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I love those chants, I downloaded them and listen to them when meditate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g263N4XzoZo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di8y4IYe6dE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyIIObFyK4I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU1La7k-ajs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLF-pqLYlcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4noQ0MD1_8s there are several chants that are repeating but I like the videos which are different, I hope you enjoy <3<3<3

you know what they say: -if you take aspirin the cold will pass away in seven days -if you don't take anything the cold will pass away in one week -if you take a vaccine shot the cold will pass away in one month

immortality is not the memory of others even if that helps. there are plenty of immortals unknown anonymous that erased their personal history having no one to remember them. you figured it out. it's about wearing the body but you have to know that our bodies are complex machines. we as living systems are made of five types of energies. the taoist five energies are different than the five skhandas of budhists. we are born with a karmic heritage that is already unbalanced and the living conditions and growing as adults usually increase this out of balance. The more unbalanced the closer to death we are. There are very few peoples lucky enough to have a balanced life without even knowing, they were born in the right place doing the right things and living a long happy life. These are the exceptions. For them maybe the right thing to do was to eat meat or to drink wine or to smoke to keep their energies in balance. But it is not the same for everybody. Usually the more out of balance you are, the quicker you figure out there is something wrong with your system and seek the balance. And sometimes even seeking the balance may wear out some organs by boosting the type of energies you need to cultivate. Also in the cultivation practices may appear the inertia that may harm you by doing too much. Doing too much is also out of balance so ultimately we need to cultivate balance before anything else. It is like learning to drive a car but before you mastered it you may have done a lot of mistakes that wear out your car or even had an accident.

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There is something wrong in your logic. They died early but they became immortals. Or at least they learned how to become and in a future life they will become. Still doesn't prove anything, so what? Jesus died at 33 and became the King of the World. If you have a atheistic-materialistic paradigm then yes there is no point to cultivate anything, live your life and die. The reason we are living maximum 100 years is because we are engineered that way, we as a species were genetically manipulated, this is the only explanation I could find. But reality is much more complex than that, is not just DNA and how much is your lifespan. THEIR systems results is NOT longevity. Longevity is a myth that come from the fact that cultivators regain the youth 'appearance' because melatonin secretion is increased due to meditation. Also melatonin is considered the 'self healing hormone' that cause disappearing the illnesses and darkening the white hair. But also there are more than one variable here, human body is a very complex mechanism. Also there is the myth of old hermits living in caves for several hundreds of years living only with air. But who would want that life? They are in a self mummification process. It's better to live 60 years but to be healthy and fit until the last second of your life than to live 80 or 90 being paralyzed or hunchbacked or having alzheimer. so speak Zarathustra!

M66BHJa6Y9c l-cRiqml6QA just stay as long as you feel good and full of qi, when you become tired and begin feeling pain just stop. 20 min may seem a long time for a beginner and very painfull, i advise you to begin with 5 min, then after a month or two to double to 10 min, then again after a month or two or three to double the time again to 20 min an so on. Practice every day at about the same hour of the day. You probably will reach 1 hour time of practicing in about one or two years depending on your physical and mental strength. edit: if you are shaking that means you are too weak, there is too little yang qi in your system. if you are sweating that means you have too much yang qi which is not stable you need to pass these stages of shaking and sweating until you balance the yin and yang and until you stabilize it. when yin and yang qi are balanced and stabilized you will feel like a vibration, or a buzz in limbs and body. when you reach this stage you will be capable to stay longtime in the posture without pain. meditation in lotus or semilotus help building yang qi and to stabilize it while slow movements like taichi help mixing the yin and yang and unblocking the knots the yin qi comes from the earth through the soles of the feet good luck

about hun and po in case someone interested: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=7810&hl=

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This is the religious taoism theory which is a bit more than TCM, unfortunately there is not a book that puts everything together, you have to pick informations from many books and put them togeteher. I recommend reading - Mantak Chia's Fusion of the Five Elements - Nicole Tremblay's Tao de l'alimentation or any other book of Taoist alimentation and Daozhen user posts http://www.thetaobums.com/dao-zhen-m8508.html you have in the right side the menu Profile options>find member posts Also I recommend witch reading Journeys Out of the Body (1971) by Robert Allan Monroe where he describes sexual escapades when he consciously exit the body an performed astral sex with other living or dead people When I was 19, I was sexually abused in a dream by a beautiful dark-haired dakini (christians name these beings or daemons succubus which are females and incubus which are males) but I never complained. She only took my sexual energy and left me with a very pleasurable sensation. Even if I have a preference for blond girls, I still fall in love with girls that reminds me of that goddess. Edit: Also, it is said that if you indulge in such practices until you die, It is very probable that you will became a succubus or incubus daemon in the afterlife. Seriously Not that would be a bad thing... but you have to be warned.

