konchog uma

there are a lot of different versions of the muscle tendon change. the original exercise which was supposedly written by bodhidharma is not extant to my knowledge. i personally like yan lei's DVD (# 2 on that page), i find it to be a good set i added some other movements from other sets to it as i practiced a good thing to read is yang jwing ming's qigong, secret of youth to get the theory and valuable info before learning a set from dvd or vids. once you read this and the root of chinese qigong (also by dr. yang) you will be able to apply what you know to the movements you see others doing. without that foundation, you're just mimicking motions, which can be worthless without the knowledge of a teacher like him good luck

i think its dangerous to start thinking "daoists are liberal" or "daoists are anarchists" because then you exclude everyone else and start to become a political group instead of a spiritual path! daoist and buddhist groups should include liberals moderates conservatives and all other parties and predilections as far as politics goes. i think politics uses the division of parties to seperate people, dividing and conquering populaces, and keeping them focused on quibbling with each other instead of uniting to solve problems. a spiritual philosophy should be as all-inclusive as it can, welcoming the contributions of each of its members regardless of political views.

thank you jetsun

right.

http://delightmakers.com/news-bleat/wild-elephants-gather-inexplicably-mourn-death-of-elephant-whisperer/

yes very much so

snowmonki, thank you for sharing the video, i appreciate it i was never saying there is no evidence that sex crimes against children happen in buddhism if anyone wanted to take a genuine approach and talk about how traditionalism and repression of desire in religious orders leads to neurosis, i would agree with them actually. its a problem. thats just not the turn this conversation took i guess

i am not implying or saying that sex crimes against children isn't a problem. in fact, i said, "im sure it happens" and acknowledge that its horrible and tragic. i am not really interested in whether or not the problem is worse in one religion or another either. catholicism, tibetan buddhism, voodoo, scientology, ...not my point at all. i am not defending my religion as twinner suggest and putting my head in the sand saying "its all an illusion it doesnt matter". thats a misunderstanding of buddhism that i'm not going to even get into, and a misunderstanding of my own point of view that im just going to let slide because i don't feel like engaging twinner on each and every one of his logical fallacies and misinterpretations of what i actually said. i am asking, basically, twinner, can you prove that you are not lying to us, misrepresenting the facts in an attempt to sensationalize this issue? i feel that the approach to the issue is somehow disingenuous, and i feel like pointing out that if twinner actually cared, he wouldnt take an "im not going to actually DO anything about it guys!" stance, he would be approaching it from a solution-oriented angle. so in my view, buddhist children were molested, are molested, and now instead of taking a stand or even the time to sign a petition to combat this happening, twinner just wants to use their suffering as a soapbox to grandstand on, saying "religion is bad, look at this!" without wanting to do anything but drum up support for his own viewpoint in order to reinforce it. basic ego. if people are really suffering, i would appreciate 1. a genuine approach to solving the problem or moving toward a solution 2. not being lied to about the facts surrounding the suffering. thats all. i find the problem worth looking into, although im not finding as much as twinner says i will find. but i find the approach to the problem mildly offensive, hence my response to the post.

i studied taiji and kungfu from a high priest in that order. pretty dark. it caused me problems to get that close to it. stuff i couldnt cleanse myself of til years later. as he said, "we make satanists look like girl scouts" i was only 17 at the time so i didn't really know better or i wouldnt have done that

maybe a non-deluded cockroach that would be nice btw watchmen was fiction

hahahahah!!! wow! how presumptuous. what non-answers! amazing my head isnt in the sand, i was actually, it seems, doing more than you to see what could be done about the situation... you seemingly just want to complain, and then when people arent like "yeah ill complain too@!" you complain about them!! hahahah worthless waste of time and it is a cop out. its actually nothing but a cop out. if youre going to say something, and then not back it up but tell people do a search on google, thats a cop out. and when people come back to you and say "i did a search and i didnt find it" and you say "well i know how this works so there" implying that i dont know how this works, thats a cop out. so thanks for nothing. i dont believe you, and i think youre falsifying your data to sensationalize the issue in accord with your agenda against religions. so thats your karma to deal with, and your lesson to learn, im done talking to you about it. i will continue to look into the issue on my own to see what can be done about it.

i didn't quote you in any subconscious attempt to say "i think youre wrong" your post just made me think! hahaha i think tao is the ultimate reconciler, that which brings all opposites together into oneness, and i just wanted to kind of share my further thoughts

most animals don't have language as complex as ours but there isn't a lot that makes humanity "special" if you ask me. just a bunch of hairless monkeys babbling on about some nonsense 99% of the time. some say we have the capacity to realize the nature of our selves in totality (intellect, language, insight, etc) and that makes the human form a 'final form' in the evolutionary sense. however i don't see why a dolphin wouldnt be able to realize its own true nature in totality, or what the difference would be if it were a final form too (or not), or even what what i just said means. so now i am the babbling monkey yes we have no bananas edit: by the infamous "some say..." i refer to mark griffin and his siddha yoga teachings which come from advaita vedanta, shaiva specifically

in the sense that there was one before it became two, wuji, right? and in the sense that the two became three, the middle of the three, or the reconciler is human beings, right? as in heaven, earth, and man?

