Vmarco

If you reduce the problems obscuring the Birthing of Human Beingness sufficiently enough, the key is he obliteration of Christianity,...I'd say that England would be the best Country to penetrate the Christian meme,...totally annilating this hideous virus,...and the rest of the World could not ignore it. As the delusion of Christianity falls,...Islam and Judeaism will collapse behind. Only then,...IMO,...following the collapse of theism,...can an enlightened World arise

Excellent commentary on the subject,...thanks for sharing it.

GI Gurdjieff used to say (from what I've read)...the most difficult thing in life is to "do." In his opinion, less than .2% ever "do" anything their entire life. He called those who have done at least one thing, the five of twenty of twenty. Of course,...everyone on this forum may believe they are among the ,2%. As for myself, from my observations, that number is far too high,...at least in the USA, where I've spent much of this life. In the USA, I'd suggest a number closer to .02% "Five of twenty of twenty" according to Gurdjieff, suggests that only 20% of humanity ever consider higher realities, and of those just 4% of humanity consider it seriously. Thus, only .2% of humanity ever make the committment to actually realizing how to Do. This is explained (how to "do" something) fairly well in the book In Search of the Miraculous. consciousness and thus human beingness.

That's a good way to broach the subject of the 6 senses,...which do not, and cannot, see things as they are,...thus only an illusion of free will. People who live solely out of the 6 senses for their identity are indeed "cattle like" or Sheeple,...barely human,...compared to one who has birthed Human Beingness, by ascending as it were, to the 7th or higher consciousness,...no longer attached to thoughts, feelings, beliefs, etc. The 6 senses (seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching, and thinking) only occur in the past,...and thus what real "will" is invoked through reactions to the past, in the past. The 6 senses do not interact with a world that surrounds them, but merely a world that surrounded them. Awareness of how things are, only arises from beyond the 6 senses/consciousness'. For those inquiring about "free will",...good for them,...for such is a step to uncover what the 6 senses conceal.

I like your post,...however, let's talk semantics,...there can never be a "direct experience" through knowledge,...only through gnowledge. The difference between what is knowledge and gnowledge must be recognized. Nothingness can be experienced through the barycenter of the upper 3 chakras, of which the physical pineal is considered one. Anything thing of the 6 senses or lower 6 consciousness', cannot observe nothingness. Unobscuring the 3 barycenters,...of the physical, mental, and heart,...are necessary to "see" things the way they are. Such "seeing" of Suchness is at the 7th or higher consciousness of alaya, from where an awareness of the Present is realized.

I understand that this is a consensus among many, however I have doubts,...not only because I have not experienced it, but after some 40 years of thoughtful practice, I've concluded that only two women in heartful harmony with each other, are able to transmutate the sexual energy of a willing male partner. Most women, and males, look upon 3 (w/w/m) as immoral, or a male fantasy reserved for the wealthy or largely endowed. Many women fill that they should have 2 male partners,...little realizing that 2 male partners within any given 7 months is detrimental to a woman's body and spirituality, as male sperm always, as a matter of uncontrolable inherent function, seeks supremacy over other male sperm. A female has a more naturally, emotional orgasmic flow,...however, this flow is obscured because of beliefs, and thus seldom developed,...or better said,...uncovered. On a physical, animalistic level, sex is about making babies. I readily observe the human animal everytime I see a pregnant woman. There are other levels of sexual behavior,...and to understand that, keep in mind always, that everything that has energy is sex,...everything in the phenomenal world is sexual,...Yin/Yang. But don't mistake Yin/Yang as 1 female/1 male. Every physical substance depends on a Law of Three,...and that Law is not 2 males and 1 female. If a woman wants to permeate herself in her animalistic nature (which most do), they seek a sperm mate to provide a particular child, and a level of financial security, so her and her children can have an adequate physical life. If a woman wants to permeate herself in her spiritual nature (which most don't), they will be open to a male who pursues the same goal,...both realizing they cannot cling to a notion of "death do us part," as animalistic people (what are called the morally upstanding)do. Speaking of morality,...I love the following quote from a 20th century Tantric: “Morality can only be imposed from without when we are asleep. It can only be pseudo, false, a façade, it cannot become your real being…morality is bound to be nothing but a deep suppression. You cannot do anything while asleep; you can only suppress. And through morality, you will become false. You will not be a person, but simply a “persona”—just a pseudo-entity. . . . Only a dishonest person can be moral.”