I agree with you but I still think a much milder approach would be appropriate. I mean liver flushing is good but only if one have a very precise diagnostic of gallstones which can be seen on ultrasounds or some other method and there is no other method of removal but surgery. If one is healthy or have some mild symptoms of Qi stagnation I still think the liver flushing is too aggressive and too risky. http://www.whereincity.com/medical/topic/k...rticles/148.htm An alternative milder liver cleansing could be found here: http://www.mybodywisdom.net/pages/articles.html http://www.mybodywisdom.net/pages/articles_liver.html Just some side notes: The excreted 'stones' if they melt they are nothing but cholesterol. It is possible that some stones to be brownish but that also is due to bilirubin and if they melt there is nothing wrong. Someone can have 100 liver flushings and still have the same amount of 'stones' because this is directly related to the amount of oil ingested. And the color is related to the amount of biliverdin and bilirubin in their bile. The problem is with the stones that are forming already due too imbalanced alimentation - too much greasy/oily foods which may be the case for witch that already ingests big amounts of fish oil. But if you have a good drainage of the bile again there is nothing wrong, it is wrong only when the cholesterol stones stuck somewhere and solidify. http://www.scribd.com/doc/3870902/How-to-R...tones-Naturally It is just my common-sense-amateurish opinion, durkhrod chogori I have a great respect for you and what you do.

My grandfather had a brain stroke in the right hemisphere that caused him to be completely paralyzed in the left half of the body. I remember his left hand was not functional and he was keeping the hand in the position you drew, so I suppose that you lost the control of the motric nerves/centers of the hand at some point. Maybe some brain regions were touched during the practice that caused the hand posture. Spontaneous qigong is not good when you loose the control of the body, I don't want to scare you but I suggest you when that happens again to have the control of your posture and movement. Edit: Any movement/position have agonist and antagonist set of muscles and also it is possible that some agonist muscles to be overly excited by neural signals and to force the muscles to strain while the antagonist muscles to be relaxed.

offtopic of the thread: I think you will obtain nothing by doing that liver treatement. Especially if you have a good diet (no deep grease fried foods). It has nothing to do with colon - colon cleansing and liver cleansing are totally different. Just a headacke and an experience like I describe here: Liver cleansing treatement (that one of Culda Clark) means to drink a glass (or more) of olive oil. You will not produce stones but green colored cholesterol chunks which have the consistentcy of wax and will drain your gall bladder and liver biliary ducts. The cholesterol comes from the normal function of the liver which produces it and any excess is drained through biliary ducts along with the bile. The green color comes from biliverdin which is a green substance from the dead blood cells hemoglobine transformation in the liver. If your draining pipes are dirty or stucked with small stones, the stones will come out and the cholesterol will have a dark green brownish color. If you are clean will be a clear green. But if you have big stones stucked there you will have a biliary colic and you will end up in the emergency room and eventually on the surgeon table. It happened, not to me but there are plenty of stories like that on the cleansing forums. The reason the cleansing was recomended to you is because the liver is supposed to host the hun which is the heavenly soul and it is possible that the hun soul to be very strongly dominated by the po soul or animal/earth soul in your case. Which is why you have those astral experiences, because po (lung spirit) dominates hun (liver spirit). In case you have a developed hun spirit due to spiritual cultivation those experiences will vanish but I don't think will vanish because of the liver flushing but only with a longterm cultivation. I enjoy the thread too

by doing mudras you connect meridians that comes to fingertips and create circuits inside your body, activating organs or chackras... here are some tips, but you need to explore your internal feelings:

yes dopamine = desire, lust prolactine = satisfaction cortisol = stress PEA (phenethylamine) = falling in love testosterone = violence, anger estrogen = maternity adrenaline (ephedrine) = excitement, awareness of danger serotonine = relaxation, fulfillment, well being, lack of hunger oxytocine = love, compassion melatonine = awakening, lack of sleep DMT = enlightenment, visual dreams, alternate reality ...

The soul enter the embrion after 40 days from conception, this is the common belief in taoism and budhism (read it in one of Mantak Chia's books). I have a friend that have the third eye open and can see auras and chakras and organs inside the body and a lot of spiritual stuff and he literally saw when the Hun souls entered the womb of his pregnant wife at the same approximative time from conception. He could see the embrio forming inside the womb of his wife, he knew she is pregnant even before doctors confirmed. One night he wake up and saw in the bedroom darkness three light orbs that were moving in spiral motion above the womb of his wife. The three orbs were of red, yellow and blue colours and were dancing circling arround eachother until they united into a single multicolor orb which entered the womb and illuminated the embrio with the colourful light, which at that point he considered the life or the soul entered the embrio of his future son. I think he is threefold blessed by having a wife, having the third eye open and seeing the life of his son from conception.

I say very important. Qi is electricity. There is nothing out there but electricity. RPYz3iWmyLo V026kSw4XCs no wonder so many pitfalls in cultivation, just because lack of understanding. ignorance is just that lack of understanding. we are electrical machines and we function just like any robots. actually we were made to be robots.