maybe you'll be reborn as a cockroach they're all self impregnating hermaphrodites, which is the term youre looking for good luck with that

so you wrote the topic, but if we don't like its lack of verifiable factuality, we're supposed to blame buddhism because buddhism allowed children to be molested? that sounds like an awesome plan twinner im gonna get right on it cop out. the question was can you provide verification that the problem of child abuse in buddhist monasteries is worse than the situation with catholic priests? i doubt you can, even though you stated this as "fact" in the OP.

thanks for that last part sereneblue, i didn't even see that he raised the question. i appreciate it. i looked up petitions and movements of the sort that might be available for people wanting to engage in direct action via a signature or a financial donation but i found nothing. i wonder if it is so prevalent why isn't there more voice to be heard on the subject? monastic buddhism is a celibate tradition so um i don't doubt that it happens, and i would be happy to give or sign or whatever i could do from my seat here to help insure that young monks and nuns are not subjected to those crimes... but i don't really see what there is to do about it directly. hopefully someone can shed some light on this, please post if you find anything

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i may have extrapolated meaning where it didn't exist, based on twinners other posts about organized religion. But i'm not going to edit my post, as my basic points still stand. As a buddhist, i didn't feel attacked by it, but i don't think its factually accurate, and i don't think it addresses the problem in a solution oriented way, its just sort of a complaining post. i would be more interested in reading an unbiased exposition, but thats just me. all the same, its a good issue to address, so i think its good to talk about it.

anyone can be a monk if they take vows and live in a monastery. perverts, the mentally ill, people with sexual issues. you can't tell at first, and sometimes people with issues use monastery life to escape their problems. so the issue of sexual abuse speaks more or less about the nature of some humans, and not necessarily about buddhism. i think the agenda of the OP is transparent, to smear religion by point out a tiny fraction of what happens, that very worst fraction, and then imply that the sickness of humans is somehow the fault of the religion they were a part of. but thats incorrect. you can find the sexually sick, and child molesters, everywhere, across cultures and religions. of course some ordained buddhists will be sexually sick. some of any statistically significant cross section of humanity will have serious sexual issues. and if you really want to stay stuck in the falacy that buddhism is somehow causal to the effect of child molestation, why not compare the number of people it has helped, and the number of people who have attained liberation from the ceaseless cycle of craving and suffering, compare those numbers to the number of monks and nuns who have serious sexual problems. i suggest that you might find a similar number of sick people per capita to any other group of human beings, while you might find a higher percentage of people who have been helped and who have attained the realization of their personal freedom thereby. buddhism and monastic life isn't to be put on some pedestal. its just a bunch of humans trying to do the best they can. people tend to put monks on a pedestal like as if just because they took precepts and wear robes they are somehow fundamentally different than other humans, when really, the truth is that they aren't. their shit stinks just like ours, they are just spending their lives trying to refine their human natures while we are doing various things like engaging in our own daily activities, and unfairly criticizing entire institutions for the misdeeds of a small percentage of members. hmmm i too would like to see verification of the claim that buddhism is worse than catholicism, or any other spiritual path that requests celibacy of its adherents, in its incident of child abuse and other sexual-repression based crimes. i just didn't "know" that until i read it in the OP! until there is some kind of proof given, i will categorize it as scandalous gossip, and consider that twinner might have one of those "hidden" agendas against organized religion.

listening to the Bab'Aziz OST thank you SIME for introducing that movie!! it is amaaazing

holy crap never heard of penis cancer one more reason to take care of your diet! maybe the best one i've ever heard ahhaha

aw is there a food co-op or farmers market near you where you can get real meat? that stuff in stores is no good from a health or a karmic point of view! paying money to support that kind of suffering is a good thing to stop, and helping your local farmers who are raising chickens humanely is a good thing to start

yeah michael i totally agree i'm not a huge fan of lust myself, its distracting. natural, but distracting but yeah its the whole condemnation and holier-than-thou trip that makes me laugh. i can't help it, its preposterous, and clutters an otherwise awesome forum up with troll crap that doesnt help anyone except him when people post 150 responses and his ego gets its mothers milk, our attention. i wish people would just ignore him, but hes so sensational that we just have to bite! hahahah that makes me laugh too. i didn't even read his post (don't really feel i need to at this point, they've all been basically the same thus far) ah well maybe life itself will teach him something since he won't listen to the words of unworthy mortals

big fan of occam's razor, sadly not such a fan of autotuned synthpop but thanks!