No,...the physical dantian is the barycenter of the first 3 chakras,...the mental dantian is the barycenter of the upper 3 chakras. Only when these two are fully aware of,...is the heart center uncovered as the barycenter of all three dantians. Trying to find truth without recognizing the false is futile,...likewise, seeking the heart before the physical and mental dantians are centered, won't happen. This is way I often mention that no Christian, that is, a person who clings to a belief system for their identity, will ever uncover their Unborn Awareness,...beliefs are barriers that veil the heart.

I wouldn't say that at all. The physical practice of Tai Chi could lead to the Heart Center,...but few, IMO, have any idea about that. The Heart Center is the most difficult to uncover. The usual progression is physical, mental, and then heart. I've had discussions with a few who mastered the physical, like Master Koichi Tohei, who was quite advanced in the physical and mental centers, but not yet the heart. My very liberal guess would be that less than .2% of all people on the planet have ever had a Heart Center experience. Lao Tzu said, "To attain pure Tao you must understand and integrate within yourself the three main energies of the universe: The first is the earth energy. Centered in the belly, itexpresses itself as sexuality. Those who cultivate and master the physical energy attain partial purity; Second is the heaven energy. Centered in the mind, it expresses itself as [the wisdom beyond knowledge]. Those whose minds merge with the Universal Mind also attain partial purity. Third is the harmonized energy. Centered in the heart, it expresses itself as spiritual insight. Those who develop spiritual insight also attain partial purity. Only when you attain you achieve all three - mastery of physical energy, universal mindedness, and spiritual insight - and express them in a virturous integral life, can you attain pure Tao."

Exactly,...well said.

I'm into the Gurdjieff school of thought that says, anyone who gets bored, should kill themselves (as stated in a previous discussion on boredom). Personally, I haven't been bored for about 40 years,...since I let go of the need for distractions and diversions. In my view, no one should called themselves a master of anything if they get bored.

Find the consciousness you had before you were born (your unborn awareness),...a Lojong proverb

Distractions and diversions. Again,...those seriously interested in Who they are,...simply uncover When you are. Use nete-neti. Relate with only that which will never leave you, and from which you can never leave. And unexpectedly you'll unveil real love.

How does one recognize a Real Spiritual Teacher? They are as assassins of ego,...and the 6 senses. Arthur Blessitt, Eric Yoffie, Damon Denson, David Barton, Jesse Duplantis, Ali al-Sistani, Thich Nhat Hanh, Leila Ahmed, Neale Donald Walsch, Joseph Ratzinger, Gibril Haddad,...all highly thought of as Top People by society,...and yet not a single Real Teacher among them. They tell their students what their students want to hear,...never the truth. They wouldn't recognize truth if it was in front of them,...which by the, it is..

Remember,...how Mr G was big into "Stop Exercises?" That very well may be incorporated into his music,....sounds that lead you into a state of being,...an then stops. Enlightenment within 2 years,...for sure,

Be careful of that,...as Gurdjieff said, our Chief Feature, that is, the number one obsticle to Truth Realization, is usually what we like best about ourselves,...which is to say, the the understanding arising from our 6 senses..

A natural pace? As you enter your stillness within, float above the ground as that stillness reflects itself in the physical,...the whole world will move below you, in the next 24 hours. Imagine all the airfare you'll save.

