enduring. OK, the mass murderer, Saul/Paul of Tarsus actually said that,...who according to eminent theologians, such as Robert Eisenman, the Essenes called this self-ordained apostle of the Gentiles “the Spouter of Lies.” So, let's look specifically at Jesus. JESUS' FAMILY VALUES? --"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:26). "I am come to set man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household" (Matt. 10:35-36). When one of his disciples requested time off for his father's funeral, Jesus rebuked him by saying "Let the dead bury their dead" (Matt. 8:22). Jesus never used the word "family" and he never married or fathered children. To his own mother, he said, "Woman, what have I to do with thee?" (John 2:4). WHAT WERE HIS VIEWS ON EQUALITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE?--Jesus encouraged the beating of slaves: "And that servantt(read: slave), which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will shall be beaten with many stripes" (Luke 12:47). He never denounced servitude, but quite the contrary, incorporated the master-slave relationship into many of his parables. He did nothing to alleviate poverty. Rather than sell some expensive ointment to help the poor, Jesus wasted it on himself, saying, "Ye have the poor with you always" (Mark 14:3-7). No women were chosen as disciples (or apostles-Ed.) or invited to the Last Supper. WHAT MORAL ADVICE DID JESUS GIVE? --"There be eunuchs (Webster defines a eunuch as 'a castrated man in charge of an Oriental harem or...any man or boy lacking normal function of the testes, as through castration or disease'--Ed.), which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." (Matt. 19:12). Some believers, including church father Origen, took this verse literally and castrated themselves. Even metaphorically, this advice is in poor taste. The "Golden Rule" was said many times by earlier religious leaders. [Confucius said, "Do not unto others that you would not have them do unto you"]. "Turn the other cheek" encourages victims to invite further violence. "Love they neighbor" applied only to fellow believers. (Neither the Jews nor Jesus showed much love to foreign religions). A few of the Beatitudes ("Blessed are the peacemakers") are acceptable, but they are all conditioned on future rewards, not based on respect for human life or values. (As I have said so often, you should do the right because it is the right thing to do, not because you expect rewards or kickbacks someday-Ed.) On the whole, Jesus said little that was worthwhile. He introduced nothing new to ethics (except hell). He instituted no social programs. Being "omniscient," he could have shared some useful science or medicine, but he appeared ignorant of such things (as if his character were merely the invention of writers stuck in the first century). WAS JESUS PEACEABLE AND COMPASSIONATE? --The birth of Jesus was heralded with "Peace on Earth," yet Jesus said, "Think not that I am come to send peace: I came not to send peace but a sword" (Matt. 10:34), "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one" (Luke 22:36), "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27). In a parable, but spoken of favorably. the burning of unbelievers during the Inquisition was based on the words of Jesus: "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth..., and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." Jesus looked at his disciples "with anger" (Mark 3:5) and attacked merchants with a whip (John 2:15). He showed his respect for life by drowning innocent animals (Matt. 8:32) and refused to heal a sick child until pressured by the mother (Matt. 15:22-28). The most revealing aspect of his character was his promotion of eternal torment. "The Son of man (Jesus himself) shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth" (Matt. 13:41-42). "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched" (Mark 9:43). Is this nice? Is it exemplary to make your point with threats of violence? Is hell a kind and loving idea? Would an unconditional loving person condemn someone to eternal hell just because they offended him? Remember this as you "study" the Bible,...only in recent centuries have we begun to discern the holy books of our theo-belief systems critically, rather than deliberating on them solely for display and devotion. Devotional reading is not Bible study. Bible study is engaging in the activity of asking the same questions that we normally ask of other books. We commonly inquire: Who wrote this? When was it written? Why was it written? Where was it written? For what purpose was it written? Many of us ask ourselves these questions every time we pick up a secular book. However, such questioning, especially in an environment of hope, fear, and faith-driven moderatism or conservatism, is generally viewed as a threat.

Yes, that's a great point,...but why? Is it because those with estrogen are suppressed in nearly every society on the planet,...thus high testosterone makes one feel in the male club? I once watched a documentary called: Middle Sexes - Redefining He and She,...where a low-self esteem, asexual gal took testosterone, and within days became a confident, insatiable dee-boy (with a vagina of course). In Thailand there are lots of Dee's...the tom-dee culture.

Lao Tzu said, "to eliminate the vexation of the mind, it doesn't help to do something; this only reinforces the minds mechanics (monkey mind)…. "the ego is a monkey catapulting through the jungle; totally fascinated by the realm of the senses....if anyone threaten it, it actually fears for its life. Let this monkey go. Let the senses go…. Recognize that everything you see and think is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth."

Although only implied,...are you suggesting that testosterone is more creative, better at thinking than estrogen? I'd certainly agree that testosterone is much more cerebral-centric, that i, better at thinking,...but we all know what Lao Tzu thought of thinking. Lao Tzu said, "there is nothing more futile and frustrating than relying on the mind. To arrive at the unshakable, you must befriend the Tao. To do this, quiet your thinking."