I dont't get it, what kind of challenge is here about? You take a 40 days fast and then what? arm wrestling with sijo Moons? or how many hours / minutes / seconds one can stay in full lotus? and no one has lasted more than a few seconds? a few seconds of what? they were gazing into each other's eyes and the first one who laughed lost the battle? this is very confusing or maybe a psychic power match as here? UmEOR6a68OE

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Have you tried witch's formula? Chocolate for dopamine build-up and fish oil for the others sex hormones...

this should be put as banner on taobums forum for everybody enters here to see!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...17097&hl=en kunlun only purges the energetic paths inside the body, is not a path, is not a way, it's just a tool everyone has its own way in life

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The shaking is supposed to stop when you have clear and unstuck meridians and balanced energy. I did Kunlun for a couple of months, and I stopped shaking after two days, but that was because I practiced zhan zhuang two years previously and another two years of Hunyuan Qigong daily previously to Kunlun so I suppose I was balanced and clear enough. Anyhow I have a liver problem and I found out that practising Kunlun increased the internal heat in the liver and right kidney so I suppose this is my last issue I need to solve, and I stopped Kunlun several months ago. Do you have any suggestions about cooling the liver/kidney since my system tends to heat up? I really love the five elements maoshan zhuangs and I practiced them afterward to balance the organs, right now I take a break during summer, but I intend to begin the practice again in autumn. By the way, I saw ghosts due to Kunlun practice but not in my home, but when I slept in hotels in Chicago and Boston so I believe it was not me that I attracted them, they were already there and I was just around to see them. I believe Kunlun practice opens the Yin eye and you see what you get or you get what you see

findley, all the taoist alchemical texts are about producing the DMT inside your own body/brain. I understand you're a fan of tSoGF, I recommend you to read also Wu Zhen Pian (Understanding the Reality) and Inner teachings of Taoism by Thomas Cleary. They speak about the Inner journey of the meditation experience. If you are a truly meditator you will have those experiences because they are physiological phenomena. Ayahuasca has the same effect only that the substance is produced by a plant and ingested. Ayahuasca actually is not the active substance but it just let the body absorbs the active substance (DMT) that comes from a toad red berry and mixed in the Ayahuasca drink. Serotonin is produced by all people in the intestinal tract after the meal, more if you have a copious meal or tryptophan containing food like turkey or seaweeds. As a confirmatory sign you have plenty of serotonin is the lack of sexual desire because serotonin is antagonist to the dopamine. This is the first level of Jing filling up according to Bodri. The problem with serotonin is that never pass the blood-brain barrier unless is ionized. The ionization is realized by the bioelectrical currents of the meridians net or the magnetic field of the heart. The meditation practice produces that, buids up bioelectrical energy and serotonin levels in lower and middle dantiens. When the electrical currents run through the meridians this is the level of Qi filling up, as a confirmatory sign you don't feel the hunger. When in meditation see light that means the serotonin reached the pineal gland and begin the process of transformation into melatonin. this is the stage of Shen cultivation. Melatonin is a super-hormone that rejuvenates the body and eliminates the need of sleep - which is the level of Shen filling up according to Bodri. Then there is needed more practice, especially in the darkness to build up melatonin levels to reach the other stages of pinoline and DMT, which is why they (monks, yogis, meditators, shamans) all retired in caves or mountains, though is not necessary. In my opinion DMT just opens the Mysterious Gate to the Unknown (Wuji). Philosophically Wuji is considered nothingness when in reality there is Plentyness of unexpected phenomena. And yes all these phenomena are transitory and cyclic according to Yin-Yang patterns and evolve in time, and what we have in texts and teachings (all of them Lao Tzu, Chuang Tzu, Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed etc.) are just glimpses of the reality out-there. just my two cents

Thank you for your advices. I recently come up to some conclusions and began to practice meditation and I believe the practice have positive effects. I was just waiting to find the right answers to understand and to be prepared for next time - thank you mikaelz. I totally agree with you, Zhuo Ming-Dao about the copy of the body, I found an explanation in the taoist paradigm of the Yin soul and Yang soul or the ghost and the light body or Po and Hun. These souls copy the original physical body and they are really made of the Yin substance and Yang substance or negativity and positivity. The aim of the Taoist/Buddhist practice is to transform the Yin into Yang or darkness into light. I agree with you mikaelz that we tend to attract the like and I am working on that. As a side note about the darkness water I read in the Monroe's book "OBEs" he says that there is a dark region where he suppose is inhabited by human souls but he says that these lower astral realms can be passed over if you are not afraid and you are not observed by the others entities. He also describes he was grabbed by unseen hands when passed through the dark waters. I am just speculating that this region is the Styx waters of the ancient Greek mythology. Vajrahridaya, I read about the aliens living the 4th and 5th densities, while we are living in a lower density namely the 3rd. I think they can travel in our density level, and we can meet them in the 4th (the astral). Also I believe we are much more powerful physically than them (the greys) but they dominate us by mind power. Anyhow lucky me I was saved by a light being that I read they live in higher densities 5th and above. The Tao is weird... I am definitely curious about these mysteries but in the same time I want to fulfill my life mission here in this realm. Which is to cultivate wisdom and compassion. This is interesting: fmFMpdalteY