The fact is this,...you will never uncover Who you are, until you first realize When you are. As for the phrase "unchanging truth"...that is a redundancy, if you're speaking of absolute truth. In other words,...wherever you see change, you see the way things are not. One key for uncovering truth, is to not seek truth,...seek and find everything that is false. A Buddhist once said, "The real seeker of truth never seeks truth. On the contrary, he tries to clean himself of all that is untrue, inauthentic, insincere - and when his heart is ready, purified, the guest comes. You cannot find the guest, you cannot go after him. He comes to you; you just have to be prepared.

When living in Puerto Vallarta, I'd stopped at the plaza in Ixtlan every time I'd go to Guadalajara, and ponder on things. My favorite book however was The Art of Dreaming,...perhaps his 8th book. “The mind cannot comprehend an entirely new idea until a corresponding vibratory brain cell has been prepared to receive it.” Charles F. Haanel

Don Juan Matus implied to anthropologist Carlos Castaneda that everything is the same thing; we simply view the same assemblage points from a different perspective and thus perceive differences. Perceived reality is always relative to our perceptions. Actual reality, that is, the way things actually are,...beyond all beliefs,....is much different than sensory based perceptions. Don Juan was a nagual. Naga, meaning Wise Serpent, is one of the few words that span both centuries and continents. For instance, Nargals were Chaldean chiefs of the Magi, and Naguals were, and are, the title of the brujos of some tribes of Mexican Indians, dating back to at least Quetzlcoatl, the Plumed Serpent.

A Buddhist might respond,...look at everything you perceive as a dream. Lao Tzu said, "Recognize that eveything you see and think (6 senses) is a falsehood, an illusion, a veil over the truth...the ego is a monkey catapulting through the jungle; totally fascinated by the realm of the senses....if anyone threaten it, it actually fears for its life. Let this monkey go. Let the senses go." Did not René Descartes, concerning the senses, articulate, “All that I have tried to understand to the present time has been affected by my senses; now I know these senses are deceivers, and it is prudent to be distrustful after one has been deceived once.”

Although cosmologists Steven Hawking and Jim Hartle can theorize through mathematics (see #32 above),...I have full cognizance that There is No Present in Time,...and thus proof that no Big Bang existed. You may feel compelled to discuss Big Bang theories as if you had proof that they do exist,...but you don't and never can In other words, if you believe in Big Bangs, you are attached to dishonesty,...and as long as you are so attached,...spiritual reality will be obscured from you. You cannot be both Truth Realized, and attached to the way things are not,...no matter how much your 6 senses wants to believe it can. Beliefs are infinitely complex,...and most will attack those who may upset those beliefs. The truth is simple. The ultimate truth of Taoism and Buddhism is simple. Lao Tzu said, "the Tao doesn't come and go." Sakyamuni said, "the Tathagata doesn't come and go." Master Liao doesn't comprehend such simplicity,...but has talked alot about what is not true,...and those who are untrue, love listening to those whose untruth is similiar to their own.

Honesty has no need of luck. Attachment to theistic and other beliefs need luck,...to break the cycle of dishonesty. It's all about honesty,...and no honest person promotes a "connection with gods" or teaches that Chi is a force, instead of that from which force arises. As a New Age Purveyor said, "we need to draw our attention to what is false in us, for unless we learn to recognize the false as the false, there can be no lasting transformation, and you will always be drawn back into illusion, for that is how the false perpetuates itself"

I'm not accepting students,...nor am an expert in the dream of perceived life,...thus your beliefs far surpass all my relative knowledge. I will offer this,...be a perfect student to your mundane pursuits, and perhaps next lifetime, you'll recognize an interest beyond clinging to dishonesty to make what you don't understand more palatable..

Have you seen a Big Bang? If not, why are you discussing it as if you know about Big Bangs. There was no Big Bang. Lao Tzu and Sakyamuni would agree with Cosmologists Steven Hawking and Jim Hartle, who in their No-Boundary theory, said that since time loses characteristics that separate it from space, the concept of a beginning in time becomes meaningless. There is no BigBang, no singularity, creation or creator, because there is no time.