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Welcome and I too hope you didn't suffer to much from your stumble.

fearless acceptance

Welcome, as stated enjoy your tome here. We are friendly bunch (mostly).

Welcome and as Marblehead stated enjoy your time here.

A tremendous amount of wisdom in this thread! Thanks to one and all!

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Welcome and best wishes.

If we are lucky right path left path all lead to the mountain. Along the way a lot happens. If we are lucky and or deserving we grow both in understanding and acceptance.

Welcome and best wishes!

LOL! Edit to add: One's loss is another's gain. But is it a loss? Loss of life or end of suffering? Quite often both!

Winners get to write their history. Losers write theirs. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

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Before going to far along in tiny home investigation, I suggest exploring Recreational Vehicles. At least you can move them any time you want, more parks available, land use zoning requirements similar.

Acting as your own general contractor : Perform due diligence on all subcontractors re: insurance get a copy with yourself named as additional insured, check with local county / state for proper license (s). And vet for references! County local municipality more than likely* to require plans, site plan for setbacks, grading for drainage, etc. and likely will inspect approve or not grading. Inspections by county around here anyway: 1 : Footings 2: Framing before insulation drywall 3: Electric, plumbing & hvac inspection 4: throat inspection if masonery chimney 5: Final if all went well. The prices costs you quoted are reasonable, I priced white wood kiln dried 2x? at Lowe, Home Depot, and two local lumberyards mills scheduled delivery onto pallets and covered the wood with plastic to prevent warping (common sense). How many builder do this ? So even if they start with a discount price they have spoilage warping greater waste and disposal costs. My brother had a manufactured home constructed off site, built in a factory and trucked in to be placed on foundation. Quality was excellent, but weather wasn't a factor, no rain not to hot not too cold. Choices were somewhat limited, some but not total customizing. Much better than average on site stick built! IMHO I built a three level deck at the age of 22. No prior experience but passed Home Improvement exam got ticket Yahoo The steps were a nightmare to say the least. I talked to lumberyards, carpenters, millworks custom stair builders, no joy. There weren't the stair patterns available then as they are now, (we come along way baby!) The increased costs, in my experience resulted from changes in design or materials to improve the end result. For instance I widened the stairs from four foot wide to six feet, to accommodate a chair lift on one side whilst allowing foot traffic on the other. Y.M.M.V. As Rallis pointed out it ain't for the faint of heart, nor should it be ametuer night at the Appolo, lol. But approached properly this is one case when the governmental services and safeguards are on your side! *IIRC West Virginia (or at least parts of it) didn't require adherence to national building code except for electrical and plumbing, for private residence, may have a tough time selling it ?

No doubt. I will see things differently each and every day, until I don't. I don't know for sure but I'm hoping one day I will I look at things from both sides and I will be relieved .

Building versus buying is not for the weak of heart. There are many obstacles, frustrations and pitfalls. The reward(s) at the end of the build include getting a better than average quality home. And an invaluable education on construction principles , (human nature both your own and the contractors you employ). Being your own general contractor will often result in 30% cost savings and gray hair! Long after the frustration and blisters fade the satisfaction of a challenge well met and something real and tangible from your sweat and labor, and effort remain. I got a saying: Its a gonna cost you more than you reckon, take a heck of a lot longer than you plan or budget, but by gol its grand when you are all done. I took down and rebuilt a 4 bay gutter connected greenhouse (2 bays 30 feet wide 120 feet long and 2 bays 30 wide 80feet long. First year spent taking down almost 90 % solo, Second year putting up 50% me 45% general labor, 3% licensed plumber, 2% licensed plumber. I also built a 2 story timber frame barn 1st floor 40 x 80 2nd floor 48 x 89. Passive solar. Contracted a timber frame company to design and cut frame to my general specs. Design phase 6-9 months including final approval by me before engineer approved (stamped plans @ cost of $3,500.00 just for engineer approval). Another 9-12 months for frame fabrication by timber frame company as that was happening I was grading site, digging footings, rough in plumbing, 3 full baths first floor, 2 sink kitchen, washer and sink utility room and two separate rooms with radiant floor heating. With the help of timber framers and local labor the shell was cover with roof 5 months, (roof is structural insulated panels with dura panel roofing.) Then first floor outside walls were poured (mickey block) 15 tons of concrete (mixed at 120 pounds per time and poured into blocks) 5- 6 months. Exterior siding 1 inch by 12 inch red oak (green, cut to order) 4 months. (Over 400 pounds of wood screws used to secure exterior siding). Stairway construction talk about a challenge! I cut my own stairway for the third time in my life only slightly easier the second time, and third time knowing I had done it before... $10,000.00 worth of windows installed by two of us in two days. Master carpenter assisted by a semi skilled laborer (me). Not including my labor or land cost I have over $225,000.00 dollars invested in barn to date. Equal parts blood, sweat, and frustration add more than a few tears yields tremendous satisfaction!

-Yes, racism is a problem. -College costs or post secondary education costs are to high for average American regardless of race creed or ethnic origin. -Current tax structure regressive, favors rich, tax rates and tax expenditures matter. -We shouldn't give anything to anyone. No free lunches, discounted lunches ok. -Funding special interest groups whether perceived friend(s) or foe of our foe(s), is unacceptable. (Again no free lunches. Teach a person(s) to fish, farm, be productive should be long term goal. - Rich or poor we all require health care and it has to be paid for. Keeping the poor out of emergency rooms through preventive care reaps tremendous cost savings. -We should be an example of a peaceful productive society to promote same in other areas of the world. (Defense not offense, trust in GOD, YAWEH, ALLALH, what ever but tie your camel, pen the goats horses etc. up at night.) -All leaders are human and therefore both good and bad, history has shown that. -Waste is rampant and as technology progresses so will waste. Government, industry, or personal, waste is human nature. (My great grandparents farmed and ate almost the entire animal... pickled pigs feet, sweetbreads (thymus pancreas) ox tail soup etc. less than perfect fruit vegetables canned or cooked for household consumption.) - War is terrible and should be avoided if at all possible. (But it can't always be avoided, Japans attack on Pearl Harbor for example.) - Progressive taxes are the fairest, spend more pay more in taxes. - Cheap food has been possible only thru workers from outside the USA.

Labels don't often lead to knowledge nor understanding, but frequently to division. Us versus them. I for one defy easy definition.

working a net

Duck, duck, goose, Old McDonald had a farm...

But will it interfere? Cause I wanna be a billionaire so freaking bad...